Aw, I would, but I am sans computer right now! ;_;

no worries! I tend to take a horrifically long time to make art anyways and I don't want you to feel rushed or anything. I'd love to do a trade with you! Anything in particular you want me to do?

Jawsome! Do you think you could do a %100 male (no breasts) Baphomet-style rendering of my fursona? It doesn't have to be too Satanic, I just dig the pose, and I think it would look cool in your style.

Also, what would you like? I could do the lineart and color it when I have my computer all set up.

hahaha sweeeeet! I likes it! As for me, how about this beastie:

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1156535/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1631172/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3570084/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2029364/

whoopwhoop! If you have any questions, hit me up. I'm excited to do some crazy demonic goat art!

Hmm *squint* His head opens sideways? Inspired! He will be fun to pose!

One question: are the spines/tendrils hard or soft?

haha yeah, funky sideways mouth. and the tendrils are soft and wriggly. My idea was that they sort of help it sense its surroundings since it doesn't have eyes or ears.

Ooooh, good, I was hoping they were squishy. They are certainly more fun that way!

for your baphomet-y self, do you want the solve and coagula words on your arms or some other text? gonna finally get this thang goin! Hope your compy situation is working out.

That's not necessary, but you can certainly add them if you like! That would make it all the more awesome.

As for my computer situation, I just got my new lappy Friday and I just installed my tablet drivers today! I hope to have my half done, soon. I also installed a couple new art programs, but they're soooooo new and foreign to me I'll be sticking with open Canvas for a while. I'm off work for spring break, since i work for school transportation, so I should be able to finish in the next couple days. ^w^

cool, I was wanting to trade with you.... we should trade! What sorta somethings are you feeling like.... artwise... and don't think when you answer that, cause I didn't when I typed it. >.> but yeah.

keee! I'd love a trade! and hrrrrmmmmm... something dreamy. I'll have to see if I can dream up anything tonight. Maybe something with an ocean. :D

that's a great idea... I'll see if I dream anything of half interest too. then we'll see what becomes of it.

so the only thing I remember from my dream last night was getting a box of dildos in the mail and one of them was shaped like a green knee high doc marten boot. What is wrong with my brain.

hahaha, that's a good one. I dreamt of shopping in some huge warehouse, but all I could find were sewing pads (for sewing onto like, shoulders, etc) and carved wooden cats. Seems kinda useless for this. >.> Try again, or, what?

hahaha yeah... I guess the alternative is to do a bunch of drugs and draw! Or just do a regular 'ol art trade. I'm down with that. I'm still trying to figure out this whole fursona business... I ought to make a journal with all of my current characters so people have something to browse through for ideas.

lol, like so:http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/736987/
but then the trouble is keeping it all updated. XD

And whatever works. I have a new figment that isn't in there, well, not in his current form anyway - my death kitty - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5255253/ if he strikes yer fancy..

Out of all my characters, I think anyone would realize they are all very similar... At least a large portion of them. They all have their subtleties of course, but I seem to have an affinity to canines. And bats... I like their wings, mostly. Anyway, my point was, most of my characters are just different aspects of myself, different states of being, ya know? So I wouldn't worry about having one concrete fursona. It's like, how it's so much cooler to have in a religious story multiple gods, for then they can have color and shape from one another, instead of one giant omnipotent old man, right? You shouldn't trap yourself in one body, even if it's an imagined fursona, is my point. Make a few!

I mean, I have my basic two- Styx and Xyts. I've made them the root dualities of myself, schisms which are found in everyone. I wouldn't say good/evil, but light/dark, intro/extrovertism, confidence versus shyness, thinking versus acting, dreaming versus waking dreams, and so on. That began to bore me, though, when I began to feel that there is no black and white in the yin-yang, only a rainbow spectrum with a billion shades. I began to want a part of me that was sanctioned to the abstractness of infinity- so I made phasmapter. She can turn into anything, any size, matter, shape, anything. So I never draw her the same twice. Then I've got my old self, my young self. That was my first fursona, just a fox chick with mushroom horns named wyatt. She's not able to shapeshift or anything cool, her only real power is the ability to grow mushroom horns, and eat them, and have them grow again.

And of course I have characters from the story I'm writing. They'll be mostly humanish, most of them. You've probably seen the little white/purple cat, erro. he's always be trippin. =P And I like people with animal ears and tails. I find the ears just so awesome at expressing feelings. it really helps in my comic book stylins.

You should pick a number that feels sacred to you, and draw that many different creatures if you can, and see which ones call to you. I think everyone finds at least one animal that really calls to their soul, if not a few. I'm also a hippie that loves animals though, so that could just be me. I find a lot of animal inspiration in studying ancient mammals. I like to study evolution, it shows you what kind of creatures could have been, you know? Wikipedia has an immense wealth of proto-mammal info. Evolution is like, the true story of our planet, and I don't just mean organic evolution... the evolution from pure energy to atoms to matter and so on to stars and rocks and earth and eventually freak bacteria... our organic evolution is imprinted in our dna, but the inorganic evolution must be stored somewhere too.

wow ramble... sorry for spammin all up in your shiz. I was just gonna write a short response...


but then I got high...

ahahah this response is the best! It really hits home for me, especially with your mentioning of mythologies and sacred numbers and the rejection of binary dualities. That's exactly the reason I made my pantheon back in high school and it continued to evolve, and it's still evolving. I got all... jaded and fed up with furry art about a year back and had to take a break. I was having some problem with wanting to be "unique" and wanting a character that was some ultra obscure animal or combination of animals (and now that I think about it, that sounds horribly not humble and "hipstery" hahah). I don't want or need to make myself a novelty, though there are some awesome funky critters out there that I'd like to assimilate into my "totem zoo."

I really ought to return to my pantheon, since I feel like they've really been neglected. I also know I'm lacking in some areas, gotta fill in the gaps! Thanks for the insight! I need people like you to bounce my ideas off of. I also wish I had trees to smoke, no highs for me :( Death kitty is the shit! I kind of want to draw our antagonist/antihero/dark characters.

FURRY EXISTENTIALISM WTF

Yeah dude, go with it! I get fed up with furries sometimes too. I've decided recently to just draw whatever I want, and people around here don't seem to care much, it all generally falls under the furry category one way or another, with my art it seems. But it's true that this community will really love you for drawing typical shit, like most communities. But, I find there are just enough truly cool people, to keep it thriving. This is the only stage where my imagination seems free to play out, and no one even really finds anything out of place.

And there's an odd line I walk with making my characters... I want them to be novel, but still humble and ordinary too. I'd much rather put effort into a flowing scene than just focus on the character... I find so much beauty in nature these days, it's really great in art, all the time. a little tedious, yeah. I've been trying to simplify my comic characters too, because to draw something a million frames again and again... it helps to be simple. more with less is always a win.

Anyway... my dark characters. I have several dark aspects.

Xyts-http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5438357 styx's mortal enemy! is a quiet and somewhat mean person!
Death kitty(kiba) - a black cat shadow with a skull face and scythe tail, but he's styx's personal death, his dark materials style!
Apocracy-http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1974258/ - evil lumpin from my comic project, soul stealer and mind usurper. closest thing to evil.
Owlolly- http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4700629/ - deformed experiment, broken brain, likes to eat.

I guess my main antagonist is Xyts. I say it like Schitz(o), but it could be read any number of hilarious ways too. X3

forgot to finish that with

so what are your antagonist spirits like?

Sweet! My main angry dooder is Anaphylaxis. I have a bunch of little phrases I associate with it: cruel, hellbent, focused, chaos, liquid, earthly, The Devil/The Moon (Tarot), Apep, devouring the sun, poisoning the well, internal struggle.

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/2380975/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3389778/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3570084/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5388642/

The other would be Cinereous, the blob monster in that Genesis painting. Hahah my brain was getting tired, I had to go take a shower to refresh... Anyways! It's tied to laziness, depression, self deception, and mediocrity. Blobish in all aspects!

I wouldn't say Cnidrex is really dark, but it is paradoxical, and thus has some dark characteristics. For the most part, it's kind-hearted, but just confused and in awe with the universe. I like to think of it as the Tarot card The Fool. Kinda bumbly and kinda intense all at once.

http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1206210/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1445218/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3390024/
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/5388258/

Whee!

I like Cnidrex, that sort of blank slate trip-head that owlolly has too. He's not evil, but too malformed to understand at all about compassion, not killing things, and so on. he could be that retard that lovingly kills you and then eats you in confused regret, you know? That's sort of a primal, almost subprimal state I think, on my part. I made up Owlolly on DXM, cough syrup you know. That heaviness, the confusion, and the heavy trip overtones.... that's a world we can relate to.

I can relate to cinerous too, a little too much perhaps, haha. Anaphylaxis is fucking wicked too... hmm... decisions. You know, I think i feel the Cnidrex. That's the darkness I can empathize with best currently, I think.

Whatever of mine you kinda like, I can give you oodles of info and images on. Death kitty is dark in that he's death, but he is only styx's death, and they're pals. They've kinda got a good thing goin. Xyts wants styx's blue horns, because he thinks he should have had them, and had Styx be given the fire horns that he has. So, he pursues her across the universe, ever shapeshifting and trying to hunt her down. She's a pacifist and an escapist though, she evades, eludes, and hides amongst the local flora and fauna of living planets. Styx also has an electric yellow and blue energy, while Xyts has firey colors and a neon purple. Phas eats styx and others sometimes, but only to merge souls with them and then crap them out again later. That's not really evil so much as awkward.

I have lots of lesser badguys in my stories... but they're tangents of ideas. Apocracy is like a vampire or incubus, I dunno, he shows up in the girl's head, then her life, kind of posesses her now and again. kills some people... feeds on her bad thoughts, and whispers them in her ears. Cannot thrive in sunlight. grows when fed negativity.

whatever you think you'd like to draw, anyway.