Guilt Should NEVER Be On The Menu
14 years ago
"MORELS taste good in omelettes..."
One of the things I often do with my husband is go to these little concerts his old school puts on for friends and faculty. This place makes me green with jealousy every time I go, too: well-funded school, with an emphasis on arts and music. My mind-boggles: a school that doesn't hit you over the head with sports, sports, sports... One that actually encourages reading for enjoyment, learning to play an instrument, their theatre is wonderful and where being a "painter" isn't something only the "weird kids" were interested in. None of that drek I used to hear every live-long day: "you'll never make a living on your art- get a real job!"
Dang, Kani, why couldn't I have grown up in Santa Monica? *droools in a corner for a while*
I went to schools where it was considered "cost-effective in this economy" (IE: whenever their own salaries were threatened due to needing to cut the budget, they'd cut everything that makes school bearable for impoverished kids in the worst neighbourhoods), cutting ANYTHING art-related, hype up the sports (they always get more funding, somehow) and pretty much ignoring real education... or learning cool stuff like playing a guitar or a piano. Um, yeah, the exact kinds of neighbourhoods I grew up in, the exact kinds of schools we got stuck with.
Sour-grapes: only the rich kids get to have a real education. "Wrong side of the tracks", mixed-breed Indian mutts like me don't "deserve" to know more than how to read or operate machinery... when I wasn't being expected to either wait tables, get married and have a clutch of brats, go on welfare, or become a prostitute for one of the local gangs.
Anyway, this isn't about my green-eyed monster and it's love-hate relationship with money and the people who had it handed to them.
Nope, it's about something I overheard last night AFTER the concert from one of the privileged kids I'd just seen perform: "should I be a fatty and have a cookie?"
I nearly broke my neck doing a double-take: Whut? Seriously? The cookies were exquisite little miniature confections maybe an inch wide. The girl who piped this in all innocence was almost six-feet tall (5' 8" or 10", in heels), thin enough that I could put my two hands around her non-existent waist and she was eye-balling the tray of bakery goods like it might bite her instead of the other way around! She couldn't have been much older than fifteen or sixteen, and she was already talking about food like it was poison.
I almost cried.
What kind of a world are we living in when wealth is symbolized by the starveling figure of the fashion model? Where any amount of pudge, once thought to show wealth and health, is now the next worst thing to suffer than actually being poor? Looking at the star-studded world of TV and movies, I see a lot of overly-thin people with really expensive clothes, and where I grew up, a lot of very poor people with too much fat on their bodies wearing jeans and t-shirts wishing they could be the starved person onscreen while scarfing down their mac-n-cheese for the fourth time that week because it was all they could afford. Cheap food, if you want a lot of it to feed your family, is often the worst-quality food you can get, loaded with preservatives and high-fructose corn-syrup. This is stuff I wouldn't suggest anyone should eat, yet it's everywhere, it's what I can afford, and it's making me, and everyone else who has to buy it, fat...
I wanted to SAY something. I really did. But I'm a short, fat, woman, with the build of a peasant: broad shouldered, hefty arms, thick muscle under all of it... and I had a loaded, 7-inch paper plate covered with wee slices of bread, vegetables or cheese (one had 2" pieces of rare steak!), a couple of those tiny cookies she was considering and a whole whopping load of... guilt.
Guilt. Over FOOD.
All kinds of little scenarios whizzed through my brain like a time-lapse video: FLASH! I say something about her being too thin, FLASH! I joke that one cookie won't kill her- but not eating will, FLASH! I take a cookie and eat it, right in front of her, with a malicious grin... Then, I hit on what I should have said: "Decide- have a cookie, or not, but don't associate food with guilt. As soon as you feed yourself on guilt, you're setting yourself up for a life of misery and self-hatred. Just... don't."
But, I was silent, feeling like I always do in those kinds of situations: awkward, unlovely, utterly stupid... and fat.
I'll be blunt. I'm a fat chick. I have jowls, a double chin and a "lap-flap". I baby-powder my rolls so I won't get maddeningly-itchy yeast-infections in there. I'm 5' 3" if I stand up really straight and I weigh-in at approximately 210 lbs on a good day. I don't overeat, don't eat out a lot- once a week is our "get out of the house and be a couple"- I don't use sugar at all and, though I admit a fondness for caramel and nuts, most of the candy we buy is for my husband,
kanis. If I could convince him, my snack of choice would be beef-jerky. Hard to convince a vegetarian to let me eat dead animal, but I ate those pieces of micro-steak and loved 'em with no guilt about that whatsoever.
True, I could certainly exercise more and I've been doing that- going on bike-rides with my equally out-of-shape hubby that leave me dripping and breathless while he complains that he's not even broken a sweat. Makes me rage that a guy with no muscle-tone that I've been able to find, the guy with the classic computer-geek build, can beat me, the person who used to ride four miles to work every day on a bike. Dammit. We go rock-scrambling/climbing when we go camping, and for walks after dinner.
Now, this isn't an apologia about my weight. I know the fat is not healthy, and that I run the usual risks of diabetes, heart-problems, high-blood-pressure and so on. It's also true that I don't like my shape very much, what a surprise. No, this is about being healthy and having to live in a world that lives in denial: we're obese, as a culture, yet our world is built to cater to the skinny.
Go to a mall if you want to see this in action: most of them only sell clothes up to a size 16... petite. All of the mannequins look creepily underfed and impossibly stretched in height, none of the styles marked as "plus-size" (18 to 24W) ever fit right, nor are they often even attractive. Now, look at the people in this hypothetical mall- I bet they are pudgy, spilling over their pants, waddling along in clothing that barely fits them at all, never mind fitting right, and ask yourself: "If these folks are the norm, why aren't the stores selling stuff they can actually WEAR?"
Good question.
I mean, we see ads on TV, in magazines, on billboards and in the stores themselves and what do they show? People who's appearance is artificially-enhanced with Photoshop or old-school airbrushing, and the models are underweight to begin with. We see a bare 5% of the human population who are "gifted" with this look, and we get inundated with their faces and bodies all trying to sell us on the idea that WE should look like that, too. Seeing this laid bare, so to speak, is it any wonder anorexia and bulimia have become two of the top mental-illnesses among teens, right behind depression?
In so many ways, each of us is being told that we're ugly if we aren't an emaciated, six foot stick with perfect teeth, thick manes of hair and nails hard as well... nails. The clothing I can buy is almost exclusively stretch or baggy men's jeans and big T-shirts. But, if I want to pay more than I should out of my meager budget, I can get clothes by companies like Liz Claiborne or Holy Clothing and get either the uptight office-matron or the Earth-Mother look.. Weee.
My tastes in fashion very much do not reflect the "standard": I like dreamy Renaissance stuff, Gothic/Industrial prettiness, hard-edged cyber-punk, gear-and-goggle-happy Steam-punk and gritty street-punk sorts of clothing. My palette of colours has a lot of black in it, plus some purple, chartreuse, even a little pink. I like textures and patterns: paisley, brocades, velvets and details like bead-work and appliques... Unless you commission it special, you're going to have the same trouble I do: hardly anyone makes this stuff for real people. They prefer to make it for heroin-addicted rock-stars with less than ten percent body fat.
Not even the scene that is this culture's refuge for the unhappy and misunderstood wants us fatties. Well, there's the Furry, cosplay, or sci-fi fandoms- they have no trouble accepting the larger folk among us- it's even a stereotype: if you like sci-fi or anime, you're a geek. If you're a geek, you're probably fat, socially-awkward and living in your parent's basement. Like all stereotypes, it's true for some folks, very much not true for most of the rest.
The Plus Size market, what there is of it, is "saturated" with the kind of clothing a person who wants to disappear might wear. It's social camouflage: beiges, pastels, earth-tones, blah, wishy-washy floral prints. It's wallpaper for the body. Well, what if I want pretty as well as serviceable, well-fitting, durable clothing that someone on a budget can actually afford? I can get serviceable, but well-fitting seems to be impossible, as is comfortable. Durable isn't even on the charts: most mass-manufactured garments have an effective life-time of two years, tops, for anyone, no matter how gentle and careful you are with the item, or three, if you only wear it a few times a month. As for pretty or prices, get a second mortgage if you want a decent wardrobe.
Or, make your own, like I'm currently doing.
Who's heard of the site, "People of Walmart"? More particularly, the "Wal-Martians"? Ever notice, that, while a lot of the photos can be hilarious (I'm not immune to the "point-and-laugh" type of humour, sorry. I AM ashamed of it, if it helps), that the people in the pics tend to be obese? Not just pudgy, like me, not just a little extra fat from too much Holiday feasting, but morbidly, it's-amazing-that-they-can-walk obese. Um, why are we laughing at fat people? When did this become cool enough to have whole web-sites devoted to it?
Ostensibly, the photo blog is meant to poke fun at what they're wearing (believe me, some of the choices these folks have made are enough to make your hair go white). But I notice a common, and distressing, theme: in more than half the cases, the clothes they're wearing would have been fine if they FIT. To me, this suggests that these men and women, if they're buying their clothing at Wallyworld, either don't know the first thing about how to properly size and fit themselves, or they're buying the largest size they can find and simply making that do because they have little choice due to their size and/or budgets. I know Walmart sells some Plus-Size stuff- I've hunted through their racks often enough- most of it is hideously ugly, and the few pieces I've actually liked were still too small or just built too weirdly to be comfortable.
Now, as far as "fat-chicks" go, I'm actually not that big. By the standards the most common clothing manufacturers use, I range from a size 18 to a 20, the middle of the Plus-Size range, even near the bottom with a few companies. Yet, I can't tell you how many times I've gone into a store looking for a pair of pants, say, and, coming across a style I'd love to wear... only to find it doesn't come in my size. I'll ask the staff about it and I'll get the inevitable "oh, we don't carry them over a size 16...", accompanied by that pitying/gloating look I effing despise...
When I do find something that might fit... it does, sort of. By sort of, I mean that I can get into the garment and comfortably close the fly (pants, remember?), but then, I discover two things: the crotch is too high and the waist is too wide. Result? Let's just say that you shouldn't expect to be able to bend over or even sit down without being afraid your pants will end up round your ankles. The same kind of problems crop up in tops and dresses: they all accommodate our hips and bellies, even back-width, but totally forget things like busts and upper arms. Always, and I mean always, the shirt is too tight across my chest, the bust-point is set for perky, skinny-people boobs and arm-holes are either too low, too big, or even too small, making the upper sleeve too tight. The designers seem to believe that we have no waists or curves, either- everything is built on either the A-line or a square.
I'm an hour-glass figure, thank you very much!
It's as if the off-the-rack fashion companies have never dealt with a real body before, instead trying to size-up styles from a 10 into a 20, which never works. It inevitably adds in distortions that end up making a garment nearly unwearable. This could be another reason why A-lines and squares are so "popular" in the Plus-Size world: it's easier to grade the clothing, with fewer distortions, and simpler patterns mean less wasted fabric (smaller, fiddly pieces of well-fit garments actually end up using more material because of the odd shapes. Less wasted fabric is another reason why garment-companies tend to make their wares in smaller sizes, maybe they're gambling that there will be enough customers to buy the lines, despite the demographics that say the population is larger). Instead of actually addressing the distortions at all, they just use the simplest of pattern blocks. Have these people never heard of the "Princess-line"? It's flattering to the most body-types, and it's easy to size with few problems (but, because of the curves, it might be fall into the "fiddly" category).
Anyway, enough about clothes, except for one last thing: I got into fashion-design because of these and other problems and my wardrobe is slowly becoming made up of more and more of my own, unique designs, made by me, for me- now, I'm building a business on it.
You'd think that getting more exercise would make sense, right? That it would help me reduce my middle to where I'd prefer it to be. I like riding my bike, for example. Problem is, no bike (as far as I know) is rated to carry much more than 200 lbs. I ride my bike anyway, even though I'm going through rear inner-tubes like crazy (three in the last three months alone- finally got the heaviest-grade of inner-tube I could find- the sort used by cross-country cyclists for thorn and glass resistance). Forget finding a seat wide enough be comfortable- joy, just what I've always wanted, a super-wedgie from my own bike. As well, I always eventually end up with a seat that tilts downward more and more over time because my m/ass stresses the metal brackets to the point where they bend, leaving me to continuously reposition myself on the seat.
How about those plastic patio chairs everyone seems to have? Rated for a max of... wait for it... 200-250lbs. Folding camp-chairs? 225 lbs. Step-stools? 250-300 lbs- at least I'm safe there. We can't even have cheap furniture we can use! Not to mention airline seats or the "get-narrower-so-they-can-cram-more-people-in-every-time-they-renovate-the-bus-line" seats...
Really, I exercise when I can, even if it isn't often enough: I go for walks, ride my bike, sometimes go camping or even do yoga, hiking, free-climbing (more like rock scrambling, but it apparently counts- it's just not as extreme). I don't eat crappy McD's or other take out more than a few times a year (honestly, McD's never). I'm not overly fond of potato-chips, cookies or candy, but I do like ice-cream. Nope. My sin is that I'm sitting in a chair 10-12 hours a day working on art, sewing or crafting jewelry. It's just not enough exercise to burn off the few calories I actually take in (roughly 1500 to 2000 a day- well within normal range).
But, I'm healthy, my heart is good, my blood-pressure excellent (last time it was tested, it was 106 over 70), I'm not pre-diabetic, my blood-sugar is normal, cholesterol is a bit high, but not threatening (it runs in my family, though), my asthma is well under control, I'm trying to work in more intense exercise, I'm almost entirely vegetarian (I still love meat, I just eat very little of it, now), and...
I'm a fat chick.
The world had better wake up and deal with it, because there are more of us, than there are of you- "you" meaning the skinny artificial people we're telling ourselves to look like.
I'm sure many of you have seen this particular graffito: the phrase "No Fat Chicks" spray-painted on alley walls, bus-shelters, or wherever tags are found. The mockery is the part I can't stomach. Other than Muslims and Hispanics, right now, we are pretty much the only demographic that can be openly mocked with seeming impunity. Frankly, it could be any racial/ethnic/religious/ideological group being set up as scape-goat for the "witch-hunts"- it was blacks, once, then Jews, then Communists, now, it's Muslims... and fat people. Repulsive practice that seriously needs to end. It's "cool" to make fat jokes. Comedians make whole careers out of it (the Frantic's "You People Are Fat" sketch comes to mind). Sit-coms have whole episodes rife with it (Drew Carey and Mimi), or worse, entire series make bank on it (the Biggest Loser or that new sitcom where the whole family is obese and the father is in over-eater's anonymous, or anything with Rosie O'Donnell).
It disgusts me that people who often could stand to lose a few pounds themselves will make the rudest comments behind our backs, without even trying to hide the fact that we can easily hear them. They'll say things like "you've had a few too many... burgers! Naah, the whole cow!" or, "Hey! Jabba the Hutt's in town!", or, in the interests of being "helpful" to us poor, benighted, ignorant fatties "have you thought about a diet or exercise?", to which I usually answer, "why yes, in fact, I have- I like rock-climbing and hiking regularly. Have you thought about some exercise yourself, like exercising your discretion by not being such a jerk and pointing out the bloody fucking obvious?"
It's like they think we don't know how big we are or what we look like Yes, I have a mirror, thank you, and no, it doesn't break when I look at myself in it. I've been wanting to use this line for a while, now: "The blubber only insulates me from the neck down... fat might be clogging my arteries, but not my ears- in other words, I can hear you, you moron!"
For all the "helpful" twits or even the unabashed assholes out there, I want to fix something for you: No Fat-heads" (replacing chicks with head).
Ever notice that guys can have a belly, but, as soon as a woman puts on a few pounds everyone goes batshit? All of the stars I can think of who seem to make as much of a career over their weight as they do their acting/singing/serial-marriages and drug-habits are women (Oprah, Kirstie Ally, Queen Latifah, etc. Though Latifah has been proving to everyone that she's beautiful as well as large- you GO , girl!). Yet, pudgy male actors don't get nearly the same amount of flack (Drew Carey, Wilford Brimly, Lawrence Fishburn, and so on).
Here's a question: if the character Mimi from the Drew Carey Show had been a slim woman with no other changes, yet still keeping the same attitude, personality and "fashion sense", would everyone still like her? She dresses outrageously because, since she isn't conventionally pretty, wearing the sartorial equivalent of a technocolour yawn will have to suffice to get noticed. I doubt anyone would still find her appealing if she'd been thin: she's loud, pushy, obnoxious, and rude- possibly as compensation for a life of loneliness, fat-jokes and empty evenings alone with a tub of cheesecake ice-cream, no doubt. I suspect that the acerbic and bitter comedy Mimi is so good at is the internal compensation for being fat and thus, "unlovely". TV characters are broad, like that- pardon the pun. Take off the fat and leave behind the same Mimi with her eye-searing outfits, cartoonish makeup and "take no shit from stupid people", in-your-face attitude and I can't imagine many folks still liking her...
All of this was in my mind last night at the little reception after the concert, and I couldn't say any of it. I couldn't say what I really wanted to say to the six-foot stick girl: Guilt should never be on the menu, and EAT A DAMNED SANDWICH!
Dang, Kani, why couldn't I have grown up in Santa Monica? *droools in a corner for a while*
I went to schools where it was considered "cost-effective in this economy" (IE: whenever their own salaries were threatened due to needing to cut the budget, they'd cut everything that makes school bearable for impoverished kids in the worst neighbourhoods), cutting ANYTHING art-related, hype up the sports (they always get more funding, somehow) and pretty much ignoring real education... or learning cool stuff like playing a guitar or a piano. Um, yeah, the exact kinds of neighbourhoods I grew up in, the exact kinds of schools we got stuck with.
Sour-grapes: only the rich kids get to have a real education. "Wrong side of the tracks", mixed-breed Indian mutts like me don't "deserve" to know more than how to read or operate machinery... when I wasn't being expected to either wait tables, get married and have a clutch of brats, go on welfare, or become a prostitute for one of the local gangs.
Anyway, this isn't about my green-eyed monster and it's love-hate relationship with money and the people who had it handed to them.
Nope, it's about something I overheard last night AFTER the concert from one of the privileged kids I'd just seen perform: "should I be a fatty and have a cookie?"
I nearly broke my neck doing a double-take: Whut? Seriously? The cookies were exquisite little miniature confections maybe an inch wide. The girl who piped this in all innocence was almost six-feet tall (5' 8" or 10", in heels), thin enough that I could put my two hands around her non-existent waist and she was eye-balling the tray of bakery goods like it might bite her instead of the other way around! She couldn't have been much older than fifteen or sixteen, and she was already talking about food like it was poison.
I almost cried.
What kind of a world are we living in when wealth is symbolized by the starveling figure of the fashion model? Where any amount of pudge, once thought to show wealth and health, is now the next worst thing to suffer than actually being poor? Looking at the star-studded world of TV and movies, I see a lot of overly-thin people with really expensive clothes, and where I grew up, a lot of very poor people with too much fat on their bodies wearing jeans and t-shirts wishing they could be the starved person onscreen while scarfing down their mac-n-cheese for the fourth time that week because it was all they could afford. Cheap food, if you want a lot of it to feed your family, is often the worst-quality food you can get, loaded with preservatives and high-fructose corn-syrup. This is stuff I wouldn't suggest anyone should eat, yet it's everywhere, it's what I can afford, and it's making me, and everyone else who has to buy it, fat...
I wanted to SAY something. I really did. But I'm a short, fat, woman, with the build of a peasant: broad shouldered, hefty arms, thick muscle under all of it... and I had a loaded, 7-inch paper plate covered with wee slices of bread, vegetables or cheese (one had 2" pieces of rare steak!), a couple of those tiny cookies she was considering and a whole whopping load of... guilt.
Guilt. Over FOOD.
All kinds of little scenarios whizzed through my brain like a time-lapse video: FLASH! I say something about her being too thin, FLASH! I joke that one cookie won't kill her- but not eating will, FLASH! I take a cookie and eat it, right in front of her, with a malicious grin... Then, I hit on what I should have said: "Decide- have a cookie, or not, but don't associate food with guilt. As soon as you feed yourself on guilt, you're setting yourself up for a life of misery and self-hatred. Just... don't."
But, I was silent, feeling like I always do in those kinds of situations: awkward, unlovely, utterly stupid... and fat.
I'll be blunt. I'm a fat chick. I have jowls, a double chin and a "lap-flap". I baby-powder my rolls so I won't get maddeningly-itchy yeast-infections in there. I'm 5' 3" if I stand up really straight and I weigh-in at approximately 210 lbs on a good day. I don't overeat, don't eat out a lot- once a week is our "get out of the house and be a couple"- I don't use sugar at all and, though I admit a fondness for caramel and nuts, most of the candy we buy is for my husband,
kanis. If I could convince him, my snack of choice would be beef-jerky. Hard to convince a vegetarian to let me eat dead animal, but I ate those pieces of micro-steak and loved 'em with no guilt about that whatsoever. True, I could certainly exercise more and I've been doing that- going on bike-rides with my equally out-of-shape hubby that leave me dripping and breathless while he complains that he's not even broken a sweat. Makes me rage that a guy with no muscle-tone that I've been able to find, the guy with the classic computer-geek build, can beat me, the person who used to ride four miles to work every day on a bike. Dammit. We go rock-scrambling/climbing when we go camping, and for walks after dinner.
Now, this isn't an apologia about my weight. I know the fat is not healthy, and that I run the usual risks of diabetes, heart-problems, high-blood-pressure and so on. It's also true that I don't like my shape very much, what a surprise. No, this is about being healthy and having to live in a world that lives in denial: we're obese, as a culture, yet our world is built to cater to the skinny.
Go to a mall if you want to see this in action: most of them only sell clothes up to a size 16... petite. All of the mannequins look creepily underfed and impossibly stretched in height, none of the styles marked as "plus-size" (18 to 24W) ever fit right, nor are they often even attractive. Now, look at the people in this hypothetical mall- I bet they are pudgy, spilling over their pants, waddling along in clothing that barely fits them at all, never mind fitting right, and ask yourself: "If these folks are the norm, why aren't the stores selling stuff they can actually WEAR?"
Good question.
I mean, we see ads on TV, in magazines, on billboards and in the stores themselves and what do they show? People who's appearance is artificially-enhanced with Photoshop or old-school airbrushing, and the models are underweight to begin with. We see a bare 5% of the human population who are "gifted" with this look, and we get inundated with their faces and bodies all trying to sell us on the idea that WE should look like that, too. Seeing this laid bare, so to speak, is it any wonder anorexia and bulimia have become two of the top mental-illnesses among teens, right behind depression?
In so many ways, each of us is being told that we're ugly if we aren't an emaciated, six foot stick with perfect teeth, thick manes of hair and nails hard as well... nails. The clothing I can buy is almost exclusively stretch or baggy men's jeans and big T-shirts. But, if I want to pay more than I should out of my meager budget, I can get clothes by companies like Liz Claiborne or Holy Clothing and get either the uptight office-matron or the Earth-Mother look.. Weee.
My tastes in fashion very much do not reflect the "standard": I like dreamy Renaissance stuff, Gothic/Industrial prettiness, hard-edged cyber-punk, gear-and-goggle-happy Steam-punk and gritty street-punk sorts of clothing. My palette of colours has a lot of black in it, plus some purple, chartreuse, even a little pink. I like textures and patterns: paisley, brocades, velvets and details like bead-work and appliques... Unless you commission it special, you're going to have the same trouble I do: hardly anyone makes this stuff for real people. They prefer to make it for heroin-addicted rock-stars with less than ten percent body fat.
Not even the scene that is this culture's refuge for the unhappy and misunderstood wants us fatties. Well, there's the Furry, cosplay, or sci-fi fandoms- they have no trouble accepting the larger folk among us- it's even a stereotype: if you like sci-fi or anime, you're a geek. If you're a geek, you're probably fat, socially-awkward and living in your parent's basement. Like all stereotypes, it's true for some folks, very much not true for most of the rest.
The Plus Size market, what there is of it, is "saturated" with the kind of clothing a person who wants to disappear might wear. It's social camouflage: beiges, pastels, earth-tones, blah, wishy-washy floral prints. It's wallpaper for the body. Well, what if I want pretty as well as serviceable, well-fitting, durable clothing that someone on a budget can actually afford? I can get serviceable, but well-fitting seems to be impossible, as is comfortable. Durable isn't even on the charts: most mass-manufactured garments have an effective life-time of two years, tops, for anyone, no matter how gentle and careful you are with the item, or three, if you only wear it a few times a month. As for pretty or prices, get a second mortgage if you want a decent wardrobe.
Or, make your own, like I'm currently doing.
Who's heard of the site, "People of Walmart"? More particularly, the "Wal-Martians"? Ever notice, that, while a lot of the photos can be hilarious (I'm not immune to the "point-and-laugh" type of humour, sorry. I AM ashamed of it, if it helps), that the people in the pics tend to be obese? Not just pudgy, like me, not just a little extra fat from too much Holiday feasting, but morbidly, it's-amazing-that-they-can-walk obese. Um, why are we laughing at fat people? When did this become cool enough to have whole web-sites devoted to it?
Ostensibly, the photo blog is meant to poke fun at what they're wearing (believe me, some of the choices these folks have made are enough to make your hair go white). But I notice a common, and distressing, theme: in more than half the cases, the clothes they're wearing would have been fine if they FIT. To me, this suggests that these men and women, if they're buying their clothing at Wallyworld, either don't know the first thing about how to properly size and fit themselves, or they're buying the largest size they can find and simply making that do because they have little choice due to their size and/or budgets. I know Walmart sells some Plus-Size stuff- I've hunted through their racks often enough- most of it is hideously ugly, and the few pieces I've actually liked were still too small or just built too weirdly to be comfortable.
Now, as far as "fat-chicks" go, I'm actually not that big. By the standards the most common clothing manufacturers use, I range from a size 18 to a 20, the middle of the Plus-Size range, even near the bottom with a few companies. Yet, I can't tell you how many times I've gone into a store looking for a pair of pants, say, and, coming across a style I'd love to wear... only to find it doesn't come in my size. I'll ask the staff about it and I'll get the inevitable "oh, we don't carry them over a size 16...", accompanied by that pitying/gloating look I effing despise...
When I do find something that might fit... it does, sort of. By sort of, I mean that I can get into the garment and comfortably close the fly (pants, remember?), but then, I discover two things: the crotch is too high and the waist is too wide. Result? Let's just say that you shouldn't expect to be able to bend over or even sit down without being afraid your pants will end up round your ankles. The same kind of problems crop up in tops and dresses: they all accommodate our hips and bellies, even back-width, but totally forget things like busts and upper arms. Always, and I mean always, the shirt is too tight across my chest, the bust-point is set for perky, skinny-people boobs and arm-holes are either too low, too big, or even too small, making the upper sleeve too tight. The designers seem to believe that we have no waists or curves, either- everything is built on either the A-line or a square.
I'm an hour-glass figure, thank you very much!
It's as if the off-the-rack fashion companies have never dealt with a real body before, instead trying to size-up styles from a 10 into a 20, which never works. It inevitably adds in distortions that end up making a garment nearly unwearable. This could be another reason why A-lines and squares are so "popular" in the Plus-Size world: it's easier to grade the clothing, with fewer distortions, and simpler patterns mean less wasted fabric (smaller, fiddly pieces of well-fit garments actually end up using more material because of the odd shapes. Less wasted fabric is another reason why garment-companies tend to make their wares in smaller sizes, maybe they're gambling that there will be enough customers to buy the lines, despite the demographics that say the population is larger). Instead of actually addressing the distortions at all, they just use the simplest of pattern blocks. Have these people never heard of the "Princess-line"? It's flattering to the most body-types, and it's easy to size with few problems (but, because of the curves, it might be fall into the "fiddly" category).
Anyway, enough about clothes, except for one last thing: I got into fashion-design because of these and other problems and my wardrobe is slowly becoming made up of more and more of my own, unique designs, made by me, for me- now, I'm building a business on it.
You'd think that getting more exercise would make sense, right? That it would help me reduce my middle to where I'd prefer it to be. I like riding my bike, for example. Problem is, no bike (as far as I know) is rated to carry much more than 200 lbs. I ride my bike anyway, even though I'm going through rear inner-tubes like crazy (three in the last three months alone- finally got the heaviest-grade of inner-tube I could find- the sort used by cross-country cyclists for thorn and glass resistance). Forget finding a seat wide enough be comfortable- joy, just what I've always wanted, a super-wedgie from my own bike. As well, I always eventually end up with a seat that tilts downward more and more over time because my m/ass stresses the metal brackets to the point where they bend, leaving me to continuously reposition myself on the seat.
How about those plastic patio chairs everyone seems to have? Rated for a max of... wait for it... 200-250lbs. Folding camp-chairs? 225 lbs. Step-stools? 250-300 lbs- at least I'm safe there. We can't even have cheap furniture we can use! Not to mention airline seats or the "get-narrower-so-they-can-cram-more-people-in-every-time-they-renovate-the-bus-line" seats...
Really, I exercise when I can, even if it isn't often enough: I go for walks, ride my bike, sometimes go camping or even do yoga, hiking, free-climbing (more like rock scrambling, but it apparently counts- it's just not as extreme). I don't eat crappy McD's or other take out more than a few times a year (honestly, McD's never). I'm not overly fond of potato-chips, cookies or candy, but I do like ice-cream. Nope. My sin is that I'm sitting in a chair 10-12 hours a day working on art, sewing or crafting jewelry. It's just not enough exercise to burn off the few calories I actually take in (roughly 1500 to 2000 a day- well within normal range).
But, I'm healthy, my heart is good, my blood-pressure excellent (last time it was tested, it was 106 over 70), I'm not pre-diabetic, my blood-sugar is normal, cholesterol is a bit high, but not threatening (it runs in my family, though), my asthma is well under control, I'm trying to work in more intense exercise, I'm almost entirely vegetarian (I still love meat, I just eat very little of it, now), and...
I'm a fat chick.
The world had better wake up and deal with it, because there are more of us, than there are of you- "you" meaning the skinny artificial people we're telling ourselves to look like.
I'm sure many of you have seen this particular graffito: the phrase "No Fat Chicks" spray-painted on alley walls, bus-shelters, or wherever tags are found. The mockery is the part I can't stomach. Other than Muslims and Hispanics, right now, we are pretty much the only demographic that can be openly mocked with seeming impunity. Frankly, it could be any racial/ethnic/religious/ideological group being set up as scape-goat for the "witch-hunts"- it was blacks, once, then Jews, then Communists, now, it's Muslims... and fat people. Repulsive practice that seriously needs to end. It's "cool" to make fat jokes. Comedians make whole careers out of it (the Frantic's "You People Are Fat" sketch comes to mind). Sit-coms have whole episodes rife with it (Drew Carey and Mimi), or worse, entire series make bank on it (the Biggest Loser or that new sitcom where the whole family is obese and the father is in over-eater's anonymous, or anything with Rosie O'Donnell).
It disgusts me that people who often could stand to lose a few pounds themselves will make the rudest comments behind our backs, without even trying to hide the fact that we can easily hear them. They'll say things like "you've had a few too many... burgers! Naah, the whole cow!" or, "Hey! Jabba the Hutt's in town!", or, in the interests of being "helpful" to us poor, benighted, ignorant fatties "have you thought about a diet or exercise?", to which I usually answer, "why yes, in fact, I have- I like rock-climbing and hiking regularly. Have you thought about some exercise yourself, like exercising your discretion by not being such a jerk and pointing out the bloody fucking obvious?"
It's like they think we don't know how big we are or what we look like Yes, I have a mirror, thank you, and no, it doesn't break when I look at myself in it. I've been wanting to use this line for a while, now: "The blubber only insulates me from the neck down... fat might be clogging my arteries, but not my ears- in other words, I can hear you, you moron!"
For all the "helpful" twits or even the unabashed assholes out there, I want to fix something for you: No Fat-heads" (replacing chicks with head).
Ever notice that guys can have a belly, but, as soon as a woman puts on a few pounds everyone goes batshit? All of the stars I can think of who seem to make as much of a career over their weight as they do their acting/singing/serial-marriages and drug-habits are women (Oprah, Kirstie Ally, Queen Latifah, etc. Though Latifah has been proving to everyone that she's beautiful as well as large- you GO , girl!). Yet, pudgy male actors don't get nearly the same amount of flack (Drew Carey, Wilford Brimly, Lawrence Fishburn, and so on).
Here's a question: if the character Mimi from the Drew Carey Show had been a slim woman with no other changes, yet still keeping the same attitude, personality and "fashion sense", would everyone still like her? She dresses outrageously because, since she isn't conventionally pretty, wearing the sartorial equivalent of a technocolour yawn will have to suffice to get noticed. I doubt anyone would still find her appealing if she'd been thin: she's loud, pushy, obnoxious, and rude- possibly as compensation for a life of loneliness, fat-jokes and empty evenings alone with a tub of cheesecake ice-cream, no doubt. I suspect that the acerbic and bitter comedy Mimi is so good at is the internal compensation for being fat and thus, "unlovely". TV characters are broad, like that- pardon the pun. Take off the fat and leave behind the same Mimi with her eye-searing outfits, cartoonish makeup and "take no shit from stupid people", in-your-face attitude and I can't imagine many folks still liking her...
All of this was in my mind last night at the little reception after the concert, and I couldn't say any of it. I couldn't say what I really wanted to say to the six-foot stick girl: Guilt should never be on the menu, and EAT A DAMNED SANDWICH!
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I think you misunderstood what I wrote, hon. In our current world of too much crappy food and too little healthy food, it's the stuff that's actually healthy for you that is the most expensive and thus, unaffordable to people like those I grew up with. It's folks like those I grew up with who getting fat: on starchy, high sugar foods that are cheap to make in quantity and so can be sold for pennies. Families struggling to make ends meet will often buy the cheapest stuff they can find, even though they would rather feed their kids healthy veggies and raw fruit, they sometimes just can't afford it. I know we couldn't when I was growing up, and food prices have sky-rocketed all over the planet.
Fashions change, and this one will eventually go away. But for now, it's frustrating to folks like me who, despite doing what they can to be healthy, fashion still dictates whether or not I get to be seen as attractive and whether or not I will get to have clothing that is more than just a sack to cover up the unmentionables. I harp on the clothing as just the most obvious example of how being a real human being means to be looked down on in many small, mostly insignificant if taken individually, but feels like so much more when you add them all up.
So yes, peer-pressure, on a culture-wide scale, but at the base of that peer-pressure are also the things I've mentioned in my journal. Nothing is one-sided- there are always multiple sides to any story, and I mentioned some of them, not even touching on many others that I could have that still connect. If I'd gone on with as many different sides to this thing that I could have, this journal would be too huge for anyone to want to read- it would be a sociological thesis, then.
i've never really thought about it -- what makes something popular, and therefore subject to peer pressure.. i'm not sure it's wealth so much as fame .. wealth just happens to come with fame
Wheres that like button?
Though, when you think about it, pain is never actually trivial- anything that makes so many people feel worthless is a "non-trivial" event, as it were.
So true, its not trivial in that aspect. It's a true pity we live with these stereotypes.
Well, thank you very much.
What didn't help, when I was growing up, was not wanting to clear my plate because I was genuinely full but getting told that I had to. (Granted, my folks had lived through the Second World War, and money was tight, so food was valuable.) Couldn't I just have had less on my plate next time? Or, going to a school where it was expected to receive, serve, eat and clean up after two courses, in fifteen minutes or less?
I am a Big Guy. I stand about 6'4" in my stockinged hindclaws and I have a 52-inch middle. (Down from 56 inches, when I was out in Cali. with you two, Murrah honey, so I'm pretty pleased there.) But then, my chest is about 48 inches, most of which is bone, so I'm never going to be rail-thin, even though I might wish I were.
I've had my self-image kicked and ground into the dirt for as long as I can remember. I was on my first diet in grade school. So yes, I do need to take care what, and how much, I eat. Carbs are pretty much right out, though I give in to sin occasionally and have a small portion of fries, or make a bag of potato crisps last an entire week, or something like that. I haven't eaten chocolate, beyond some really high cocoa content stuff, for years (not least because I don't like it too much these days).
I'm big. I'm overweight. I have come to accept it, even if loving it is out of the question for now.
*nuzzles an opal dragoness, a rounded REAL GIRL*
I didn't start putting on the pounds until I was past puberty and into my twenties- depression and eating little but ramen noodles for twenty years of grinding poverty. Like you, I'm stocky, only much shorter. LOL
I accept that I'm over weight, but I don't have to like it, either. I figure if I've been able to accept that I was abused by the people I should most trust, that they didn't always understand what they were doing, which almost made it worse in some ways, that I'll never be "beautiful" by this culture's viewpoint, that it was not only impossible, but worth nothing, in the end, then I can learn to accept this. Well, one thing at a time, I guess.
Fat is real problem, nowadays, though- it's a serious health-issue because the rates of obesity have sky-rocketed since additives like high-fructose corn syrup were added to foods in the seventies. I mean that shit is in fucking EVERYTHING from soda pop to canned beans! It's in kid's cereal, soup, bread, even peanut butter!
Then there's the more sedentary lifestyles of kids today: they sit for up to eight hours a day in a school, then sit for another two or three a day in front of a television or computer monitor, don't go outside as much as we used to, eat more garbage food because the advertising makes it look delicious, and people buy it because the junk is cheap and easy to prepare. People are too lazy to cook their own meals, anymore- there were some kids who have never really seen a real fruit or vegetable! Everything they eat is processed and comes out of a box, a vending-machine or a can...
I go on about things like size-acceptance because our world really is living in denial about our collective mass. Adverts still show slim, healthy people, all eating or drinking the very garbage that's making people fat.
Now, add in the whole issues of self-esteem (or lack of it), child-hood abuse, depression, compulsive eating disorders and even genetic factors (our bodies are built to store fats as a survival against famine. Some people are "better" at it than others, and gaining is easy, losing is difficult because the body doesn't want to let it go), and slap some poor schmuck with obesity where he can try and use his willpower all he wants but he'll still take forever to take off the extra pounds.
Now drop him/her into a society that treats you like you're not worth interacting with like a real person, the little snotty comments from people behind your back, dealing with a world built for folks half your size, despairing of ever finding clothes that fit, hell, finding work (I've been finding out about that "lovely" little wrinkle of a fatty's life), being told that we're less of a human being just because we're fat... It's far worse for women, unfortunately- guys don't seem to get as much flack for being big. They're called "distinguished" while we get called "slags".
No, we're not more concerned with appearance these days, it's just that now that "concern" is making millions of lives miserable, leaving myriads of worthwhile, good people outside of life in so many ways... Suicide is high among obese teens...
You've met me...you have seen how obese I am. Yes, i am morbidly obese. Yes some of it has to do with a bad poor diet, and not getting out as much as I should...
SOME of it....
Here's something that pisses me off. From the moment i was dropped from the womb, I was a big girl 9 pounds 14 ounces....growing up i was a fat kid. high school, i was a fat kid...[and ugly] college, fat girl..but wait...right before college, I had an operation...
now at the time, I weighed about 180...[I'd give ANYTHING to be 180 again] within 6 months after the operation I gained 100 pounds O,O WTF
i could barely eat, everything I ate made me sick. And since I couldn't throw up. [a defensive thing. My father would beat me within an inch of my life if i threw up as a child] It came out...well..the other way...
So going out to eat? umm No. eating a Salad ended with the same results...when to the dr, He said i was a unintentional bulimic. What?! Ohh...kay....they Why the Fuck wasn't i losing a pound??
That was....almost 20 years ago.
Now I'd give Anything to be 280 again. :( now i look in the mirror and I cry. you have no idea...[well perhaps you do]
Thanks to being a state ward child, I now have nearly no teeth [one of my front one's broke the other day...sooo i'm a one snaggle tooth kitty..more or less...still depressed over that]
I'm fatter than fat. I'm Scared to go to the gym we have, or even to walk around outside..[seriously this places scares me to death]
And...when I Do get the balls up to go to the gym, both the guys and girls...all nice and trim, GLARE at me! WTF?! How Dare I with my fat ass sully their precious gym!
so why is it, when i Try to make myself better, I'm ridiculed for it? Ridiculed for being fat, and even more so for trying to do something about it? Why the double standard?
Not to mention, when I eat healthy, and am active even more so than a lot of slender people..i gain..More weight! WTF?!
so yeah....i'm a fatty, but it's not All because of bad diet and lack of exersise...
my point is, some people are that way because of medical reasons.
Also i really need to say this. if it wasn't for
Thank you for letting me rant.
oh btw, we share the same style of clothes ^___^
I just can't find any that fit me, and i'm not talented enough to make my own. But no matter, I still wear what I want to ^_^
I'm gonna be working on some patterns for larger sizes. Counter-culture clothing is yummy.
I agree with many things, but i do disagree with a few points.
You sound a bit like it is societys's fault that people are overweighted - that might be true to a certain degree - but after all you, it is everyone own decision what and how much he/she eats. Every adult person that is overweight, ACTIVLY chooses to be overweighted. (well, there might be a few with rare disseases and what not) Its not society that makes you fat, its the stuff you eat, and the lack of excercises.
I hear alot of overweight people saying things like 'I might be fat, but i like what i am'. Everytime someone says them i look into their eyes and ask them 'Is that true, or are you just trying to justify your lacking willpower to change yourself?'. It pisses most people off beyong imagination, but i had 2 friends which it helped. They lost alot of weight and are living a much better life now.
Your body is your tool to interact with the world and other people. Do you really want to have a rusty tool?
Also, i dont think the cloth maufacturers are 'not producing for real people'. They want to sell their stuff. If they would earn more cash by producing other kinds of clothes, they would do it already.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back. Willpower is a very vague concept, and if just "will" were enough there would be no smokers, no drug addicts, etc etc etc.
Plagh. I'm not gonna say anything further because there is no arguing with politically correct folks who blame fat kids fat on genetics while they double fist cheeseburgers and drink Mt Dew.
I got a good laugh out of being called politically correct though, thanks for that.
Believe me comrade, I argue with folks ALL the bloody time. I just know politically correct, health apologizers when I see them and truth be told I already know full well that I would have more luck breaking down a brick wall by smashing my head into it over a prolonged period of time than I would gaining a common understanding with you. We're of radically different philosophies on this subject. It's better for us both if we rub shoulders and keep walking.
Maybe you'd win more arguments if you did some reading and knew what you were talking about rather than go instantly into internet toughguy mode and start flinging insults.
I do plenty of reading brother. I also do plenty of living and plenty of people watching. Genetics is maybe 1/4th of the equation in body weight. As I said: I myself am an example folks have pointed to when it comes to genetics and heavy weight. There is some small amount of truth to that, but fact of the matter is OBESITY isn't genetic. Being fat, lazy, and prone to eating poor substances loaded with sugar and high fructose corn syrup isn't something that's written into your DNA. Genetics give us certain predispositions, give us certain physical structures and influence our metabolism, but that's only one part of a larger puzzle.
You're acting like it's the only part, and I take great insult from that.
Now, I'll put out some of my own opinions (back-up later)- first, I don't "apologize" for people being fat. I certainly don't coddle them. I do understand that not everyone is the same, nor will all react the same to stimuli- some will break where others will just shrug the problem off, others will end up living with a recurring, slowly growing worse, illness where nothing they do seems to work in getting themselves back to a weight they want. I do know that there are a number of psychological factors, environment, personal background, parenting, bad habits, low self-esteem, a history of abuse and so on that go into someone struggling with their weight.
Yes, will-power is involved in getting healthy, as is exercise and eating right, but if the mind is damaged in the sense of psychology (and it often is- mental illness is much more common that you might realize, and no, it's not "overdiagnosed"- the patterns of our society seem to breed it, sadly) then all the willpower in the world will do bupkiss if they keep "falling off the wagon"- that's what serial dieting is all about. Then there's the anorexia/bulimia spectrum of illnesses: the latter half can make you fat, at least until you go through the anorexic phase where you won't keep anything down- think of some forms of overeating like OCD: the person knows binging is bad for them, they don't want to binge, the guilt is horrible and debilitating, but they can't stop themselves. For some, it is that bad. For others, like me- a long depression and then a number of joint injuries were the major contributors to my being overweight. It is difficult to exercise when you've torn a tendon in your knee and broken an ankle the year earlier. More are gaining weight because of Polycystic ovarian syndrome (a lady's illness) or because of steroidal medications- people with asthma often struggle with their weight. Why? Because many asthma medications are strong cortico-steroids. For yet others, it's their way of self-medicating: the choice is between being heart-breakingly rejected and ice cream that you know is bad for you- if you were given the choice, which would you choose? Most "sane" people would choose the ice-cream (this is not an intellectual choice, after all, and most people would react with emotion to a situation like this, not the intellect)- at least the ice-cream tastes good and won't judge you. Well, all it takes is one traumatic emotional break for a lot of people to set up a pattern of living that will result in a person being fat.
Don't discount the abuse-factor- it's so prevalent in our society, I'm not surprised most of us are fat: far too many people have horrible childhoods that make me weep (and you know a little about mine) and they'll "medicate" themselves with the secure-feeling of food. A "get your pleasures wherever you can" kind of thing. Some folks just aren't made for cigarettes, booze or drugs. There is no one cause for obesity, period- it is a combination of many factors- yes, you both are right- you're just coming at the problem from two different directions.
Oh, and then there's this:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/release.....0419162308.htm
http://www.newsweek.com/2009/09/09/.....-obesity.html# I link to this article because it goes into the stigma and day-to-day abuse overweight people have to deal with. Not getting hired? It might be because you're fat.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obesity Pay particular attention to the paragraphs regarding causes, such as infectious agents, medications, genetics, mental and physical illnesses and social status.
http://www.cdc.gov/Features/Obesity/
Just thought tossing in some backup for Froggy would be nice, since you were attacking the notion so harshly.
For every study done that links weight to genetics, there is some fat guy who now has a body to die for, and I promise you it's not because he got a stem cell injection that wrote all the "fat genes" out of his system. It's because he bit the bullet, threw out all the crap food and ran every day.
Genetics, environment, cultural value, peer pressure, dietary habit and sedentary life style all play a part in weight issues. That makes genetics one slice of a six slice pie. I'd prefer it be treated like that.
I already said in my post that there might be exceptions - people with serius illness or something. Im not expert on that. But simply stating that 'most' of the overweight people are what they are becuase of their genes sounds a bit like a excuse to me.
But as i said - im no expert. If you have any facts that proove that, feel free to send them to me.
But i guess i know what you mean. I've got the same problem. I gain weight at a scary speed. If i keep eating fatty food without doing excercises, i gain around 4 Kg peer week, mostly on my belly. I used to be pretty overweight too, for a long time, i know how it feels. I used to say 'i've got heavy bones!' and then sit down and start munching.
Willpower IS a vague concept, right. But still the only one that works long-time. If you do not really want to do ANYTHING you can, you shouldnt even bother trying. Do it right, or dont do it at all. You cant go 'a bit' on diet. It just doesnt work.
Just telling someone to man up is a terrible, terrible thing to do. You need to learn how to overcome urges. "Do it right or don't do it at all" is the equivalent of strapping someone into a parachute, kicking them out of a plane and yelling, "Better learn how to use that thing, or you're gonna go splat, and if you do it's your fault!"
So, what do you suggestion doing instead then? if its terrible, what would be better?
Think how horrible it would be feel to be trying as hard as you knew how to lose weight, and then someone tells you that you're failing because you don't have enough will. Pretty damaging, not very encouraging, and if you want to help people shaming them is not the way to do. I do appreciate you're not acting like that pissy little squirt in the other comments, so I'll answer at length.
A lot of how we process what we eat varies according to genetics and possibly not the biggest factors. If you're eating McDonald's every day, sure, duh. But a lot of people can eat a perfectly ordinary or even starvation diet and still be overweight. Obviously diet and exercise have a factor, but they're not the only factors. People with lactose intolerance, for example, can't will themselves to digest milk. Research into the genetics is still a fairly new science, try the CDC page to start though. http://www.cdc.gov/Features/Obesity/
Stress is another factor most people leave out of diet/exercise. Your body will tend to pack on pounds when you're stressed no matter what you eat, because ancestral humans experiencing stress were in situations where food was usually limited (drought, migration, etc).
Also consider it's much easier to gain weight than to lose it.
The thing about will is you have to learn how to modify your behavior. Blaming someone for not having sufficient willpower without their being taught how to use it is completely unfair. It is possible to bootstrap yourself but it's not something that comes naturally to most people. Look up cognitive behavior therapy, it's the most reasonable approach I've seen and expereinced to teaching someone to examine their behaviors, sort of step outside themselves, and figure out how to change.
You do make several good points though. First off, yes, it does ALWAYS suck when you're doing what you can to the best of your ability to make your life better and some asshole comes and stomps on ya. That really goes for every walk of life too, not just weight loss. Economy being how it is, jobs aren't abundant and things are going from bad to worse with a lot of folks.. same principle when some jerk says you don't have a job because you aren't looking. People do need to have encouragement. They need to have a team that will empower them and challenge them to be better than themselves. Hearing the words "man the **** up" from a friend who is overwatching and coaching you as you exercise and is trying to get those additional five reps from you is entirely different than when a stranger says it.
Metabolism and ability to digest? I agree with you there as well. However, I think it's very fair to say the overwhelming majority of obese people in this nation don't suffer those two issues. No one gets to weighing 300-400lbs on a starvation diet. I certainly cannot will my bear like metabolism to turn into the hyper metabolism of the poster way down low. Still, I have to work with what I have and not make excuses for my weight based on a few handicaps.
I hadn't considered stress a weight gaining factor. Actually, isn't it normally a weight loss factor? Stress causes the body to enter a fight response which tenses the nerves and muscles, strengthens them to an extent. One would think that stress would cause you to actually consume more energy.
"The thing about will is you have to learn how to modify your behavior. Blaming someone for not having sufficient willpower without their being taught how to use it is completely unfair."
A-****ing-men to that.
See.. if you had said these things to me, we'd be having a much different conversation. Sorry we got off on the wrong foot. In my experience it is INCREDIBLY difficult to find someone who chalks obesity up to genetics (oversimplification as you yourself called it) and who wasn't in turn an entirely ignorant, obese or heavy weight politically correct individual themselves. I apologize for acting out of my own ignorant presumptions.
Sometimes, it turns out to be a seemingly small thing that makes us keep the fat: it's a defense mechanism for many. Food is also security, feelings of home, protection and mother- when you feel alone and unwanted, your mind, wanting to protect you from the painful feelings, might distract you with thoughts of some delicious treat that you have good associations about... Only one of a myriad ways our own bodies and psychology can "betray" us.
But, for me, I just need to get up off my ass more often. LOL
As to genetics: see the links I posted to another commenter above.
i dont blame anyone for it, either.. denying pleasure is not something our brains do well
Yes, I do understand that there is some element of choice, but those choices don't come until AFTER the bad habits our parents gave us are programmed in, our peers reinforce in us (who had their own bad habits given to them by their parents), and by the similar reinforcement we get as impressionable kids and teens from movies, TV, the magazines, the "word on the street" as to what's "cool" and so on. I don't "blame" society entirely, but it is responsible for so much of it, it's hard to separate where personal choice starts and where society's influence ends. This societal problem in North America didn't just spring up over night like some magical mushroom, nor was it ever a planned, maliciously purposeful thing- it's one of many sources of choices adults made for their children- in some cases, often without even knowing they were harming them.
Children don't usually make their own choices in our society- their parents decide what they eat, when and how much, and their food choices will be contingent on what the family can afford. And if you have a parent who grew up in poverty or hard times they might ask that you clean your plate (like mine and myriad others did), even if you're full and don't want any more. They abhor waste, right? Not a big deal, right? Really? But, what about the people who take it further, telling their kids that they're ungrateful if they don't eat everything on their plate, using starving children in whatever remote location for justification for making you eat more than you're comfortable with? Now they're stacking on guilt for others, relating it to the food you need to live, on top of forcing them to eat too much (through browbeating and parental anger- mine used fists, but hey, it was my choice to eat it or not, right? Right?). How is this a child's choice or their "bad habits" making them fat? Consider, also the parent who allows their child to be demanding and gives them whatever they might want, whether a good meal or junk food out of love for their child and simple doting upon them, or who are so indifferent that they just don't give a fuck what their kid eats as long as they don't pester them, or they're can't afford to buy their children more than starches and sugars- because that's the cheapest food you can get in bulk and what many families have little choice but to do to feed everyone, or worse, they themselves don't know what a proper diet is and eat the same junk they feed their kids out of plain old-fashioned ignorance?
Or, taking it outside the home, bullying at school, or at the local hang-outs, where kids reinforce their own self-images sometimes by shitting on someone else's. Now, add on this child's growing years being filled with just this sort of thing, or with some other dysfunctional problem that they might eat to relieve- their first episodes of "self-medicating", hmm? I didn't stuff myself when I was a kid- we literally didn't have enough food to do that, but I know all three of us kids would sneak food from time to time. Toss in TV commercials for fast-food, sugary cereals, soda pop, candy and potato chips- it's already been proven that TV ads do affect people, especially children, in their "choices". If the commercials didn't do their jobs, the companies wouldn't be using them for advertising. So, now our child has parents telling him/her that s/he's ungrateful, his/her peers are saying they're ugly, and all the other stuff they see everyday (but don't yet understand is a fiction) is telling them that these other people are RIGHT: they are worthless, they are ugly, they are unemployable and stupid, pathetic and even ungrateful. Now, continue this program for over a decade. Do you honestly think a kid is going to make good choices so easily after that? Most of us still think like we did when we were teens well into our twenties! Human psychology is about building patterns of behaviour that help you survive, and, if that pattern is somehow broken through abuse, trauma, genetics, etc, it's less about what you choose to "eat" so much as about what you choose that hurts less.
As many different approaches and causes as there are people, and they ALL end up in the same place: overweight kids who become overweight adults, with all the attendant self-esteem problems, health-issues and so on.
It's not just the excuses we have to deal with or the results of our own poor choices- we deal with the rudeness of other people, the multitudinous iniquities and injustices of a world built for only the smallest among us, dealing with being told that I'm not as "good" or as employable, or as pretty, or what have you, than someone thinner. If it were just my choice to be fat, then why the fuck would I choose to be treated that way and live a life of over-fed misery that some of keep eating to try and feel better about? Why would a child, who, through no fault of their own is too large, "choose" to be subjected to that kind of thing?
Seriously, how is it NOT society's fault?
Do people really not understand how the mind so often works against itself when it's been hurt too badly? Do people really not get that our whole society is dysfunctional and rife with mental problems caused by the very products, habits and trinkets we use to make our lives happier? I could go on about a whole generation living through horrific wars, withered by privation, riddled with the worries the media uses to keep us afraid and unthinking about problems here at home, but that would make for a much longer post. I have lived through four decades of this crud, I'm an observant person, I even have a small amount of education, and it just seems so obvious to me, that many of the things we supposedly "choose" aren't really our choice at all, but the left-over pains, habits and unhealed hurts of previous generations that have been passed down to us to deal with because they can't carry them anymore.
As for people lying to themselves about whether they truly accept their shape, I'll reply with this: I can honestly say that I accept that I am fat. In no way does this mean that I like it, however. The two are not the same.
As for the fashion-companies being willing to create clothing for larger frames, I never said there were no companies that would make plus-sizes. I said that the ones that bothered to (mostly the cheapest lines of clothing, like the stuff Wal-mart sells) don't seem to know how to make clothing that fits right. Other than some specialty companies formed just for the purpose, most of the clothing I'm talking about are off-the-rack, cheaply-made things that you can get at JC Penny, Target, Wal-mart, Big 4, or sports/work-wear places, and yes they are sold to the larger-bodied set to make a buck. But they don't fit well, they fall apart within months, in some cases, and the selection sux bawls. And they're making billions by selling us these crappy clothes because we don't have any other choice, unless we were willing and able to spend $400 for one outfit. Most of us can't do that. I can make my own clothing, when I have the spare time. Not many others can do that, either. So, we're left with the two choices: off-the-rack and fir like crap, or specialty places that charge an arm and a leg so we can have the privilege of looking nice for once.
Sure, there's "lots" of plus size clothing out there, if I want to wear brown, beige, pastels, horrid floral prints, everything on an A-line, or a square. There are a lot of of things I could wear, if I didn't mind looking either like my grandmother or someone's particularly tacky couch from the 70's. I did mention this problem in the journal. Seriously, have you ever actually looked at clothing other than what you might personally wear? In short, big, baggy, fucking SHAPELESS crap that hangs on you like a tent, has no colour, fun details or shaping to accentuate the good points we still have in our figures. It's bad enough that I feel ugly, and that I'm often made to feel that way by the things I see and hear around me, why the ever living FUCK should I wear ugly clothing on top of that?
I notice this stuff because I want to make it for a living, and it baffles me that a major company like Joe Boxer or Cache Creek (who make styles I actually like) can't make a pair of pants that fits a real female to save their life!
The kind of clothing I would like to wear is what could be termed "Haute Couture", If the Gothic/Victorian/Steampunk stuff could be termed that. Counter-culture clothing is still mostly made for the toothpicks (Hot Topic's Torrid notwithstanding). Stuff that has more fitting to it than simply hanging a big bag over my body. Plus size "fashion" has a lot of "hide it away" styles, but very little "let's play up these good things for you".
I suggest that you read some of the other responses to this thread- they might also help to disabuse you of the notion that "you're fat because it's all your fault" and the idea that it's a flaw in someone's character, not a possible illness.
I hope I've made my point.
I really dont want to sound picky or something - but i wrote "Every adult person that is overweight...". I never mentioned Children. I DO know that kids dont have much choice what they eat, and how much. Its usualy the fault of their parents.
Just as a little sidenote, my mother always told me: Its not whats on the plate that makes someone fat - its the 2nd plate, the desert, the 3'o'clock tea-and-cake, the midnight snack and so on.
But, as soon as someone is adult - and not living with his parents anymore - he should be able to decide what and how much he eats. And yes, there might be behavier pattern... but isnt that a bit simple? I mean, my mother washed my cloths for almost 18 years, but i still didnt expected her to show up at my flat and do it for me when i moved out.
And yes, our enviroment and our society is influenting us every day. Maybe they are forcing some people to become overweighted. But honestly, what do you expect then? Mr. Tom Society shows up in your room and puts you on a diet and starts to train for a marathon with you? It might be other peoples Fault of what you are, and there are many things and people who can influent you, but theres only one single person on this planet that can CHANGE you.
I do know that its not easy at all, and most people - including me - need someone who helps them. I went though the same.
Aceept what you are is a good first step. The next would be to find out what you WANT to be. Set clear goals for yourself. Something like 'i want to loose 7 pounts 'till August 1st.' Not some wishy-washy 'i want to loose some weight in the next time'.
You mentioned that you work quite alot. Ofcourse that could be a hindrance for excercises. But why dont you try to stand instead of sitting on a chair? Where you have to take a step or two instead of just turning your chair. Or get one of those large sitting balls (and a helmet too ^^ ).
Well, i admit that i have no idea about the entire cloth stuff. But my guess is that the build of overweight people is kinda different. While a regular weight human usualy have more or less the same shape, thick people differ quite alot. Some have a belly, broad hip, thick thigs. etc. Just my thought.
But then again, im not a women. Cloths are so.... mreh to me. I never really thought about them. Also i rarely try out those things before i buy them.
So im giving that point back to you and surrender here - i dont have any arguments for that kind of discussion.
Also, sorry if you cant understand what im typing - its really late here, and all those foreign words a spinning around in my head, and its getting harder and harder to form a proper english sentence : P Goodnight for now!
As to clothing, being a male, your body type isn't quite as variable as a female's is, so fitting-problems might not come up as often. Also, there are companies who make a point of creating large-male specific clothing for tall guys as well as hefty ones, and they appeared long before the stuff for us larger ladies. They also run into the same kind of trouble as the lady's clothing makers: if they try to make a "plus size" pattern by grading up a pattern starting too many steps below the size they want to make, they run into similar distortion problems as what happens with women's clothing.
Your mother was right about what makes you fat, but it's only one factor, one side of the problem. What everyone, including you, is forgetting is that being fat is not just one cause, it's a whole group of causes, slightly different combinations from one person to the next.
To say that all it takes is willpower means very little to someone who has a compulsive disorder, for example, or who gained weight because of the medication they have to take to keep from killing themselves from depression, or who had a sever injury to a critical joint and literally couldn't do their usual activities without a lot of pain (as with me- I had the depression, too). Yes, there are a large number of people who just need to get off their butts and stop eating garbage. But, for every lazy-ass slacker who doesn't care about themselves, there is one who wants to change, and has to fight their own psychology in order to do it.
If your friends are happier since they're skinnier then all the more power to them. I also agree with you that diet and exercise play a MUCH larger role in keeping weight down than people these days want to admit.. because it's easier to say "It's all genetics" than it is for them to say "I'm fat and need to change." So I'm in your corner as far as that goes.
There are always other elements though. Murrah points out a few of them: Dietary habits are established by parents first. If your parents give you nothing but junk food and sugar from way early on then a young child's obesity is VERY much on the parent's shoulders. Then you've got these gaunt, skeletal ****ers who look like extras from Schindler's List whose primary motivation for their unhealthy lifestyle is peer pressure and living up to a shallow beauty standard forced upon us by clothing designers (the whole mega-thin image very much has its origins in our very selfish fashion industry)
My body is indeed a tool to interact with others. My interactions are often laced with suspicion and hostility, so I think having the waist size, facial features, body language and clothing set I have does the job perfectly.
Let the scrawny bitches be scrawny bitches. They're miserable, vain, pathetic excuses for human life who have to justify their continued existence by being able to play their ribs like a freaking xylophone. They'll know no real pleasure in life aside from cocaine and heroin, they'll die before they're fifty and when the nuclear winter comes and everyone is freezing and starving death, we "plus size" (IE ****ing fat @$$) people will be able to get around just fine because we'll have a body that actually generates and retains its own bloody body heat.
I'm 250lbs myself. I've not weighed less than 200lbs in a decade. Physiologically I can't weigh less than 180. I too have that stocky, north man peasant-worker build (the build of a proper Saxon marauder!!) but the 50 I have? That comes from my food and drink, loaded with sugars and fats and high fructose corn syrup. I could lose it if I wanted, if I actually put forth months of effort and ran and swam and did the full house of aerobics and stopped drinking so much soda. But that's my pleasure in life.
Don't feel guilty. You're fat. So ****ing what? As long as you move, as long as your blood pressure is fine and you're in good health, you can be fat. Those scrawny spit ****s, as I said, have this wonderful tendency to die right about their middle age.
Take that as vindication for the way you live.
-Joints will erode faster
-Back problem
-Diabetus
-Other stuff, I guess
My suggestion for someone in your case: speed walking. For the diet, don't really need to change what you eat, for now. Just try to spread your meals on 4 or 5 times a day. Avoid over eating the hours before bed. I'm no expert, but as of what I've read in some articles when I was Googling.
But who I'm kidding, I'm guilty as well... of having a fast metabolism. I burn a lot of calorie by just breathing. *flails arms* X3
I didn't do any exercises this winter and I went from 145 lbs to 155 lbs. I know, I'm still right spot on healthy weight. I still want to exercises, though. Why? Do have a heart and muscles in great shapes. To have more energy left by the end of the day. And also... to have sexy bulging abs. <3~ I'm close to go to the gym. But the winter is wearing off and I can start again to use GPS watch and heart rate monitor. It counts the calories I'm burning, it's a sweet gadget. XD;
Good luck!
... I'm a poor swimmer, though. I feel more confortable with a complete diving gear. XD;
Like many things in life, the military is what you make of it. You can have fun in the military and do all sorts of whacky things. I for one want to become HALO jump qualified.
My goal for the next little bit? Lose ten pounds by the end of May (I've already lost three). Then try for another ten by the end of July, and so on.
I fully understand the long-term health-problems related to being overweight: this is WHY I'm doing what I can to lose what I can as soon as I can (in a healthy way). I'm in almost all of the increased threat categories for developing diabetes: I'm Native, I'm over 40, I'm overweight, and it runs in my family through direct ancestors (my mother and grandmother). I monitor my weight and things like my blood-sugar fairly often, going in for check-ups every year and doing a fasting/glucose test to make sure I'm not becoming pre-diabetic. I already have arthritis in most of my joints from a hard life of work and physical abuse. I have back problems and migraines caused by my neck being out of alignment (car accident and a heavy body landing on my head in the mosh-pit at a Ministry concert),. I'm doing what I know works to relive my joints while exercising the muscles to help protect them better. I take glucosamine and condroitin for my joints- that shit WORKS, too- I've cut my need for painkillers by more than two-thirds in the last year, I can walk without pain (where I couldn't before), I can stand for longer, and I don';t need an effing cane anymore. I avoid sugar and heavy salt. I eat more veggies than carbs, only a little meat once or twice a week. Believe me, I'm not pigging out on double patty cheese-burgers or super-sized fries. I don't even like that kind of food (sushi and sea-food are my sin). I do probably eat too much cheese, though... LOL
I won't jog- bad for the joints. But speed-walking is something I'm working up to. Maybe next year, I'll be able to run a marathon, like I've been wanting to. The hot weather is on the way and our apartment has a pool...
We eat twice a day- spreading meals out to 4 or five times a day will only invite us to overeat, since the caloric equivalents of two meals divided down to four or five will look ridiculously small. As it is, we eat maybe 1500 calories a day- normal, to lower than normal for the average person. Naaah, just cutting meal-size, and upping the physical activity, period.
I'm working on cutting back on the portions slowly and we're both adding in more and more physical activity to our day, even if it cuts into our working day a bit.
Anyway, yeah. It's definitely time we got out of this whole media image crap and just started living like we want to... Stop being sheep and get a mind of your OWN, people!!!
All these celebrity gossip mags, fashion shows, advertising, all telling people they need to go and hand all their money to the so-called "beauty" industry. Pfft!
Their idea of beauty is about half as attractive to me as a stick insect! (And scrawnier than one too, lol).
Did you hear that folks? That look that you're paying a small fortune to acquire is NOT REALLY ATTRACTIVE!!! There, I said it. Someone had to eventually!
I only go for natural women. Gimme an old-style hippiechick over a plastic barbie doll any day
Normally, I'd have a LOT to rant about on this subject, but I'm saving it all up for now so I can discharge it at a safe location, like in the middle of the Nevada desert or on the moon!
oh and in regards to the intro of your journal: I go to an art school as well ^^ We do have sports, but its not forced. Our school focuses mostly on the arts. we have an amazing theater/music department, and our visual artists are just amazing. Let alone the teachers! Our arts teachers sacrifice so much for their students all the time; it's really astonishing to see teachers actually care for their students like these ones do (especially since my middle school teachers could care less if someone was being mauled by a robot shark in the next room).
Would you mind if I saved this journal to my comp so I can read it again?
And your school, it wouldn't be Crossroads would it? Just wondering. *chuckle*
The things people will put themselves through to look like what they've been conditioned to believe is attractive is ridiculous. Accept your body. Love it, with all of it's pros and cons, it's beauties and it's faults. You want to lose some weight? Then fine, do that- but avoid the fad diets and silly exercise equipment that costs a bundle and only targets a limited number of muscle-groups. Go for a walk, climb a wall, ride a bike, go swimming, instead. DO regular work in the yard- simply raking leaves will give you a good starting workout.
*is looking forward to rock-climbing next week.* Got us some good climbing-shoes- we're gonna go up those walls like frickin' mountain goats. Yes, a fat chick goes rock-climbing. Hee.
and I agree!! I've always wanted to tone more than lose weight and I enjoy my foods too much to ever go on a diet for more than a day and a half (never tried, but that's my estimate as to how long I'd last) or to starve myself...ever. And I love when you have those spring cleaning moods and you do yard work all weekend and you're all sore and stuff the next day because its actual hard work ^^ My mom and I try to ride our bikes everynow and then. Even though we used to ride it to get some icecream at Coldstone, we still rode there and back.
and I've never been actual rock climbing. Only the fake plastic mountain with the multi-colored tumors sprouting off of it. How is it? Do you have to use harnesses?
mountain goats are cute and fluffy!!!
my mom and I used to go to Archery tournaments all the time but we stopped because her ex was a Pick with a capital D. We're gonna start up again soon though now that he's not in the picture ^^