you already know this but totally agree with this.
*slowclap*

All I gotta say is cuntbois and dickgirls aren't interchangeable with transgenders. They aren't the same thing all the time.

Transgendered people "correct" their body image problems with surgery, to make them more like the gender they'd like to be. Cuntbois and Dickgirls are BORN as cuntbois and dickgirls. Most of the time.

That makes them fundamentally different, so your point is kinda moot... unless everyone who ever made a dickgirl/cuntboy intended for them to be transgenders.

no, My point still stands.I probably did not point it out as well as I should have.But yeah, it's one thing is the chr is not trans, but if they are it is asinine, and I have seen people do it.

Ah, well that is true. Don't call it a dickgirl/cuntboy unless it IS one. Transgenders aren't dickgirls/cuntboys.

Gotcha. =)

Some are though.

I agree

I 100% agree with this. I hate when people refer to transgender characters as cuntboys or dickgirls.

i agree completely though i have noticed quite a few people that are mtf refere to themselves as shemales.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f311XTtqPgc

I agree with .
Pretty much all characters defined as cuntboy or dickgirls I know where born like that (or made like that by bizarre circumstances, but that is mostly for porn's sake).

Either way, it's not really common to denominate FTMs or MTFs like that.

eh honestly i dont see how the two can be confused x.x;

Some transgender people openly accept the words dickgirl and cuntboy and use them as ways to define themselves. I personally do not find the term cuntboy offensive and occasionally call myself one since, I'm a boy with a cunt. My biggest issue is that the word cunt is just an ugly word but, pussyboy isn't any better. I know of transgirls who call themselves shemales.

The person who created their character can call it whatever they want since it is THEIR character. The only thing that irks me is when people say all FtMs are cuntboys or vice versa. Same with MtFs and dickgirls. People apply their own labels, it is that simple. If I choose to label myself a cuntboy, that is a personal choice and a label I choose to accept myself.

Not all transpeople are the same. What one person chooses to label themselves, another may not.

and now, I am going to nitpick your words to make them less offensive.
1) .It is a big decision to be trans, and it says and carries a lot about someone.
"Nature chooses who will be transgender; individuals don't choose this." -Mercedes Ruehl
Being trans is just as much as a 'decision' as being gay/bi/straight/cis-/etc.

2)A transgendered person is not defined by their genitalia,they are trying to make the transition to the body they feel they belong in.An ftm is not a cuntboy, an ftm is a MAN.likewise for mtf.
Once again, a matter of personal preference. Some FtMs ARE cuntboys and some MtFs ARE dickgirls. However, not ALL FtMs are cuntboys and not ALL MtFs are dickgirls.

3) Drawing attention to the genitals like that goes against the grain of trans IMO.If this is someone trying to be a man or woman even pre or post SRS then why would they bother making a distinction that says nothing about them as a person, correct me if I am wrong, but part of being trans is being properly recognized.
We are not trying, we ARE men and women. Being properly recognized, as you said before, has nothing to do with genitals. So a cuntboy is still recognized as male and a dickgirl is still recognized as female. You just contradicted yourself in a way.

4) Also seriously,it sounds retarded.It makes about as much sense to call a transgendered person a cuntboy or a dickgirl as it would to call a cysgendered person a vaginagirl or a penisman. :/
Not really. It is an assumption that a girl has a vagina and a man has a penis. Not always a correct one but, that is the general thought. Thus, stating a boy has a cunt or that a girl has a dick, is going against the general knowledge and stating a fact. This boy has a cunt and that girl has a dick.

Not trying to come off as an asshole but, not every transperson has the same feelings towards the words, etc. Just stating my opinion, etc. etc.

nothing wrong with that, it's good to see other points to this.and yeah not every trans if going to feel the same way about it.

as for stating it a a fact.I am sure there are far better ways to go about it.and again, is it really necessary to do so?especially in that manner?Stating a fact is one thing, but wearing it on the sleeve seems a bit amiss.

The big thing here is why draw attention to it,especially like that

"Nature chooses who will be transgender; individuals don't choose this." -Mercedes Ruehl
Being trans is just as much as a 'decision' as being gay/bi/straight/cis-/etc.
I most likely missworded myself there. i still belive there is a decision though.rather a recognition or what have you.
How many people just wake up and feel these things? and how many are born immediately sure of anything beyond their physical sex if even that.while there are some cases of these realizations happening before puberty most do not
though i agree, choose is a bad term,recognize would have been better, and even then, there is a LOT of honing that takes place outside of heterosexuality and cysgenderisim.I am well aware that you know this.In any of these cases there is the issue of being certain, especially when beyond the words of others,people do not have anything to really go on growing up.People are not born with the experience to define much of anything beyond our own interactions with the world,and what people tell us.if someone grew up in the wild devoid of anyone to tell them anything about humanity,What would they know about themselves at all?Not to be a dick, but we are generally born
knowing about as much about ourselves as we are anything else.I am sure it is possible to just know.But I still believe it takes a lot of sorting out before someone can really say anything about themselves.I am 28, and I still cannot define what honestly makes a man or woman beyond words.I know male and female, but that is pretty much it, everything else lies in hearsay and speculation.

Terminology is a tricky thing,yes some people will accept it and embrace it, others will not appreciate it.

I knew what I was getting myself into by writing this journal,and I am glad that you have come here with some valid points. Ones I was hoping someone would shed some light on for me and provide a counterpoint.TY

Many cases of transgender people happen before puberty. I was stating I was a boy, long before puberty. There are people transitioning as young as kindergarten.
People are born this way but the recognize and give it a name later in life. Just because someone doesn't realize it or give it a name until later in life, sometimes much later in life, doesn't mean it hasn't been there all along.
There is no decision to be gay/bi/trans, just like there is no decision to be heterosexual or cis. You don't have to have much world experience to feel something isn't right with you. As I said, I was 8 when I first vocally (as far as I recall) stating I was a boy. I knew I had the feelings long before then too.

I agree, but it is not always that easy.I am sure you were provided with the right knowledge and environment to figure that out earlier on in life.I still believe that coming to that conclusion is not something that just happens without some kind of external stimuli,most likely a bad choice of words,or without an actual knowledge that there is even a difference and why.

We can't really say how this happens because we can't raise people in a black box for their whole life. Thus, what you are saying is purely speculation though studies are showing that the brains of FtMs are structured like male brains thus there being an underlying genetic cause. However you are correct when it comes to not being able to put a finger on why you don't feel right if there is nothing to compare to as far as we can tell anyway.

pretty much,even if it is genetics on some level, the psyche still has to play a strong role in it.
and again thank you for this exchange :>

I don't mean to butt in but many of the trans people I know have always had a sense of body dysphoria and have always felt something was wrong- I'm not saying all, just a lot. It doesn't have to do so much with gender roles, but feel out of place/disgusted with your own body.
Like how we're born with our sexuality. We may not know there's even a difference in us until we learn about all the options. Like, I grew up knowing of gay, straight, and bi. No one told me it was perfectly normal to NOT feel sexual attraction to a person's body. I had no idea what Demisexual was or what it even existed. I just needed to learn what it was before I was like "Oh, that explains a lot".
Like most of the trans people I knew didn't know there was even an option to try and change your gender, they just knew someone was different. Once they found out that this trans thing was for real they were able to put a name to what they were their whole lives.

I don't know if that's what you were trying to say to start with or if I'm making a super bunch of sense. The point I just wanted to make is that the "external stimuli" is mostly just learning that these things exist.

kind of what I meant.if you have no way of defining a problem,then all you know is something is wrong.
though by external stimuli, I meant even knowing that there is a difference between male and female,and what it is

what happens when said character is born with a non standard genitalia though? like female who develops a penis or vice versa? just as a twist on feelign out of place and wantign reassignment surgery, or lets say said character is comfortable neither beign totally male nor totally female.

there is a difference between transgendered and intersex.the terminology is still a bit offputting.though skittle has some other sound viewpoints on the situation. this is really just me running my mouth,so take it as you will

Only (sadly) transgendered character I have is my chupacabra Jesus, who is pre-op FtM, but as he's a repto-mammalian, he has no mammaries and thus a lot of people just call him a cuntboy. Which he's not, though I think I've included the word in the tags before for simplicities sake. But yeah, he actually struggles with his gender identity and is a lot deeper than the sex fetish he's become to those who wish to see him drawn :/

I need more other gendered characters though. I don't have a very wide variety. Must correct this some time!

It's a pretty rude sounding label, isn't it?

i like cunt boys n dick girls simply because it furfills an interesting idea on my part. Loving to be dominated by a bigger male or top a smaller female, the idea kinda qirked my brain in how id work and has peaked my interest ever since, reguardless of the lable, its definitely interesting to me c:

I'm not really touching on the fetish aspect of it here.more so personal opinions on the terms and the usage of them

it really seems to be the only real straight forward way to sugar coat it :P another name would be fantastic, but its kinda hard to come up with

there is a whole other can of worms to be opened there.one I do not feel is pertinent to this discussion
if you like I can state my piece privately

feel free ^^ thou my answer will probabbly come a little later, i plan on going to bed right after i send this, so... tomorrow ill let you know my say on this can o worms

Many people who initiate transition with the intent to complete SRS never get that far, and end up being happy with who they are somewhere in between. In such cases, I see no problem with these titles as long as they are self-applied and not intended to be self deprecating.

Not related to the discussion, but I love your Avatar. Very cute.

this I find more agreeable

My problem with it is it just is more blurry lines to try to define what is often the same thing. For example:

Gay
homosexual
fag
queer

At the base its the same damn thing - but to many they mean different things.

Its muddied even further because thew use of those terms means either a title "gay"...
Or as a insult "fag"...

But not everyone thinks the same, to some, just the term "gay" means someone repulsive to them.

Why muddy the waters more? Already in use are stupid terms like "metrosexual"

I have transgender turns, but im not transgender as the term applies, im not a shemale because i dont have obvious boobs and even if that would make me a "shemale" - its going to raise hackles of some that think that even the term shemale is abusive. If i had a nice rack and kept my male genitals, I would not think shemale was a wrong term, but thats me.

God damn it, labels are crap because NO one ever defines them the same way. Ever.

And it just causes more division.

And thanks Rude, your a friend of mine forever 8-)

personally as far as orientation, it make more sense to either say "i'm a hetero/homo/whatever, or to just explain it, or to just say you are what you are and like what you like.if there is no good reason to explain it then why bother.terms generally irk me as they are not all that relevant as to who someone is, and the wrong terms can give the wrong impressions.especially when there are steriotypes following them .

It's a bit of a dick move on my part to try and keep my identity vauge as possible, but I do it more for people to get to know me on my terms than for any form of satisaction.the nice thing about the anonymity of the internet is that all of that can be forgone.ideally one can pretty much skip past it all

Tricky move really, by being vague people don't know you... But at the same time you keep people from making assumptions and that's definitely awesome.

The biggest issue is the translation of idea, concept and identity to words.

Be it sexuality, gender, or just general interests, words can be really limiting and labels do not really do justice.

Instance my own identity; I consider myself genderqueer despite being on hormones. By technicality I am an MtF individual... Reality, the lines are further blurred. My gender is not fluid but I feel like a harmonious mix of both genders and sexes. Am I ever male, hardly but I do bind my breast on occasion. At my core I know this blend is who I am but it becomes a shit storm of confusion when trying to articulate the words to properly describe it.

What best describes me? Well... I would assume transgender or transsexual given either:

Trans- (prefix): From the Latin meaning "across, over, or beyond."
So that would go without saying, there is no true definition that holds someone back from either being transgender or transsexual, if they feel what they feel than who is to argue? people inside the psychiatric community surely, but only to make sure standards of care (which are thankfully being revised) are followed.

Probably got sidetracked but yes, labels suck. What is even worse is when others uphold those, expecting your ideas/ideals to fit within those constraints.

~pelts you with rotten fruit~ >8U

But yeah, I agree.

nah, I agree. FtM and MtF are real transgenders, with all the issues you said.

But furries like also to play. So they'll draw cuntboys and dickgirls for the purpose of playing. Yup, it's just a weird fetish of gender confusion meant for e-sex, was it in furry smut or otherwise. As I don't take furry smut seriously, I just make the difference between real trans and cuntboys/dickgirls and I approve both situations.

I think the terms are more direct and less confusing for most people. Like, more people would be left scratching their heads if a character is described as a "transgirl" rather than a dickgirl or shemale. And if the character was supposed to be born with that body, well, just the word "intersex" by itself throws a lot of people for a loop.

So when I can get away with it (without offending someone) I'll tend to use those words instead of typing out a paragraph explanation to head off the inevitable questions.

And then of course I had to create a character who doesn't fit into any of those neat categories, no matter what you call them. *headdesk*

As someone with a Cuntboy character, Part of me agrees with your comments. Jeri isn't a ftm or mtf. But at the same time he wasn't born with his current genital set up. As such he's had a lot of "gender drama" in the RPs and stories I do with him. So he's not only a fetish character. He started as male and through interesting RPs became a cuntboy, and had to learn to deal his mind telling him one thing and his body another. So yeah, that sounds like "transgender" type issues, except he pretty much asked for it and has sense gotten used to it.

I hate to plug a story, but I have wrote with him that involves a discussion on his genderqueerness. Yes, it has sex and ends with a transformation of the other character, but most of it is Jeri telling an interested party what its been like for him. It can be found here if interested in reading it: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/4970053

Agree 100%.

Personally I feel a dickgirl or cuntboy is done changing, and has no interest in further surgery. These people exist, such as Buck Angel, a model who lifts weights, smokes cigars and rides fat dildos like no man or woman could. He has gone on reccord as saying that even were the surgery to give him a fully functioning set of equipment' he's just not interested, as he loves his vagina. I dunno if that makes calling them transgendered wrong, and I don't know if that makes it wrong to assume they are conflicted. Either way, there is a situation under which it would be necessary to specify that, though their bodies and genitalia are mismatched, that's where they want to be in life. Though, they could probably find better words for the state of being.

yesssss buck angel, dude is awesome,
still he's a man in my book,he just has a different groin and is happy with it
though beyond the porn industry and all, I have a hard time believing he would draw attention to it

That depends on the person. There are those who don't think it's anyone's business what they do in the bedroom, and there are those who simply have to go into every gruesome detail simply for the reaction, just as with every other oddity.

Say it with me: "He is happy with his pussy."

I think the main problem is that about 50-80% of characters made on this website are strictly for fetish purposes with no real thought put into their background or actual personality beyond what is or isn't between their legs. If people paused to actually think about it the characters either wouldn't exist or be much different.

I'ts just so much easier/lazier to create a vapid sex hungry character, and of course a great deal of people are hoping they'll create THAT character that suddenly launches them into the "great and mighty" realms of furry popularity.

Very interesting to see the various opinions and comments on here agreeing and to the contrary. I for one agree with you, it'd definitely be nice to see characters with more substance as well as consideration, but I'm not holding my breath sadly.

I plead the fifth

XD, oh me too. I'll admit to having done it myself on the rare occasion. My Lumolian race was originally a joke between me and my boyfriend but as time went on I fell in love with them and decided to keep/expand on them. Occasionally it's fun, but when you have nothing but a brace full of pointless characters it gets a bit silly.

I gotta say, that sounds pretty and all, sept the idea if of it being 'fun' but it not supposing to be 'silly' kinda makes me a bit weary. See, I'm of the opinion that, likewise, living too vicariously through your characters is equally toxic. There are good actors and bad actors - method acting doesn't immediately put you into one or the other, but I've never heard of a straight actor getting cast for the role of the Joker and ultimately killing himself because he couldn't get to sleep thanks to the horror of the character he portrayed.

... I'm unsure what a 'brace' is in this context, though.

I just find it odd when furfags are all "OHY GOD I WANT TO SUCK ON HIS PUSSY" and then you go "oh so what if I told you she was a flat breasted chick" .".....oh sick..gross girls"
its like...ok?
a vagina is a vagina... but I guess in this fandom it has to be on a man

Yeah, I've seen this too. I think that confuses me the most! o.o

Some people are attracted to the concept of a guy without being attracted to the dick itself.

There are plenty of gay men who find FtMs hot (pre-bottom surgery) and lesbians who find MtFs hot (pre-bottom surgery) because they are not attracted to the sex organ itself but the concept of male/female/etc.

oh yes i know all too well. I am not sexually attracted to either sex but find females more appealing due to the independence and strength they possess.
But with what you said, it still doesnt make sense when they accept a male vagina and say eeww to one being on a flat chested chick. A vagina is a vagina. They still show attraction to the cuntboi's vagina. Not talking about emotional attachments, more towards those who use it as a fetish

The moment they find out it is female, their perception of the character itself entirely changes.

... oh god. Really? ... oh god. =/

Ditto for characters with intersex.

/r/ vaginagirl porn :V

Skimming other posters, I'll have to agree with Skittle that Cuntboy and Shemale can be used for terms of self-identification, and with Wet Coyote that many words taken at face value can mean the some intrinsic thing, but have slight technical differences. Both of these points, I was wanting to make, so I'll try and make this brief.

Well for starters, we probably are going to find a lot of common ground that Transgender is been turned into a fetish, or such characters were made for sex relief. I personally cringe when surfing the web, I end up with an advert for "Tranny porn" but I know a few furs that'd identify with the terms. The former I feel is mass-marketed exploitation, as they get the least convincing people I have seen, that are more reminiscent of Pampered up Drag Queens with breasts, and if someone sees this as it is, they'll remember the image, and relate it in conversation with anyone in discussion of Transgenderism. The latter, of individual people taking it up, is well, for a starter's it's a a fuck ton more ethical depending on their mindset and maturity, kinda reminds me of Gonzo porn (Which isn't dick-tated by a Hetronormalitive pervert in their late sixties.) So for those furries that use the term, I see nothing wrong with it, it's like taking back words that were once offensive. But my main point, it really depends on Context and how it's portrayed, I dimly remember a prominent Feminist (can't remember which.) said it was impossible to make a sex-positive Feminist perspective piece of pornography marketable, some did take up the challenge, but given the scale of websites you can find on google for "Degrading" fetishes, like Rape and Humiliation. Yeah, individual furries are either as 4chan say; Pissing in an ocean of piss, or involved in a small revolutionary act of sex politics.

my Second and last point, is more of an example of Wet Coyote's comment.I have a Flier from NEST (North East Scottish Trans) the local Trans-advocacy group. All relevent information the front, and on the back, it lists definitions. Now in the range of individual areas, definitions are likely to have subtle differences. While I understand your use of "Transgender", it differs as to the opinion of Woman Born Transsexual blog (First example that came to my head.) as well as the local definitions. Which lists Transgender as: an Umbrella term given to a range of people whose gender differs from the one they were given at birth. Groups can include; Male to Female transsexuals, Female to Male transsexuals, Intersex people and cross dresser/transvestites.

To you this doesn't differ too much, or reinforces what you said. However I speak to the person runs NEST, a rather fun person, but general consues of the administration of NEST, is that they want to opt out of the Transgender umbrella, not wanting to confabulate people with a Gender identity to that of Cross dressers who may or may not be sexually motivated. As it's potentially sexualising Transsexuals not as who they want to be perceived (ie members of the opposite sex) but as objects of lust, to be degraded and fetishised. They are also rather wary of terms stated; Opinions of "Non-operative" Transsexuals are somewhat harsh, they view like the terms oxymoronic, and sexually-negative. To call someone Transgendered in their opinion is to downgrade their inner conflict (Gender Dysphoria) to that of a sexual motivation and/or perversion. (A handy term would be "Autogynophila" to understand their mindset.)

I don't think I've had contact with the organisation for... about a year, so I don't know if they're opinions have changed or if it's the same people. I differ them them on some small points, or I may have a misunderstood their position. (They certainly aren't keep on the notion of Autogynophila, labelling it psuedoscience, I know for one.) But what I was trying to get across is that; different people have different opinions on what exactly makes up the transgender umbrella exactly. I'd personally prefer to call myself a Transsexual as opposed to Transgendered, because I think it's more accurate to how I identify.

Note: Also it just escaped me, that one of the Reasons NEST is somewhat hostile to Transgenderism, was that it regulates funding away from people they'd require help, and If I remember, went to fund some drag party, organised by someone that identifies themselves as a "Sissy genderqueer tomboy", who was higher up in the main body of which NEST receives funding (if any) which could've been used for legal aid (After transitioning, they got divorced and the Judge ruled because of their state, they were unfit to see their children, or that's how it was perceived, and full custody was given to the Wife.) the funding very well could've also helped set up a LGBT on my University campus (Something which was dismantled due to legal issues prior to my academic enrolment.) But then I don't know the whole story or are privy to how the funding is spent.
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Personal Note: I'm MtF Trans, I'd prefer strict female pronouns, but I don't get that assed, if someone or me uses the term "man" like mankind, as given it's historical routes, to me, is gender neutral. Unlike today's Newspeak.

Fuck, I meant to save this to linux notes, review it later and edit it into a clean summary. Ah well. >_>

it happens

yeah, I think one of my greatest irks with it is that the terms generally seem to slapped on to superficial fetish fodder chrs

would you mind linking me some of these refferances?

For the first point: http://rageagainstthemanchine.com/2.....ball-janitors/
*Note: Although all blogs including Scientific ones (Excluding Journals) are opinion pieces, I find the slight experiment they did with google kinda 'enlightening' in a worrying way.

I can't reference to any of the staff of NEST's opinions, as it was all one-on-one personal encounters, actually I do believe their is a yahoo group from the main site, but you need to be approved to access it. My minds blanking and dyslexia with a wall of text aren't in my strongest suit, which specifically would you like references for?

whatever you feel is most enlightening honestly

Go to Xhamster.com or obvious porn site and search under their category of tranny porn. Look not at the sexualised context, but the actual content and appearance of the actor. Contrast that with, wish I had the actual pictures, of pretty much every one you see on google images searching "Transsexual". It's very imprecise, but there is something of a difference in terms with features.

The actual point this was for now, is to show the difference of mainstream porn industries views of Transwomen, to that of the actual reality. Alternatively, people other than transsexuals under the Transgender umbrella, tend to go for a more androgynous look attached by non-medical means*; due to that, if you want to look in similar ways to the opposite sex, your going to have to really want it, due to the medical and psychological risks of completely screwing over your own endocrine system with hormones. But I don't have access to photos I could ethically use to illustrate the difference. (It'd be somewhat exploitive to show them in a comparative manner. A common criticism of the works of Diana Arbus... >_>)

*Like make-up, clothing, hair styling. I opt for a Corset, as it's black and somewhat reminiscent of BDSM. |3

hahaha oh jeez, that is bad

No, I basically agree with you. If someone's transgendered, then they're male or female.

The other terms seem very sexually loaded - and I mean, everyone does more with their gender than just have sex - but I can see how there'd be the desire for some trans folks to grab the terms and run with 'em. Sort of like the way we've reclaimed "Queer," "faggot," and "Gay." Sort of saying "yeah? it's just how I'm made, get over it." And I notice that here in furry fandom, the fetishism sort of soften things actually. It's nice to have some portrayal which isn't really tied into the deadly serious issues that people face while transitioning.

...What about those transgender people who are nullgender, bi-gendered, third gendered, etc?

There is just male/female.

I thought dickgirls and cuntboys were like, girls with dicks and boys with cunts. Like everything is the same but the genitalia. I've never heard anyone call a trannie a dickgirl or cuntboy, but I guess it's not really that relevant to my life so I wouldn't've had the opportunity. God, people and their words for stuff..

Honestly when I hear the terms dickgirl and cuntboy I cringe a little bit. It sounds slightly insulting on a topic so personl and further, I wonder if the individuals who make these character know the plight of individuals who are incongruous with their flesh. I don't think there is anything wrong with making gender into a fetish because it really is fun, complex and sexy. I just do not like it when these sexually charged characters are referred to as transgender or transsexual, it seems irreverent. Yes, being proud of your form and or loins is certainly healthy but what gets me is the hyper characters with large breasts/cocks, could easily open up a can of words but will refrain from doing so. I find myself looking at some dickgirl and cuntboy art with a level of confusion and misplaced attraction...

Also, really? The terms just sound down right ridiculous.

this sums up my feelings on the subject rather well tbh

We should all just be androgynous and hold hands and skip through fields of flowers while playing football.

viking football, where you drag your opponents across your goal

And then have a tea party

If anyone, anywhere, ever has the audacity to call me a cuntboy I will slit their fucking throat. I am a man, and I am not my body.

I think I understand what you're saying, btw. Pretty insightful.

*shrugs* Get mad at me all ya want, Sonny Jim, but I'm here for the ass, ass titties, titties and ass. I never made any qualms or confusing statements bout it, or proclaimed to have deep, thoughtful characters. I didn't know we were up for peer review, to be honest witcha. I'm sorry that you think some people are trying to step on your little sunshine or rain on your parade or whatever, but, honestly, as one of whut might be those, I never fashioned a thought towards it. I'm sorry if you ever felt otherwise, or flabbergasted you feel so self-important, whichever the way, I'm just here to have and make fun.

A few side notes, though - my char Relana was meant to be one of those thoughtful characters I dun' boast about. She doesn't consider herself transgendered, more a 'biologically engineered monster with no desire to change' but she does have plenty of that strife and turmoil that seem to be... necessary... in orders to be truthful.

Also, I'd never heard the word cysgendered before. Neat.

P.P.S. - I never use the term dickgirl in the furry-munity. ... it's more a hentai/Japanesey thing for me. Shemale does fine. Cuntboy? ... ... lot smaller in numbers.

unfortunately It's damn near impossible to make a journal stating personal veiws or whatever on this site without seeming like a preacher.you are entitled to see it your own way and disagree with me just as much as I am entitled to disagree with you.no harm done and no need for apologies.

Wasn't really making excuses or apologizing for any actions, really, nor did I think you sounded too preachy. I just really wanted you to hang a little looser, let the lil things slide, ya know?

hahaha, it's not like I can really do much to stop it.If anything just pointing out why i find it bothersome

Comment flood, whoop. Anyway, tl;dr the comments, I'll just say my short peice on it (so it'll probably be redundant).

Thank you. God damn. It kind of annoys me when it's a character made for pure fetish material, but whatever, not my buisness. However it gets annoying when people project that onto me as well. I'm transgender (mtf) irl myself and the only thing more annoying than being blatantly called AMG DIKGURL/HERM/FUTA/AMGFAP or some shit is outright being called a man in defiance of that which I strive to be, that which I really am. Soooo, yeah! While I'm pretty desensitised to these terms, really, just being called her or female or a woman will do. That would be fucking superb.

God damn.