Heh.
Agreed.

They re right actually - Bibles is such a load of nonsence that any elemntary scientific notion demolisces it... But even the common sense sufficies: "Adam and Eve have had three sons who sired... Whey, wait, with whom, you bunch of incestuous fools?'?-)))

Apparently incest was made a sin later along in biblical history (around the time of Abraham, if I remmeber right)

loth (or what's his name) was screwing with both of his daughter and it was his WIFE who wasturned into a saline pillar - was God enjoying feitshy porn too?-)

I'd like to make a 'Biblical' portfolio sometime, showing all the sex and depravity in the bible. It'd be fun

Nah they didn't got enough imagination to make good porn... Are you familiar with Sirkowski, drawer of Eva and Black Chin? He thought about something like that too...

Incest, genocide and children in sexual slavery is pretty intense.

But everything can be portrayed in a boring way and Bible managed that - don't forget centuries of hiden censoreing it got!

They need to make the bible 18+

And in other words, I should buy the whole bible and read through it. :/

Nono, his daughter were date-raping him (because there ws no other guy around in like...5 miles)
This was after he gave them to that mob to be raped, though

A druken into unconsiousness man can't be raped (or got hard), so that's not an excuse for that old goat1-)

After you get raped, you just gotta return the favor!

And earlier sinner have never lost tehir aureolas - Loth is a prophet or something like that...

"Sarah" is the wife of Abraham D:

She also became pregnant at age 99 due to the hand of god.

Damn, God has dickfingers.

lol That's just nutty.

part of the awesome reason why we have such awesome wars. All in the name of dying for the invisible man.

I agree that the country has been becoming increasinly anti-Christian...

but downplaying evolution is a BIG no-no in my book

humans are animals too

Good. Fuck Christianity.

Don't fuck Christianity.

They got enough sex already.



-X

let's rather go to Creationist Dinosaur Adventureland of "dr" Kent Hovind !
He can relate to children in a level they can understand (without fancy, high school level biology facts)

Worst thing I believed in was Day-Age Creationism when I was a kid. Thankfully, I watched way to many science shows back then.

I first listened to Hovind on Art Bell's Coast to Coast AM, it was awesome.

Eh this isn't something that outrageous. You know they have websites that are made to make kids and adults resists the "sinful lusts of masturbation"?

Made me ashamed to be a Christian.

It's outrageous that they've turned christianity into a political agenda, rather than a faith.

It's not like that in their eyes. They see themselves spreading the faith to get everyone on the same side. The ironic thing is though, the only reason the 'country is becoming more anti-christian' is because how meddlesome christians are becomming in people's lives.

They are quite meddlesome.

I mean, good grief, I actually have people who come in where I work, and try to get me to go to their church.

I explain that it's not possible - I work Sundays, and I'm the one who orders all our stuff. :p

People left their homes in search of a place where they can be free to practice any religion. Then this country is founded by Christians in the name of God. Funny.

What's wrong with teaching science and evolution? Science is based on Data that is real. Religion is faith, and holds no solid evidence. It should be a choice to learn/join Christianity.

just because people aren't pro-christian doesn't mean they're anti-christian, unless your definition is "everything that's not for us is against us". Jesus didn't teach that. It makes you wonder if we've actually manifested our own anti-christ through the bastardization of his doctrines.

That's exactly the problem, a lot of vocal christians have that mentality. I used to have it as well.

I have a lot of respect for christians who quietly and fervently worship without making a public scene, as Jesus instructed. These other people have become the modern day Pharisees, the religeous-politcal group with strongarm tactics that Jesus fought so hard against. Its the definition of irony.

I've always been of the opinion that, if Jesus ever DID come back, he'd immediately be denounced as the Antichrist due to his opposition to everything these nutjobs stand for. And of course the real antichrist would be a Baptist preacher or a Pope or something.

I should see about getting a custom t-shirt made that says "Jesus is the Antichrist." Also "Jesus ate my baby!" just for the hell of it. But I have a strange feeling no one would get either one of those.

Wanna talk irony? I wonder how many starving children you could feed with all that jewelry, fancy silver globets and all that crapola the Pope and his friends use for religious purposes.

Children born to people who were told birth control is wrong.

There is a museum near my house that is all about armor, it's founder was named "Higgens" and that makes me giggle.

This makes me giggle more o.o;

Seriously though, I have found that anything with power is corrupted, the higher up you go, the worse it is, the less connected it is. I have no problem with christianity up to say.. maybe the level of the local priests. Beyond that, I wouldn't trust anyone. The same goes for just about any religion.

There was a local meeting of jewish and muslim youths in Boston recently, and both sides are hoping to do public works together(I believe, I read this sometime last week and have lost the article..) During the entire meeting the current atrocities overseas were purposefully avoided, just to prove that the two religions could coincide peacefully.. I doubt that kind of cooperation would ever happen higher up, because the higher you get, the more people can manipulate you from the shadows, and the harder it is keep your common sense.

To get back on track, things like this are not done by mainstream christians, it is disgusting that such a small percentage of the powerful and the well-known can paint with such broad and retarded strokes that even I feel some amount of visceral pleasure in bashing them. Even though I have no real problems with what the average american christian would stand for..

Sorry for babbling, did I even make sense? I just woke up from a nap and so I am still all over the place..

I completely agree with you, actually, you made perfect sense.

Thank you, it's good to know I can get a point across when I need to.

I think my biggest issue on this, as a whole, is that it *seems* like more and more people are going to the fucking-crazy-Christian-right side of things. What I want to know is this:

When the hell did people become so retarded? Seriously. All of the sudden over the past five years, I feel like people just got extremely stupid. Maybe it's just because no one ever listened to them before/they didn't have any voice to get their backasswards message out.

So what if I go to Hell, big fucking deal. I'd rather do that then live by a bunch of rules that a bunch of nutjobs think I should follow. I could go on and on about this, but I won't, because then I'll just be laughed at for ranting like crazy. :P

the easier it is to get information out, the easier it will be to find viewpoints you disagree with. Where were furries back in the 80s? See what I mean? x3

The only difference between the people you see on TV and the people who spew forth retarded ideas on the street is that someone with money and an agenda has decided to get behind it.

I think one of the best examples of this is how the gay marraige thing is being treated. If this were not a religious issue, it would have been settled a long time ago. Marraige as a state recognized institution should be completely gender blind. Only two groups have a real, definite anti-gay marraige opinion that I can think of:

The Religious Right: Who do it for 'completely philosophical' reasons, including their idea that they have a right to judge how each and ever person who looks at, lives next to, or deals with a member of their religion has a live. This, to me, seems to completely go against the whole "love thy neighbor" principles which always seemed to be a focal point of my weekly sermons growing up.

The Insurance Companies: Mostly because they don't want to offer more marraige insurance rates, as far as I can tell. Of course you don't hear about this side as much as the religious side, do you? It's much easier to portray something that you don't want to happen as evil than it is to portray it as a way to save your company some money.


People in general haven't gotten stupider, the country as a whol is getting smarter, some areas perhaps faster than others, but alot of the backwards ideas we get bombarded with are just growing pains of the information age. I doubt if you got any of these bible-thumpers alone, and calm, and rational, they would stand up to the harsh inquiry of reason for more than a few hours(depending on how much sleep and food they had had recently.. x3 ) but when people get together, and they have someone(who might not believe what they believe but /wants/ the other person to believe something) to stand behind them and encourage them, the will fight for some very obfuscated causes.

Would you really want to go to hell? I don't know if there is one myself, I know that I follow my gut on alot of my life decisions, but if I live by being emphathetic and as understanding as I can possibly be, I usually get by without a guilty conscience.

I think I am already ranting like crazy, though if I am still making sense I am really just preaching to the choir, so I can just ramble without fear of persecution. :3

Fuck. I agree with you on all of this.

I have no idea what else to say, other than I hope you're right. Maybe I've just gotten too biiter the last few years... I tend to follow my instincts as well, and try my best to... you know, better the world around me, and I think that's all that really matters. Help those around you, and be sincere about it.

Because in the end, there's no real point to wasting your time hating people. Ooooh, so many conflicting emotions right now, haha.

No, I'm pretty sure people have gotten stupider, or I'm just noticing it more. And a lot of these people are immune to reasoning, I know I was, I remember the lines of crap I used to spew.

::Shudders:: Null, I can't even begin to imagine you being anything like the crazies I hear about/have dealt with in the past. :O

Of coruse, it depends on where you live. Apparently, Swedes apparently visits churches alot, but you don't see many "god hates fags" types here. :/ Infact, I think someone at church wanted to allow church marriage for gay people (we have no laws against gay marriage). And there's alot of christians that belives in evolution here, but then the christians here dosen't take the bible as literally.

And yeah, we're protestantic christans here. Technically I don't really belive in everything in the bible, since even if parts are true it was written by the man himself after all.

"The whole purpose of Christ's ministry was one of absoloute forgiveness and acceptance. The only unchristian behavior is the spewing of hatred."

Eh I think it's healthier if people practice their religion with a grain of salt. It's when you start to believe every word of the bible as canon and then try to portray parts of it an euphemisms for modern problems that it becomes a bad thing..

I believe there was a book published several years ago that detailed all the nasty sex and interesting and contradicting claims that is written in the bible.

Fortunatly for me, I'm a neo-pagan so I can laugh hard at the crap these bible thumpers try to push onto people and not feel ashamed. The US abandoning it's christian god? Since when was the country proclaimed to be following christian ideals and teachings? I heard that several of it's founding fathers where dietists.

GTFO OF AMERICA AND GET TO THE CHOPPER!

We're going to heaven in a handbasket!

I was gonna say something... but I decided not to. (P

You just did, you drama monger!

"authority of the Bible"?
You know, somehow I doubt that's what God had in mind. :p
Seems like a good message all in all, but people go and fuck it up. Hehe.

discussions about christianity have become quite popular among the heathen folks.

penis envy most likely.

I want my foreskin back :(

One thing that I've come to notice along the way, is that most christians seem to have gotten their own religion incorrect; that is, what they call "christianity" isn't really what it's supposed to be. I think at least one other person touched on this.

Jesus is supposed to be about peace, love, and forgiveness. But where did it all go? I think you can still pick out the original ideas when you look at stuff in the bible, and much of what Jesus said is similar to the most basic idea of Karma: do good things, and good will happen; do bad things, and bad will happen. I think there was also the idea that we should generally be nice to each other, help each other, etc, and that we're all connected in some way. If you really believe all of the bible stuff, then we're all brothers and sisters--literally.

Personally, I'm sortof Buddhist, by my own chosing. But the things I like are the things that tend to be common to most all religions. I also reject some aspects of Buddhism that I'm not that fond of. So I'm more spiritual than religious, you could say. I think religion should be that way, though: you don't have to just blindly accept what someone else tells you; rather, you can form your own opinions and follow your own path. As Buddhist doctrine suggests, there are many paths to enlightenment :)

It'd be cool to come with some agnostic dinosaur geeks and to debate points of views there.

The 'Evolutionary Termites' from the Powerpoint images section made me roffle. Priceless.

In West Philadelphia, Born and raised,
On the playground was where I spent most of my days,
Chillin' out maxin' relaxin'n an' all cool an' all shootin' some b-ball out side'a the school
When a couple'a guys, they were up to no good!
Startin' makin' trouble in my neighborhood!
I got in ONE little fight and my mom got scared, she said "You're movin' with your auntie and uncle in Bel-Air."

The finest point on the entire journal. <3

Jesus is cool. I just really can't get along with the majority of his insane fanboy/girl fanclub.

I may not be christian, but even I acknowledge that the Pope himself decreed evolution to be truth...

that's catholic, I was talking more about hardcore protestants.

Here, protestants are the liberals, it took me quite some time to accept they can be even worse than catholics :d

It's ironic how their faith originated in the idea of not giving priests insane amount of money and believe in everything they say... and now they are spending their money on mega churches and follow televengalists

Seems like every group that breaks off for specific reasons winds up, way down the line, with an irony like this. I hope it's a phase, personally.

The preacher at my mom's church told everyone to be like donkies. That is, TO SPREAD THE WORD OF JESUS (it was in some reference to some book, where a man who was spreading the word of Jesus across Africa was called a donkey because Jesus road on a donkey and shit). He also tells them that thr rapture is coming soon. My mom wants me to hurry up and accept the word of God because she doesn't want me to be left behind, and she even lays a sort of guilt trip on me. "I don't know where you think your dad went when he passed away but I KNOW he went to Heaven." And my mom ain't the only nut in my family, either.

My aunt was telling me a story, a "true story", about a drug addict. Apparently, the man was ON DRUGS and at rock bottom when the Lord came to him and "saved" him. I tried to point out the fact that this man was on drugs, but my ant simply said, "When it's the Lord, you KNOW." Can't fight that logic now can yeah.

This post had no point. D:

ohey. related.

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