Actually I care. But someday you will leave because of the reasons you just mentioned and because other responsibilities will replace it. You will see in time Young Jedi.

I can't tell you that I loved meeting you because I already met you, silly. :3 And Shale, people just disappear from the fandom all the time. People would definitely care. It's only when the OMG POPUFURS vanish that people cry about it because it's cool to do that for people who are popular. On the internet.

Por ejemplo, I have furiends from God knows how long ago that I never see anymore, and I worry about them a lot. But, sometimes people just move on. Real life should always take precedence over "second life", if you will.

Since I myself practice such a disconnected and watcher-only form of participation in this fandom, I really can't help you with this one...

It's up to you on what your final decision is. If you don't feel like you belong here in the fandom then don't stay. your life, not mine. I don't care what you decide.

Well then that was pretty mean of you to reply. Why did you even respond if you don't care. And of course I remember how you responded when Was00 said the same thing. Him you cared about.

well he and I talked most of the while you and I we didn't so we never had that friendship. It's like every time i tried to talk to ya you always shoved me away or just disappear. So yea do whatever you want.

I have no idea where all this aggression is coming from. I've never shoved you aside. Though in all honesty the last several months have been Pretty bad for me, not offering a lot of time to just sit at my computer. And you haven't tried talking to me for several months anyway.

*sighs* you kno..i don't know where this aggression is coming from either...I'm very sorry. I guess after hearing news from losing a friend on the 17th..and bullshit drama going on, I just snapped.

I do want to keep in contact with you but after all this I don't blame you if you don't ever want to talk to me. I've been an asshole lately and I'm working on stopping it. *sighs again*

honestly, I do want you to stay on FA but it's your choice if you want to stay or not. I mean if you don't feel comfortable then don't stay, ya kno? No matter what your decision is..i'm sure it's a good choice. We all have reasons why we do things.

Again I'm very sorry.

Its impossible to change others. You can only change yourself. If you want a different reaction from people, you should either change your expectations, or try changing yourself to try and warrant those expectations.

I think a good place to start would be to stop posting mopey journals. People are less inclined to be your friend if you're always toting around your emotional baggage with you. Everyone has problems. They don't want to take on yours in addition to their own, and so they just won't make the commitment to be your friend in the first place.

Yeah. I tried that. Doesn't make for friends if they are only fair weather friends. Truth is my reputation is stuck with me and won't change. I've told you how rough things have been. And trying to do it Amd deal with it all by myself is hard.

I love how the general response here is "go ahead, we don't care" I've seen enough people who post dower journals like this and still have a better response than apathy.

I ask myself this sometimes too, having been in the furry world for a little over ten years, and so much has changed during my involvement. Even if I drop off the radar a little bit, I'll catch wind of a certain change somehow, no matter where I go. Even if it's a train ride from Seattle to Pittsburgh.

Sure, I'm vilified by most of the furs in the local fur community, and perhaps alienated several others that are not within the BC Furs, but that's never stopped me before, right?

Ok, listen, I do not want to give you my whole schpiel. I can, but it would be way tl;dr. Maybe I can talk with you online or something.

But here's some quickie advice. You want friends in the furry fandom? Learn something worthwhile and get good at it. Make it creative. Practice until you are god damn great at it. Creative talent is respected by furries (and derided by creativity-lacking trolls). You will attract attention if you are great at something. If people troll you for being good at something, even better. That means they envy you.

That takes time and effort, and it requires to shift focus 'away' from searching out generic social interaction. It's going to require your blood, sweat, and tears for a long time to get from a rank novice to skilled practitioner. You're gonna think you suck at it. And you will at first. But you will get better, even if you think you still suck at it.

But make it creative. Playing video games is not a creative talent. Learn something useful and practical. The sooner you start, the better chance you have of becoming great. Choose something and start now. I mean right fucking NOW! And don't stop. Ever.


You want a shortcut, though? You can always choose to be creative by proxy. That's why people who buy smoking hot fursuits become instantly popular. People connect a fursuit that someone else made to the person wearing it.

I do not recommend that shortcut as a long-term solution, but it does work in the short-term. The problem is that hew hotness becomes old and busted quick. So you have to keep feeding that beast more money to get more proxied creativity. You should instead invest that money into gaining real creative talent of your own.

that actually reminds me. I seen shale start a project it was a 3d room or something. if you look he should still have it up. IDk if hes worked on it though. But yeah Shale maybe thats were you could start with Orzels post?