I think you should read this:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2306671/

I really don't care what you think. I'm glad he's dead. he planned and brainwashed others into executing his plan to kill thousands of american lives. I can guarantee you that not one person was sad or upset when Hitler offed himself. I'm happy he's dead. I would be more upset if he were a stand up person that had not murdered thousands of people including his own people. Get over your self. he's dead. I'm glad he's dead and so are millions of americans and his own countrymen. if you don't like what I write don't post here

It's wrong though to be "glad" or derive pleasure from a person's death. Just because "millions of americans" may be does not make it right, argumentum ad populum and all that. His death may have been a strategic necessity of the war, but it is not something to be celebrating or enjoying.

You need to add "In my opinion" at the end of that statement or else every emotionally sensitive person in the war effort and connected to 9/11 will come jumping down your throat.

Objective moral facts are not dependent on opinions.

Thats how you FEEL.

Objective moral "facts"? What are these? Oh...something you just invented.

No. I did not invent the Meta-ethical field of thought that is Universal Moral Objectivism. It would have been nice to do so though, but I am not Plato. Moral Objectivism takes on the concepts of Moral Absolutism, and broadens the basic moral principle to universal moral facts. It claims that there are moral facts that govern the right and wrongfulness of our actions, and unlike value or normative or relatavist ethics or moral code the Objectivist has solid basic claims, that exist without dependency on culture, the individual, or our thoughts or opinions on the matter. Moral Objective facts are listed usually as sentences that are universal and fundamental in nature and are generally viewed by philosophers to be self-evident.
Example:
It is wrong to let someone die if it is in your power to save their life.
>>If you pass a shallow pond, and see a child drowning in it, you ought, morally to rescue the child even though the mud of the pond will ruin your clothing.
The objective moral fact remains in this situation that it is wrong to allow others to die when we can save them at no consequence to ourselves.

I fear that I may not be the best at explaining such morality, as it is a field that needs to be carefully studied, and the works and words of acclaimed moral philosophers should be read and analyzed. I will with that intent, direct you to some wonderful reading on the topic of Morality and Ethics.
Russ Shafer-Landau is a good author for introductory books on moral theory, so I will begin with his two good books, "The Fundamentals of Ethics" and "The Ethical Life". Immanuel Kant is also a wonderful writer and philosopher on the topic, and his books are numerous.

I'm well aware of the field of ethics. However, describing YOUR morals as an "objective moral fact" is nothing more then a transparent fallacy.

It's universal that we should not get pleasure out of the death or suffering of other people.
It's a stretch to say that such thing is only my own morals, and applicable only to me. The thing about objective morals is that they apply to everyone, even if you don't like them. I am sorry that you don't like them, but since they are not dependent on your wants and exist outside of what you and I can change, you and I must live with them.

GOOFY.

I agree. I think if the Americans celebrating saw what the rest of the world thought of them at this moment they might feel differently. It's horrible to laugh at death in general, but when the population doing it is generally also the population that is pro-life it's just fucking ironic, and not in a funny way.

And to go one step further when the government releases the photos of his body I'm going to hang it on my wall. then make copies and frame them for all my military friends that were deployed to kill him

I think it speaks a great deal to your character to hear that you'd decorate your living space with pictures of corpses.

you should see my mounts from hunting

Dead animal =/= dead person
Sorry bro, try again.

Tell that to PETA

Deo is'nt partt of PETA, i know what she believes can upset people. But shes actually not a bad gal.

that may be, but I'm going to speak my mind and i don't care if i offend people

I don't know, I think some Gein-esq nipple drapes would go quite nicely with an Osama shade, don't you?

/sarcasm

You're like those people that protest at military funerals...tossing around your Holier Than Thou opinions where it isn't welcome. Free speech or not...it's in poor taste to wear a Swastika to bar mitzvah and it's in poor taste to tell us how we should feel about that prick getting his cranium hollowed out.

Figure it out, brother. You're in the minority. Most Americans are glad he's dead. Hell alot of us (myself included) wish we could've been the ones to pull the trigger ourselves.

Solace in death is nothing new. And taking comfort in the fact that a radical, mass-murder promoting, religiously diluted psychopath is no longer among the living seems like a good a reason as any to throw a few parties. Sorry your outlook on the World is such that you can't enjoy a moment of victory with the rest of us just because a worthless piece of trash had to get rubbed out.


It's ok, though. I'm sure the next time we come across a man that has directly or indirectly caused the deaths of several thousand people, we'll take the time to ask him questions about why he did it...then lock him away in prison for the rest of his life so John. Q. TaxPayer can provide him with room and board. Because that is a better decision than expending a single bullet because, hey...who are we to do anything but turn the other cheek? Right?

You should run for office under that concept. See how far it gets you.

+1

*highfive*

My standing up for morals is the equivalent of harassing the funerals of our service men and women? Uh, no. The two are not the same. Stay classy with your Strawman there.

And as a member of our military you protect the rights of the minority to free speech, do you not uphold those American values my friend? And no I doubt most Americans gleefully wish they were the ones to shoot a man in the head.

Umm...yes. See. The Westboro Baptist Fundies are indeed standing up for what they believe are THEIR morals, considering they argue that America's acceptance of Faggots is why God is killing soldiers. Last I checked, that means they are standing up for their belief that homosexuality is immoral thus they are making a moral stance based on what they think is correct. Apples to Apples, Buttercup. You may not share their exact moral fiber but you both point out that the rest of us are immoral in some way and your view is superior. :3

Refer to my comment below that I added after the initial as an answer to your second point, little lady. I'm all about free speech. You're free to say what you want when you want. But like in most cases, if you BRING your opinion into a situation where it isn't wanted, expect me to exercise my right of free speech to call you a massive cunt. Man...aint American keen?

Again I say: You're welcome.

Is it lonely up there on your pedestal? O.o

Pedestal? Hardly. Basic morality is a basic concept that should be pertinent to all. It is hardly a thing to be calling a pedestal.

No... I'm saying you're a cunt because you clearly suffer from a case of severe autism AND Downs Syndrome. You are probably egregiously overweight with NO college degree. You should NOT be allowed on FA due to your childish mindset. Because of YOU... I advocate the government sterilizing the retarded. Also, get out of my country you neanderthal! Knuckle dragging cunt....

The best you can do to counter philosophy and morals is call my mental abilities into question?
Argument: You are doing it wrong.
Also don't you think using such mental illnesses as means to slander is wrong? Using such diseases as a negative insult seems callous of those who actually do have Autism or Downs Syndrome.

It is interesting though after your list of ad hominems that you call me "childish" in my mindset, while you are the one name calling. And really, if you are so bad at aligning words to defend your views and so bad at articulating and supporting your claims that you must resort to calling me "retarded", "neanderthal", and "cunt", your views must be the ones that are more childish. And I beg to differ about whom should be forcibly sterilized (as in no one) and whom should be kicked off FA. I wouldn't be the one to advocate that some people should be kicked off just because they say things that I disagree with. Grow up, this isn't preschool, name calling does nothing and telling people they should be kicked out because you don't agree with them is petulant.

My apologies, ma'am. I wasn't compelled to read your biographical information on the grounds that I garnished all I needed to REALLY know about you from your ideological information. However since it was brought to my attention that you are decidedly a "sister" and not a "brother", I retract that minor detail from my previous post.

The rest stands firm, though. And it's only by the grace of Southern Charm that I'm biting back what I'd much rather be saying at this point :) Since I do sometimes detest the fact that I put my life on the line every day to protect the freedoms that allow you to spout this drivel you seem to so solidly cling to.


You're welcome, Princess.

YUHH BRUTHA AMURRIHUH -cracks open budweisers- GIT UR DONE


White trash unite.

White trash believes in unity? WHAT.

I can't tell if he's being an asshole or just taking it to far

I recant that statement you are the worlds largest asshole hey Tom check this out ttp://www.furaffinity.net/journal/2312496

Can't you tell?

The angsty Wolbit (or Rabolf) is showing us how stereotypical racism can be used to make one feel more superior to others while simultaneously attempting to mask their own personal insecurities by making light of perceived negatives found in other cultures.

But that logical fails when the racism is directed towards people that actually fit the stereotype. We own guns and love "AMURRIHUH", fellas. We are white and pretty trashy. :/

Though I do take offense at the notion that I would ever "Crack Open Budweisers". Natty Light is the only choice of REAL white trash.

I prefer landshark and a nice merlot or Johnny walker. Hey dres did you see the link I posted above of what he thinks of service men?

I did. But certain levels of ignorance warrant silence rather than an abstract response and this is a very fine example of such a circumstance.

Thus. I saw. I bemused a reply. Then remembered that you can't very well argue a point with those that don't use logical thoughts or expressions.

So for the same reason you can't explain to a dog why he shouldn't shit then turn around and eat it, I will hold my words and just say to myself "Awww...it's so derpy...it's almost endearing."

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l.....exbyo1_500.jpg

Your argument is compelling...well structured...delivered flawlessly...man...I mean what can be more winning than a buttsore macro? Bravo Wolbit (or Rabolf). You zing'd me well.

forwardslashsarcasm :3

oh my god i so love team america XD and the south park episode too lol. hey i was woundering the person who made the shoot where they a furry ???