Good service diserves a tip

Bad service diserves a tip.

Unfortunately that tip is "TRY A NEW CAREER!"

The worst part is not even seeing your waiter for an apology or explanation as to why your meal is taking so long.
I was given a tip (ha, pun) at one point, as follows: If an opinion is worth two cents, display your dissatisfaction visually by leaving two cents on the table. ...in the bottom of the water glass.

Yeah, but Gordon Ramsey is also an asshole who hams for the camera, so I wouldn't put too much stock in just anything that is said on a reality TV show.

Even on a time limit for when an entree should be served? I had SOUP as an entree. It took them over half an hour to deliver soup to me. Soup that should have been already prepared and sitting on a burner set to simmer just to keep it warm and waiting for someone to order it! If it's going to take a place over half an hour to even deliver an entree and when they finally deliver it, they deliver it at the with the main course, there's no way in HELL I'd ever tip.

well if you paid attention to Gordon Ramsey since i have watched a LOT of his programs including the kitchen nightmares then you also know that ALL food ordered for a table should be served at the same time. soup may take a few minutes but other things may not. also every fucking fur in the world was trying to get in there. i have been there done that. last year it took us an hour to get a menu with Oger bitching the whole time. and we were not alone. they had like 5 waiters for the whole place. meaning the soup may have been being made again. but it still would have to come out with the rest when IT was done meaning if someone had something that say needed prepared and deep fried or something that would take longer than the soup. that way all the guests can eat at the same time. something Gordon Ramsey and just about every other restarntuer knows. as far as bad service that could have come from anything like to busy. order got lost in the shuffle of the hundreds of other orders. someone may have been having a bad day. you never know. big nights are chaos. if you watched Kitchen Nightmares then you already know that. this is a place that KILLS LIVE FISH for the freshest sushi for fucks sake not McDonalds. I have waited long than a half hour for a meal at fucking eat and puke. Real Food Takes Time to Prepare. these are not Iron chefs you know. and a Busy restaurant makes that wait longer since they have to cook others food in the order it comes in. and the couple with the baby may have Pre Ordered food and made a reservation or ordered something simplier with less steps and time to make. again you say they only had a few things to order and having been there abouyt 40 times in my life i know the fucking menu and know they have a fuckton to offer. hell they have more than three types of sushi making! Nagiri Maki and the hand rolled and Chirashi.

Okay, you've just furthering my point that if the place is busy, everything there goes to SHIT and to avoid them.

I understand food takes time to prepare, but I'm not the type who's going to wait a fucking hour for a menu. And you waited patiently for half an hour for fast food? WTF? I would have demanded a refund and left.

I know real food takes time to prepare. But having to wait over a fucking half hour for a soup entree without even someone coming to the table to take a few seconds to say "we're backed up, your food will be a while, we apologize." is BULLSHIT. It's an attitude that speaks to me "the customer can wait for as long as it takes, who gives a shit if they get upset or leave". I mean there was ZERO kindness of that regard towards the customer evident.

I mean communication would have been nice and let us know we had not been completely forgotten. This wasn't my first time eating there or in a restaurant. But when it takes a place a fucking hour to get someone a menu, WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU GO BACK???? That's like saying "Yeah, it hurts like hell getting stabbed, but I still go once a week." It's fucking insanity speaking!

What gets me is how you give an example of how the place screwed Ogre over and yet you're defending them for that bad service! There is NO excuse for that. The place obviously has a limit of how many people they can handle at a given time and over-extend themselves and take on more than they can handle every year. I do not regret not leaving a tip for the shitty service I received and I will not apologize for it.

It just is very obvious to me that the place is fine when it's not busy, but the moment they get busy, everything becomes a disorganized hell which would be best to avoid. Their food isn't good enough to endure their lunch and supper rush and to be treated like shit.

simple why would i go back

because 39 times was fantastic and the food was OMFG GOOD and the service was incredible.
thats why i waited for a hour
Thats why i know they are better than you are giving them credit for.

and for me the food IS GOOD ENOUGH TO SUFFER FOR. as far as Oger goes. i think some of it may have had to do with him with his dourness and already expecting everything to suck since it was a new place. Like when i sent him to Aldi to get some food for camp one year and he bitched that they only had Aldi Brands in an Aldi Store.

Also i have been there years previous during AC when the service was fine and dandy. an off moment for a place should not condemn them. they are HUMANS. Not Dr Who or Dalexs or Gordon Ramsey who would also be in the same situation if he was low on staff

Firstly am I allowed to bitch about a bad experience on MY JOURNAL? Or do you have to rush to defend the restaurant as if I just pissed on your step-dad's grave? As for the word Entree, the way I grew up knowing it as the meal you have before the main meal. I do not know when it changed to being the main meal, just as I don't know why these fucking dating sites started converting Voluptuous to mean large and very obese when it originally meant curvy like Jessica Rabbit or Marilyn Monroe curvy.

But if you want to wait hours to eat what you consider a mouth orgasm, go fucking ahead. But I'll never dine there again unless I know it's not a lunch or dinner rush.

What pisses me off the most about my experience was there was NO FUCKING COURTESY FROM THE WAIT STAFF. Honestly, how fucking hard is it to say "it's going to be 10 more minutes for your meal" to take a few fucking seconds to find out what the fuck is going on and give the customer who's come to give you their money an explanation for what's going on or even to fucking apologize for the delay!


I mean really, is that so fucking hard to ask? NO! Never, and I mean NEVER have I had to deal with that kind of crap of being completely fucking forgotten in a restaurant before. And if you just want to keep making excuses and shit, fuck off. If they are that understaffed and overbooked and overworked at the lunch hour and supper hour, there is NO FUCKING REASON that someone can't tell the people waiting over half an hour for their food "We're backed up in the kitchen, we'll try to have it out as soon as possible, we apologize for the inconvenience." I mean for fuck's sake, the owner can be doing that!

All I fucking mentioned was a quote from Gordon about the starter, and the way I was raised, entree and starter are the same god damned thing, and until just this fucking second on checking the definition, I see it is an older definition, yet I do not know when the definition changed on me. But there's still no fucking excuse for someone not coming out and apologizing for the delay in the food.

I've said my piece, so I'm done. If you want to keep starting things and arguing, I'll lock this for no more comments.

One because i love the place dearly. it is like you running to defend Dr Who in my own Journals is it not. which you have done repeatedly

Entree has ALWAYS meant Main Course. ALWAYS. your family screwed it up somewhere along the way not the world.

and you are going to lock this? i wish i knew i could do that when ever i say something about Atheists which also brings out your ire and (notbecasueyoudonotbeleive)Holier than thou attitude on that subject where i have not silenced you. but if this is now an option i shall rejoice.

and the reason i am so upset is i am so tired of people being so god damned entitled about everything. if you really had a problem you should have gotten up and talked to the door person. the one sitting people and handling the floor. in fact go back there and talk to a manager when it is not a convention. because they do not have that problem ANY OTHER TIME. you also contributed to it by not being active in going to the right people or asking for the manager. you sat around and waited and did not complain to the right people for anyone to even try to fix it.

Entree has not always meant main course. once again, open a dictionary! http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entree Oh look, the meal served between the principal courses. It didn't mean main course!

But no, I don't give you ire about atheists. I've stood there and taken it when you insult atheists in front of me. Not once have I insulted and berated your religious beliefs before you. I know there are militant atheists out there.

The last time we fought over atheism was over the dictionary definition and I tried NUMEROUS times to explain the dictionary definition, and how FACT that atheism and theism deal with belief in something and agnostic deals with knowing something and that KNOWING and BELIEVING are two different fucking things. No matter how many times I tried to explain it, it didn't seem to sink in when all you would have need to do is open a dictionary and realize the difference between those words.

last time we fought over it you were insisting that militant atheists did not exist. I have the journal and NO you in fact fought over the deffinition of a New concept which was Atheistic Agnostics which amazingly i have READ THE ENTIRE FUCKING DICTIONARY WHEN I WAS A KID CAUSE THERE WAS NOTHING ELSE TO READ DURING THE SUMMER. and Agnostics are defined as people that do NOT KNOW either way. and take no side. Note the take no side part. Atheist beleif is a SIDE. therefore they cannot exist as such. no matter what some urban meaning may impart. Much like just cause people said something was BAD in the 80s meaning it was badass or awesome it did not fundamentlaly change the meaning of thew word BAD. it still meant something negative.


1.
a dish served as the main course of a meal.
it also meant the beginning of an Opera. so did you order an Opera? or did you gain privilege to enter a restricted area. and also were you with Dr Who and time traveling back to before the Victorian era when it meant starter for the main meal (which is still not an appetizer. but a first course) cause that word fell out of favor for that meaning before we fought a civil war .


if you are going to site dictionaries at me better be prepared to use them correctly. like looking up word histories and not just little bits and pieces. it is a dictionary not the bible

Oh whoopee, you read the dictionary AS A CHILD. Yes, Agnostic Atheists and Agnostic Theists do exist and I've laid the following facts out over and over again to you but it never sunk in! How many fucking times do I have to say it? ATHEISM AND THEISM DEAL WITH BELIEF, AGNOSTICISM DEALS WITH KNOWLEDGE. http://www.allaboutphilosophy.org/a.....theist-faq.htm http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutag.....m/a/theism.htm

Once again, BELIEF AND BELIEVING IN SOMETHING ARE NOT THE SAME AS KNOWLEDGE AND KNOWING SOMETHING.

If you are going to try reciting definitions, follow your own words and READ THEM! http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/agnostic Oh look, Knowledge, not BELIEF. http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/atheism Oh look, Belief but no mention of Knowledge.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/theism Hmm, Belief again, but still no knowledge!
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/deism Wait a second, there's still no mention of knowledge! Do I sense a pattern here?

An agnostic theist believes at least one deity exists but that the proof of any such existence is unknowable. While an agnostic atheist believes there is no such deity but do not claim to know with any certainty the if any such deity exists or not.

Do you see a pattern here with the differences between knowing about the existence of something, and believing in something?
Know: 1.
to perceive or understand as fact or truth; to apprehend clearly and with certainty: I know the situation fully.
Believe: 1.
to have confidence in the truth, the existence, or the reliability of something, although without absolute proof that one is right in doing so: Only if one believes in something can one act purposefully.

Two different verbs with two completely different definitions. Knowledge means you have evidence, you have facts to back your statements up. Belief means you feel strongly about something but there is no evidence, no facts backing things up. Do me a favor, go back and reread the dictionary.

You know what
you screamed the loudest. I unfortunately have a life that i must attend to instead of internet shouting matches

i will leave with this though and then i shall not respond to anything from this journal again

"Entree has not always meant main course. once again, open a dictionary! http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entree Oh look, the meal served between the principal courses. It didn't mean main course!"

yet you are telling me to accept Modern Definitions as well as telling Lonewolf to also accept Modern Definitions. PICK ONE TIME PERIOD. ONE. YOU ONLY GET ONE OTHERWISE YOUR DISCUSSIONS SHALL ALWAYS REMAIN POINTLESS.

and as far as Knowing vs Believing THAT WAS THE WHOLE FUCKING POINT AS TO WHY THEY CLASSICALLY CANNOT EXIST. PERIOD. i do not care what your modern Urban Redefinitions are. especially when you are bandying about ANCIENT ONES TO DEFEND EARLIER SHIT.

CLASSICALLY AGNOSTIC MEANS WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE
CLASSICALLY ATHEIST MEANS ONE THAT DOES NOT HAVE RELIGION
CLASSICALLY THEIST WAS SOMEONE WITH RELIGION
CLASSICALLY DEIST MEANT SOMEONE THAT BELIEVED IN A GOD BUT USUALLY DID NOT DEFINE IT.
TO PROCLAIM KNOWLEDGE OF SOMETHING CLASSICALLY EVEN THROUGH BELIEF WAS TO HAVE KNOWLEDGE OF IT. BELIEF AND KNOWLEDGE HAVE ONLY RECENTLY COMPARATIVELY SPEAKING BECOME UTTERLY SEPARATE. THEY WERE NOT ALWAYS VIEWED THAT WAY. IF YOU EXPECT ME TO VIEW YOUR IDEAL OF ENTREE AS MODERN THEN YOU BETTER GET WITH IT. ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU CAN FUCKING GO THROUGH THE GOD DAMNED SUPERMARKET AND SEE STOUFFERS FUCKING ENTREES RIGHT THERE IN THE GOD DAMN FREEZER CASE. AS IN MAIN MOTHER FUCKING COURSES.

and on a personal note i will accept differing forms of atheists when they accept differing forms of religion. which they never will.

I leave you with this article stating the differences between Agnosticism and Atheism http://atheism.about.com/od/aboutag...../a/atheism.htm

Especially these two paragraphs from the article:
Agnostic Atheism & Agnostic Theism

Once it is understood that atheism is merely the absence of belief in any gods, it becomes evident that agnosticism is not, as many assume, a “third way” between atheism and theism. The presence of a belief in a god and the absence of a belief in a god exhaust all of the possibilities. Agnosticism is not about belief in god but about knowledge — it was coined originally to describe the position of a person who could not claim to know for sure if any gods exist or not.

Thus, it is clear that agnosticism is compatible with both theism and atheism. A person can believe in a god (theism) without claiming to know for sure if that god exists; the result is agnostic theism. On the other hand, a person can disbelieve in gods (atheism) without claiming to know for sure that no gods can or do exist; the result is agnostic atheism.

Oh, and I don't know where the fuck you've been eating, but everywhere I've eaten, the soup or a salad is the starter. You get that and then the main course, not at the same fucking time. Not once did a waiter or waitress come to me and say "It's going to be ten minutes for the soup, is there anything else you would prefer instead?" No! We were completely and utterly forgotten and probably would have ended up being there a whole hour if I hadn't grabbed a waitress and said "We've been here half an hour and we havn't even gotten our entrees. What's going on?"

starters all come at the SAME TIME MAIN MEALS ALL COME AT THE SAME TIME. please get some reading comprehension going on PLEASE. you refered to your soup as an Entree. Entree is MAIN MOTHER FUCKING MEAL otherwise it is an Hors d'oeuvre or appetizer.

"It took us over half an hour to even get our entrees, and they were served at the exact same time as the main meals."

those are BOTH THE SAME THING THERE! confuse people much?

It's your own prerogative, but it had to be said.

Okay, then what time limit would you suggest for a busy supper and just for the starter. Would YOU like to wait half an hour or an hour for even the starter?

Did I let on that I would know?

If you don't know, why would you critique on it? I mean 10 minutes seems like a reasonable time limit for me.

and as i said before WHAT THE FUCK ELSE WAS ORDERED!?! and if it was busy how do you know they were not making a FRESH BATCH OF SOUP! which takes time. or that perhaps that little piece of paper that your order was placed on got lost. it happens. even in fucking Gordon Ramsey's restaurants.

I spoke on what I did know about, that Reality TV is horseshit and you shouldn't trust it as a credible source on information. As for actual cooking, you'll have to ask something else.

Also, something else I know about: "critique" is not a verb.

Yes it is a verb! Open a dictionary. Or better yet, HERE: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/critique

Well, it wasn't the last time I looked it up in a dictionary, but I guess not anymore.

Or, rather, is a verb now. Then again, so is embiggen (you won't find it in Dictionary.com, so this source instead,) so use at your own risk.

Amen

*pops in 4 years later*

Actually a week after this incident, my husband and I went back to sushi kim. which is normally beyond dead and quiet.

We got a nice waiter, and yes I inquired about the fuck hole waiter from before.

He was fired for being rude to the furries that where customers durning the con.

-we did tip durning the con though, just NOT our waiter. we tipped the young waitress who we saw running her ASS off busing tables, taking care of a LOT of tables, and she tripped and fell.

we gave her our tip, and SHE's the one who helped us in the end. our waiter only showed up AFTER we had left and stared at the checks...with zero tips on them.

I think one of us actually wrote down that we gave his tip to someone else who deserved it.

I do enjoy the restruant and have been there many times since with no issue. However this was a fluke incident with the restruant in queastion. but one that should have never happened.