I wish it wasn't that bleak, but it is for many. I'd like to think that it won't always apply to you. *hugs*

Oh dear... *hugs* sometimes I wish emidietly after I graduate collage I want to move to Canada to get away from stupid America and also to met you in person and help you in other ways along the road.

Sorry about the last part... That got creepy even for me. But currently I do hate America. (Bloody democrates cant agree on anything.)

Well, the bathroom thing has always seemed silly to me. It's not, "boys/girls" It's "penis/nopenis"

But what about transgender girls who have yet to get their penis removed yet they look like women? SHould they go into the mens restroom and risk violence or go into the girl's where no one SHOULD ever see their penis anyway?

i struggle to answer this in a way that won't make you angry...

If one is growing breasts and looks feminine naturaly? I would say use the women's bathroom.

If you are taking hormones and making yourself look feminine artificially, I would say men's room.

The reason for this is, I see it as foolish to look like a girl ARTIFICIALY, before having your penis removed/vagina formed.

I suppose I don't understand what you mean by artificially. Every transgender person grows their own breasts because of the hormones but as far as looking like a girl everyone for the most part tries to do that before the sureory. SOme transgender people don't even get the surgeory because of finances. Does that mean they shouldn't look how they feel? Or in my case. I won't be getting the surgeory for around 5 years because if I do Sultry cannot immigrate properly under mirrage. Sure trans people could go to the mens room however the chances of them being beaten go up strongly as alot of men surely wouldn't like it.

And no I'm not angry. People have their opinions.

By artificially I meant people who take hormone supplements and pills.

And I suppose I don't really consider waht it's like for some people. I mean, next year, when I'm 21, I will immediately get a ccw permit, and be armed every moment of every day. As it stands I carry knives. Also, I've been a martial artist for 12+ years.

I mean, I suppose I don't realize how easy it is for physically weaker people to be beat up...

Hon, it really doesn't have anything to do with Miss Yuma being physically weaker, it has to do this the eminent confrontation of possible violence that is so unnecessary. It's not about not being able to win the fight, but the fact she has to fight it at all. It's not a problem over which bathroom she should now use, but why there should of ever been a question about it to begin with.

People are harsh an ignorant, and no amount of fire power and physical prowess will help that.

You're right. No beating will make someone less ignorant. But hit them enough and they won't wanna act on it anymore.

Very true, and I will admit to violence that I have brought down on others for mistreating me. But things are a bit different for you and I, if we get taken in for beating some asshole senseless we'll probably get a slap on the wrist and an warning. Miss Yuma could be taken off her hormones and blacklisted from being able to continue her transformation.

So how does a girl defend herself knowing it could cost her the very thing she's fighting for?

No one can take away my gay, and no one can take away your strength, but they could easily take away her entire truth. No to mention Miss Yuma's sweet temperament would be a conflicting issue when faced with someone like that.

Umm... make a big friend like you or me to go in the bathroom with her?

I get what you're saying now. I didn't know they could stop her from having her surgery.

Well think about it. Going through a transformation like that they have to monitor you sanity and if you have a hit on your criminal record that doesn't look very good.

It ahd honestly never occured to me. I don't live in an area where people are open about that type of thng. If I've known any, they didn't let me know about it, so I don't know.

Hmmm well I suppose in this case then perhaps a little more compassion is necessary. She's going through a very tough time and responses without knowledge on the problem can be a lot more more than help. I know your intentions are good, but without the proper knowledge a passing comment can easily be construed as an insult. You know what I mean?

I understand. You know what they say, "a little knowledge," but I truly am sorry. I suppport these people fully. I wish there was a better way than what there is now. I'm sorry the world works this way.

You're somewhat right that was offensive. ANy transgender person who transitions takes hormones... you realize there is NO other way to become a female right? So you are saying everything I am going through is artificial? Okay so what are transgender people supposed to do? Not transition and look like drag queens. Or perhaps they will do what so many transgender people who cannot transition do and just kill themselves.

There is NO transitioning without pills and hormone supplements. It doesn't exist. Perhaps some research is necessary.

Idunno. It's been made clear to me that I'm fairly ignorant about this subject, so I'll defer to yours and  ladymacbeth 's opinions. I'm sure you are right. I apologize.

Yuma hon calm down he doesn't understand and didn't realize the gravity of his words. He apologized and I'm sure in the future will be much more cautious. But you are going to need to understand that most people out there are not educated on what you are going through personally and ripping into them and becoming so undone by it isn't going o help anything. In fact it will only hurt you and perhaps make the situation worse. I calmly explained to him why he was wrong and that he needed to rethink his opinion, he agreed and had stated he was obviously uneducated on the matter. The little tyrant here was a bit much don't you think?

*sigh* Yeah, modern society still has a long ways to go before I will ever consider it "civilized".. <3

hun, i know a few FTM, and its equally hard for them. if you lived here we'd go out and id have the best girl in the world with me.....

The aisle thing isn't true at all. I won't let you walk down the aisle alone if I can help it.

Well, you have lots of other people who care about you, you know; your Mummy here and mate... to fill up those empty spaces.

There are also me and other people who will support you, so..?

I have to say as a lesbian none of those "Genetic Girl" quotes where true for me.

I talk to my mom about liking girls: She offered my $5k to be straight, I said no, she sent me to boarding school in Europe with Nuns.

Slumber parties: Other parents find out I'm gay they don't want me to spend the night for fear I'll rape their daughters

Prom dress: Prom dress shopping got glared at by some straight girls and hit on by some stupid boys for kissing my girlfriend in public. Showed up with my girlfriend for prom and was constantly bombarded with threesome offers and sexual harassment.

So.... it's not really that anyone has it harder than anyone else per say but the battles we each have to fight individually. And as much as it hurts, there is no point feeling self pitying because it only makes the situation more bleak. You have to learn to project the confidence that will grant the admiration and respect from others and then no one will question what bathroom you use.

It's true. All of it. ._.