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============== I'm not posting this because of any recent events that come to mind, but I [and I'm sure many artists] have had problems with things like this in the past, and I think it bears linking.
Don't complain about free ice cream. [<link]
Sometimes artists promise something and intend for it to be free. To use myself as an example, I still have a pretty extensive list of names for those free sketches I was going to do last year. I still intend to do them [and I finished all the ones I was paid through donations to finish], but life/paid work/everything has forced me to put that project on the backburner.
Thankfully, no one who requested a sketch has been entitled/indignant toward me about it!
I'm merely saying, if you request free stuff from artists, make sure you realize that artists have lives, too. Unless money changes hands, we are not working for you. If someone offers you something out of the kindness of their heart, thank them. If they end up not able to do it [soon or ever] for some reason or another, remember: it's the thought that counts. Thank them for their good intentions and move on. You can still enjoy everything else they put out in the meantime, even if it's not specifically for you.
And if you like their work enough and can afford to do it, consider commissioning them. It makes us feel really great to know that there are people out there who would pay for us to do what we love to do and for many artists, it keeps them fed!
The other thing I notice with free art offers is when the artist DOES do the work and then gets complaints that it's not what the requester wanted.
Deal with it.
As said above, you're not PAYING for it, you lose NOTHING. Just because you're a little disappointed that the pose isn't exactly what you envisioned or your character has too many spots on the left side is NO reason to look that gift horse in the mouth. The artist took time out of THEIR life to give YOU a gift. Regardless of the fact that it was requested, keep in mind that it was something they had no obligation whatsoever to complete and they chose to do it expecting nothing from you in return.
But in return, you give them criticism and complaints? That's just downright rude.
In conclusion, mind your manners, FA! Don't act entitled, don't take advantage. Be nice, be understanding and aside from the fact that it's the right thing to do, I assure you that any artist will be MUCH more willing to find the time to draw your free art if you GIVE them time, rather than demanding it of them.
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[As a side note, this entire concept is why Rarity became my favorite Friendship is Magic pony after the Suited for Success episode. She became the most relatable to me. :P]
Don't complain about free ice cream. [<link]
Sometimes artists promise something and intend for it to be free. To use myself as an example, I still have a pretty extensive list of names for those free sketches I was going to do last year. I still intend to do them [and I finished all the ones I was paid through donations to finish], but life/paid work/everything has forced me to put that project on the backburner.
Thankfully, no one who requested a sketch has been entitled/indignant toward me about it!
I'm merely saying, if you request free stuff from artists, make sure you realize that artists have lives, too. Unless money changes hands, we are not working for you. If someone offers you something out of the kindness of their heart, thank them. If they end up not able to do it [soon or ever] for some reason or another, remember: it's the thought that counts. Thank them for their good intentions and move on. You can still enjoy everything else they put out in the meantime, even if it's not specifically for you.
And if you like their work enough and can afford to do it, consider commissioning them. It makes us feel really great to know that there are people out there who would pay for us to do what we love to do and for many artists, it keeps them fed!
The other thing I notice with free art offers is when the artist DOES do the work and then gets complaints that it's not what the requester wanted.
Deal with it.
As said above, you're not PAYING for it, you lose NOTHING. Just because you're a little disappointed that the pose isn't exactly what you envisioned or your character has too many spots on the left side is NO reason to look that gift horse in the mouth. The artist took time out of THEIR life to give YOU a gift. Regardless of the fact that it was requested, keep in mind that it was something they had no obligation whatsoever to complete and they chose to do it expecting nothing from you in return.
But in return, you give them criticism and complaints? That's just downright rude.
In conclusion, mind your manners, FA! Don't act entitled, don't take advantage. Be nice, be understanding and aside from the fact that it's the right thing to do, I assure you that any artist will be MUCH more willing to find the time to draw your free art if you GIVE them time, rather than demanding it of them.
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[As a side note, this entire concept is why Rarity became my favorite Friendship is Magic pony after the Suited for Success episode. She became the most relatable to me. :P]
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It's free, if you complain about free stuff you don't deserve crap.
Then again, I'm pretty non-confrontational/passive aggressive. ._.
But yeah, entitlement...it's probably the most infuriating thing to encounter, ever.
It kind of soured the experience, needless to say.
But like, commission or free art, people should try to realize that it's not like the artist was trying to SCREW YOU because they're a jerk, it was a simple misunderstanding. I'm more than happy to change things in digital art [and traditional to the best of my ability] whether it was my "fault" or not...because I don't like getting a character design wrong. I want people to be happy with what I give them.
Acting like an entitled douche about it isn't going to make me happy about changing anything OR about wasting my time on you in the first place, though. Please and thank you are so underrated these days.
For free stuff though, I just try to do it for friends nowadays. But I kind of wanted to try 'donation headshots' lately, and I think I'll make it a clause where if you want changes, you have to pay for it and it'll be treated like a proper commission.
Honestly, I wouldn't have continued with a commission if I only had a not-even-fullbody reference and no description. I have a handy little form for people to fill out for when I do ref sheet commissions that asks about colors, markings, age, weight, height, accessories, etc. I always make people fill it out if they don't give me enough information in the first place.
It's in an easy to understand format and doesn't take long to complete, so it helps me and helps the commissioner think about their character more in-depth. Sometimes they just don't realize the types of information we need. It's not bad, just can turn into something frustrating after a couple revisions. :P So I try to nip it in the bud.
That last idea is a good one. :D
Be careful who you tell that to...haha.
Its been forever since I gave away free art. I might give it another shot now I have the balls to stand up for myself x3
is going to take a huge amount of effort. Also if you press folk, you'll just get a rushed product in the end anyway, so it's best to be nice!
But thankfully, you ARE totally understanding and nice and you will get something awesome in the end because of it. :)
thing is that you have fun drawing it. So no worries. :)
Don't you know artists are slaves?!
I've never really run into an EXTREMELY picky person, but I've had commissioners who were very particular. I try to be accommodating and flexible and encourage people to bring up any issues they have with me so I can fix them or at least try to compromise. At worst, I end up with a piece that the commissioner loves and I'm not particularly satisfied with because I think it would have looked better a different way. XD
There's a good LJ community out there to help warn artists about commissioners [and vise versa] that are exceedingly rude/difficult to work with:
http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/
No problem!
I clicked on this journal link expecting there to be some way for you to physically mail free ice cream to my apartment. >=( Now I'm really kerfuffled..
Anyways. I love the gift art you drew over me, and even if it would have been stick figures, I still would've loved it. =3
Like I said in the journal, this wasn't inspired by any recent events and DEFINITELY wasn't aimed at you. You're always super nice and deserve many gifts. :D I only wish I could draw Bade more often or maybe take a crack at Lukas since I've been trying to get practice with different body types. Ah, well. Perhaps when my life settles down a bit more, I can draw allll the free art I would love to!
Nooo, I can just save some money up and commission you. =3
Honestly I have no idea when I'll next be open for commissions. It definitely won't be until after I get my current refund, commission and trade workload done and probably won't be until after I move and get settled in a new apartment [which I don't have to do until December]. :< So it'll probably be about 6 months.
One artist I've paid for like.... 3 pieces (150$-ish in value) I've been waiting for about a year and a few months for now.
Honestly, if people whine about something that's FREE they need to be curbstomped and put on a 'do not accept' list.
-.-
I can do things fast and lower quality or I can take my time and deliver a better product. It depends on how the commissioner wants things.
This is not to say that it is any excuse for me to take a year or more on any piece of artwork because it's not, at all. One of the main reasons I'm giving refunds to a lot of my commissioners that have been waiting a long time is that I've learned it's not polite or good business to keep them waiting, regardless of my intentions. I aim to fix that problem with my business in the future. :)
Patience is a virtue and as long as the commissioner is okay with the wait and the artist keeps in touch, there shouldn't be a problem.
And with free art, it shouldn't even be an issue...unfortunately, sometimes it is. :P
So people who don't even take time to thank...I feel like they feel they deserved it and it all comes back to the number one human quality that I hate; entitlement. Thank you is such a simple phrase, it only takes 5 minutes to type out a comment that details specific things you like or to express appreciation for the thought or SOMETHING. It's not a huge deal. :| And it's so rude not to do it.
I mean, it's not even just a question of politeness. When I don't get thanked for something I go out of my way to do, that I wasn't obligated to...it hurts. It upsets me. It brings me down emotionally.
Contrarily, when I AM thanked, it makes me so happy to know that I brightened someone else's day or lessened their misery or helped them out in some way, however small.
I don't see why people just take all that for granted.
I wish there was a way for you to filter out who was going to be a douche about their packages ahead of time. But I guess once they start noting you with stuff like that, it's easy to cross their names off your list, no?
Free art for me is free good karma. If I get something back, awesome. if someone loves their picture, awesome again.
Ugh.
But yeah, appreciation is definitely a form of payment to me. If I can know I made someone smile, I'm happy, it was worth it. Unfortunately, like I detailed in a reply to the comment above yours, it seems a simple thank you is beyond some people.
I am in total agreement.
But seriously, I am finding more people are ready to give you references for free art, with no acknowledgment of being thankful until they actually get something. I am not saying they should -have- to be thankful...but it definitely makes me feel better when they say something before and I actually find myself more willing to do art for them. X_X Of course its not just that alone that sways my choice for giving free art, but it plays a role.
I guess you could say I am lucky in that I haven't had many experiences with people being picky about the free art they get. Its bound to happen at some point...even if I consider myself a "no bullshit" sort of personality.
It's not like, a big enough deal that I'll dwell on it or something, it just strikes me as sort of a rude thing to do, especially when I see them posting on every journal advertising free art ever the same exact way. It's so impersonal. Not that I'm looking to be BFFs with every random person I encounter, but dang. Like you said, I always feel more like drawing for the people that say something and act like I'm a human being.
btw: Just based on this brief conversation I'd be happy to give ya some 'free icecream!' since I am offering some now anyway. ;b
Aww, you don't have to do anything like that. I would be very flattered if you did. :D
I've spent since I could hold a crayon developing my skill. $50,000+ in SL debt. Risking permanent damage to my ability to use my hands. Though I believe good, positive, supportive followers should be rewarded, I don't want to open myself up to the few that treat me like a servant while doing so. So I've looked into other methods and focused on cultivating good relationships with people who keep it healthy.