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14 years ago
This is a log of MSN, is a bit long, but i would like all of you read it carefully, please:
Juice says:
I wanna ask your permission of something
are you busy
Zeta says:
?
Juice says:
I posted this http://www.furaffinity.net/view/631...../#cid:45812688 I hope it's okay
I gave you credit
Zeta says:
i dont mind
Juice says:
oh good :)
thanks
also you might wanna check the reply I made for Kaijufreak
Zeta says:
how can you say the game have more yaoi than hentai?
Juice says:
can you also tell me what you think of this? http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6299723 sorry
well about the game
Zeta says:
there are 5 girls
and 1 guy
...
Juice says:
the latest build like I said before was one sided, if you choose a female it's maleXfemale, but if you choose male, well it's always maleXmale
Zeta says:
because
the enemies are male
the tails implementation
is for guys/girls who likes yaoi
and what
Juice says:
yeah but when I suggested in the forum to have some Yuri in, and everyone seemed to like the idea, it never happened and you didn't like it, which is fine it's your game so I don't mind
Zeta says:
5 girls not are enough?
xD
thats not true
Juice says:
but fans won't like what's happening I'm telling you, sorry but think of it as a friendly advice
Zeta says:
there will be female enemies
Juice says:
only 2
Zeta says:
and the evil boss characters will contain female x female
but
the stages are themed
a female robot...
i dont think it would work at all
and an animal female can be a bit gross for my taste
xD
Juice says:
well like I said it's your game I understand :)
Zeta says:
and
Juice says:
I'm just saying with SOME work you can avoid the raging fans, I think we already seen what happened with V3
Zeta says:
indeed the fancharacters have to be better in the game
this game is based in a fanfiction
where the protagonist
are the R units
not the official characters
the official characters in the game, are an extra
i dont think i have raging fans
Juice says:
alright whatever
forget I said anything ^^;
Zeta says:
and after all
the fans
cant get raged
because is well knowed that the game, for the first is free, and the second, is my game as you said
no one can demand me to include something
the people knows that
Juice says:
true but they still can ignore it and not play it anymore, but then it's your game so yeah it's not a biggie
Zeta says:
i dont mind
xD
Juice says:
I don't think I'll be playing any newer versions to be honest, unless new levels intrest me :-O
Zeta says:
im doing the game for myself basically
but i share it
if someone likes it, good
if not, dont play
is pretty easy
im not winning money with the game
so, i dont mind if people play it or not
is not something i care about
Juice says:
agian you're very true Yeah
well it's your game like you said
so do whatever you wanna do, as far as I care you could remove all the good characters and just keep Zu :P
Zeta says:
we are going to do
another game
but no hentai
based on project R
and able to include fancharacters
Juice says:
that was a good game, I'd like to play that
but I hope this time you don't only make fan characters look good and think that maybe there are people who like the game and wish to play with real characters
Zeta says:
eh...
for the first
you have to understand a couple of things
zeta is the only character we are remaking, because shes an edit of megaman, and compared with the other characters, the size and movements are a bit distorted and different than the others
she really need a change
RC is remaking zu
because
he wants
im not working on that
and not was my decission
is his trouble
and for the second
yeah, pen is doing a great work with tails and the new zeta
Juice says:
but didn't I say I'll work on Amy and need no help but have your approval and to send me the maps, and you said it was still a lot of work for you
Zeta says:
but that not means the rest of my characters i did have to be remade and trash all my work
Juice says:
Pen is doing a great work I agree
Zeta says:
i know im not the best spriter, but i dont think i did it that bad
your amy style
is different
than the other characters
we dont want that
Juice says:
no offence but I really think Amy and Blaze "at least" need an extreme make over, they look like they're done by a 12 years old, sorry but I'm being dead honest
Zeta says:
well
i will be honest
you dont gonna make any char for my game
simple as that
Juice says:
fair enough, I wasn't asking for that ^^
so you just saved me the trouble
I'm sorry that I offended your work
I was just giving you an advice but you seem to be very angry about people commenting on your game
Zeta says:
i can accept critics
but not critics like the one you said right now
Juice says:
I'm really sorry
I been trying to be nice all the time, but it slipt out
Zeta says:
honestly
no one is arguing about the sprites
Juice says:
it was my honest opinion, Blaze and Amy really look bad, you may not see it but any good spriter can
Zeta says:
youre the only one doing it
Juice says:
you know why?
because 90% of people who are playing this game
are under 18 years old
they don't see these details
ask Pen and she'll be honest to tell you
So, i really did it that bad? I really want a honest opinion.
Juice says:
I wanna ask your permission of something
are you busy
Zeta says:
?
Juice says:
I posted this http://www.furaffinity.net/view/631...../#cid:45812688 I hope it's okay
I gave you credit
Zeta says:
i dont mind
Juice says:
oh good :)
thanks
also you might wanna check the reply I made for Kaijufreak
Zeta says:
how can you say the game have more yaoi than hentai?
Juice says:
can you also tell me what you think of this? http://www.furaffinity.net/view/6299723 sorry
well about the game
Zeta says:
there are 5 girls
and 1 guy
...
Juice says:
the latest build like I said before was one sided, if you choose a female it's maleXfemale, but if you choose male, well it's always maleXmale
Zeta says:
because
the enemies are male
the tails implementation
is for guys/girls who likes yaoi
and what
Juice says:
yeah but when I suggested in the forum to have some Yuri in, and everyone seemed to like the idea, it never happened and you didn't like it, which is fine it's your game so I don't mind
Zeta says:
5 girls not are enough?
xD
thats not true
Juice says:
but fans won't like what's happening I'm telling you, sorry but think of it as a friendly advice
Zeta says:
there will be female enemies
Juice says:
only 2
Zeta says:
and the evil boss characters will contain female x female
but
the stages are themed
a female robot...
i dont think it would work at all
and an animal female can be a bit gross for my taste
xD
Juice says:
well like I said it's your game I understand :)
Zeta says:
and
Juice says:
I'm just saying with SOME work you can avoid the raging fans, I think we already seen what happened with V3
Zeta says:
indeed the fancharacters have to be better in the game
this game is based in a fanfiction
where the protagonist
are the R units
not the official characters
the official characters in the game, are an extra
i dont think i have raging fans
Juice says:
alright whatever
forget I said anything ^^;
Zeta says:
and after all
the fans
cant get raged
because is well knowed that the game, for the first is free, and the second, is my game as you said
no one can demand me to include something
the people knows that
Juice says:
true but they still can ignore it and not play it anymore, but then it's your game so yeah it's not a biggie
Zeta says:
i dont mind
xD
Juice says:
I don't think I'll be playing any newer versions to be honest, unless new levels intrest me :-O
Zeta says:
im doing the game for myself basically
but i share it
if someone likes it, good
if not, dont play
is pretty easy
im not winning money with the game
so, i dont mind if people play it or not
is not something i care about
Juice says:
agian you're very true Yeah
well it's your game like you said
so do whatever you wanna do, as far as I care you could remove all the good characters and just keep Zu :P
Zeta says:
we are going to do
another game
but no hentai
based on project R
and able to include fancharacters
Juice says:
that was a good game, I'd like to play that
but I hope this time you don't only make fan characters look good and think that maybe there are people who like the game and wish to play with real characters
Zeta says:
eh...
for the first
you have to understand a couple of things
zeta is the only character we are remaking, because shes an edit of megaman, and compared with the other characters, the size and movements are a bit distorted and different than the others
she really need a change
RC is remaking zu
because
he wants
im not working on that
and not was my decission
is his trouble
and for the second
yeah, pen is doing a great work with tails and the new zeta
Juice says:
but didn't I say I'll work on Amy and need no help but have your approval and to send me the maps, and you said it was still a lot of work for you
Zeta says:
but that not means the rest of my characters i did have to be remade and trash all my work
Juice says:
Pen is doing a great work I agree
Zeta says:
i know im not the best spriter, but i dont think i did it that bad
your amy style
is different
than the other characters
we dont want that
Juice says:
no offence but I really think Amy and Blaze "at least" need an extreme make over, they look like they're done by a 12 years old, sorry but I'm being dead honest
Zeta says:
well
i will be honest
you dont gonna make any char for my game
simple as that
Juice says:
fair enough, I wasn't asking for that ^^
so you just saved me the trouble
I'm sorry that I offended your work
I was just giving you an advice but you seem to be very angry about people commenting on your game
Zeta says:
i can accept critics
but not critics like the one you said right now
Juice says:
I'm really sorry
I been trying to be nice all the time, but it slipt out
Zeta says:
honestly
no one is arguing about the sprites
Juice says:
it was my honest opinion, Blaze and Amy really look bad, you may not see it but any good spriter can
Zeta says:
youre the only one doing it
Juice says:
you know why?
because 90% of people who are playing this game
are under 18 years old
they don't see these details
ask Pen and she'll be honest to tell you
So, i really did it that bad? I really want a honest opinion.
I think you should make your own sonic fangame though, cause you're not a bad spriter.
Problem? Deal with it.
Is like if i contact you, and tell you:
Hey buddy! Your drawings looks like it was made by a 8yo kid! Try them with my style! If you do, the people is not going to call you noob anymore! But hey! dont get mad at me, im just being honest!
I think there are many forms to say the things, as i say, and i demostrate it in several times, i accept critics and try to change them if they are bad, but the thing im not going to accept is what he said, offending me and the people who play it saying those things, because if he dont like my sprites, well, my work cant be liked by all the world! im sure of that, but i think i dont deserve those words, i worked hard on them, blaze can be rushed made, maybe, i dont deny it, but you know how many animations i had to do? just me without help? thats why im asking help to other people like Pen, and obviously the new ones are better made. I didnt really mind to let him remade the amy, but, he always do her with his own taste, so, i tell him several times to modify her, because the style is pretty different from our other sprites, mentioning that we have a limited color palette for it, i just asked him that, but seems he dont accept it, i think if you really want to help in a project, you have to use the rules we all have to do the sprites, and not try to addapt them like you want, thats why i reject his sprites and he seems to not understand that.
btw, i told him to upload the conversation, to see what the people think, and he says ok.
So just to reiterate, I have no problem with their current designs, but wouldn't mind an improvement, although I wouldn't know where to start so its moot.
The game is Fine how it is I see nothing wrong with it so far x3 Keep it how it is the fans will let you know if your doing something wrong x3 *hugs*
This game is highly fetishy. It's not hard to find yuri porn. It is hard to find stomach-bulging, cum inflation, excessive cum, etc.
There's not really much you can do with yuri; fingering, licking, tribbing, all very very tame compared to the rest of this game. Unless you involve strapons and toys, at which point, why not just make it male or futa so you can add cumshots and etc?
ps: some futa would be sweet :D
tbh this is just ANOTHER person complaining about Tails being in the game. Which... I have no idea why there are so many. I thought people into fucking tentacle-bulging and shit would be a bit more accepting about yaoi they DON'T EVEN HAVE TO WATCH but I guess not. There are some people you just can't please unless you tailor-make it for them, which you shouldn't do, you should make it for yourself.
As for the discussion of sprites, I agree Blaze can look a bit mediocre compared to the rest of the cast in places but her sprites are still way above the quality of just about any other game like this save for Fairy Fighting. I think that cat girl, I always forget her name, looks a bit average too.
Amy though, I have no clue what he's on about. Amy's sprites look great and she has a lot of my favourite animations. :|
And Amy looks fine so the guy's just dumb.
That's dumb.
"but fans won't like what's happening I'm telling you"
"I'm just saying with SOME work you can avoid the raging fans, I think we already seen what happened with V3"
He gives the illusion that everyone is on his side, he blatantly makes shit up as if it is fact, and he somehow manages to liken yuri to hard vore. He then goes on to outright insult Zeta, all in an attempt to get his own sprites added to the game; which, judging from the Amy sprite he uploaded, look far more likely to have come from a 12 year old than her's.
At no point does he give constructive advice, only the illusion of mass-representation in an effort to change the game for his own personal preference and gain.
What an asshole.
He's being 'defecated' on because he was a rude goddamn asshole, and you say I'm ass kissing? I'm manipulating his opinions by directly quoting him, within context? How about growing a pair long enough to admit he was being a dickbag? Maybe, MAYBE if he took some responsibility - and maybe if you didn't white knight all over him because POOR INNOCENT GUY, HE WAS ONLY BEING AN ASSHOLE WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL - then this would've gone down reasonably.
But no. Typical Sonic fanboys, turning everything into drama because they don't get their way, because they don't get to put up a big wall between them and those 'sick fucks'. And that's what really pisses me off the most. As if someone into fucking anthro animals at all is in ANY position to call ANYONE a sick fuck, whether they're into scat, vore or PaRappa or whatever. Get off your high horse, and how about not throwing personal insults at me - I'd like to note I didn't insult you once before now - just because your butt-buddy is getting what he deserves, you worthless trash.
(no sarcasm intended but) even if are personalities aren't we are on this site and if a few non furs were to stroll in here they be like wtf?!
Fuck that. It's Zeta's game. She said no.
Fuck off.
All of the chars look alright to me to be honest.
some female enemies for the male ones would be great xD
but on some enemies looks it like m/f like with the bees ^^
just use your fantasy xD
Do they look bad? No. Do they *need* to be replaced? No. Can this guy do better? Maybe.
So if he really REALLY wants to do it,and it's not hard for you to put in new animations,I say let him make his animations,put 'em up for a vote,and if people like his better,use 'em. Otherwise,he should probably just wait til you add some kind of "add your own character" support. You said you were going to do it for the non-hentai R game,might as well figure it out with this one. Then the players can add whatever they want.
But whatever you do,he should apologize for attacking your work to try to get into making stuff for the game. That's just underhanded and manipulative. If nothing else,you can tell him to make the sprites,then crap all over his work and throw his dipshitery right back in his face. There's a difference between "I'm an experienced spriter and I think I can improve your game" and "your shit sucks,let me do it cause you obviously can't handle it and don't know what you're doing". Especially since the whole point of the game is to learn how to do it.
You're doing a bang up job,Z,and don't let anyone tell you different.
</sarcasm>
That being said, I don't believe that posting the MSN chat was a good move... You should have just asked something like, "What are your honest opinions about the sprite quality in Project X? I've had some people say they look kind of bad and I want to know if everyone feels this way." Less drama from FA users, plus better answers. On that note I do feel that all of the player sprites should get a revamp soon; the old sprites don't look bad, but they will look odd next to the newer ones. The same thing does not apply to the enemies, though; for example, Tails has newer sprites but looks just fine being "grappled" by the enemies.
Zeta is doing a beautiful job and doesnt require your help, plain and simple. The fact that you've been harassing her about this for two years pretty much removes any sympathy anyone would ever want to have on you. Also, it would seem as if you are looking past all of the times she has been saying no, maybe if you looked closer, you may be able to see it.. Otherwise you probably wouldnt know it even if it bit you in the rear end.
No, you didn't do anything bad. The game is amazing even though it's only a hit-or-rape game, even though the ones so far have had only two levels (argonaut and forest) it keeps us interested to play over and over, and like he said it's your game.
So....no. You did nothing bad. ^^
Yes the fans have input but unless said fans are throwing money at the project then their suggestions are just that - a suggestion.
"no offence but I really think Amy and Blaze "at least" need an extreme make over, they look like they're done by a 12 years old, sorry but I'm being dead honest"
Being 'dead honest'? Geez... this is just insulting to say the least. I would of rage-quitted by that point.
Zeta, keep doing whatever your doing, if SOME fans are unhappy then that is their loss, as I have a feeling that most of the fans are quite happy with the way things are going at present :)
Just my 2c :)
Blaze is well detailed, but has very stiff animation. I think it fits her character, but she could stand to move her arms a bit more, stretch during her special move, and move her eyes a bit. It's *far* from bad, but noticeably lifeless compared to the other characters.
Amy is fine. I can see what "Juice" is complaining about, but I don't think it's worth spending the time to tweak details when time could be spent on some new characters or moves.
Rouge's walk cycle really bothers me, though. It's very clunky and the frames don't appear to be aligned properly.
You could also use a copy editor, too. The English is not very good. ;)
I'm happy that you added tails, and eager to see you include Sonic in a later version. so he's an idiot if he thinks that including tails will make people hate you.
Also, it sounds like he's using the whole yaoi thing as an excuse to try to get you to include yuri. ie, female enemies. Umm... how would that work? All the enemies are either characters from the shows/games, or robots. and apart from rare ones like julie sue, there are no female characters left who aren't playable characters who can show up as enemies.
So I expect him to go on whining and wailing for a long time. "How dare she not make the game that *I* want. who cares if it isn't what she envisioned".
So keep doing what you are doing. Don't change for anyone.
Though, he does have one truth to what he said. you will get bad press for not appeasing fans. look at toonpimp's popularity right now. he's hated right now because he doesn't care what people want, unless he gets paid for it. Just a warning. but still, a bit of bad press is worth keeping your integrity. It certainly makes me respect you.
There is nothing against zu's make over, because that is a character from something different, it's made entirely by rock candy.
That amy does not match the others style.
Arms should be a little thinner up top, the boots are nice, but don't match the rest.
The amy he made is the wrong shading to match with the rest of them, there are dark shades where to match they would need light shades. The dark line shades in the rest of the cast are only used to differentiate parts. Example, http://d.facdn.net/art/zetar-02/129.....xtailsboss.gif
Could they be better? sure, but everything can be better. You remake amy to that style you would have to remake allot setting the game back a while.
"Juice says:
yeah but when I suggested in the forum to have some Yuri in, and everyone seemed to like the idea, it never happened and you didn't like it"
There are 5 girls. 2 female enemies and the boss.
so if each has two animations. 16 animations, times 5 for the amount of playable girls. Give or take a few repeaters, like amy x rouge would be the same as rouge x amy. So you are looking at over 60 animations, give or take. Is that not enough?
Not enough gay stuff. Well does zeta like gay stuff? I understand the fans may be gagging for it. But how many of the fans would hate it?
You can't win in that way, just keep it as it is.
I'm 20 I been spriting for years, you're sprites are fine, nobody is going to be inspecting each pixel while they are getting raped. No they are just going to be fapping, he is just but hurt you don't want to use his stuff.
Besides you use his stuff, he will probably hold it over your head or something, you know how people on here on FA.
You can't win in that way, just keep it as it is."
Sorry read the journal wrong
Not enough straight.
16 animations give or take, plus guy on tentacle isn't yaoi. Pretty sure yaoi is male on male, in human or anthro form. I wouldn't really count a horse fucking a fox yaoi, could be wrong though.
The game may have yaoi but seriously, that's service for the girls. I'm guessing girls demand more yaoi.
Not a yaoi fan but I understand. Many girls I know are yaoi fan-girls
in translator english:
I see that someone wants to chime in and take center stage because it made? a couple of sprites? and suggests changing everything to look good, I would consider if I show a complete set of sprites, I've done more than 5000 sprites for my game I'm not offering my services in this way, they seem honest more than is a jerk, but hey the game is in what they like the great majority.
You also have to take with a grain of salt about the yaoi comment and the female enemies, because you can't say what is all going to be in the game this early. There is a forum filled with suggestions that they wouldn't have put up if they weren't going to read it. And it was hearsay confirmed that they do read it (RockCandy pulls suggestions for Zu from there as he said on a certain chan.)
There will obviously be more than 5 female playable characters. We have 5 now. Zeta, Amy, Blaze, Zu, Rouge. We know Cream is possibly making it in. There is possibly going to be more than 1 male character, as Sonic has been shown. So maybe she meant at current we have this amount, and this is what is in the game right now.
Maybe posting the chat log was a bit much, though. All that incites is what is going on now. Even when you are angry, you have to try to show some restraint. As said elsewhere, simply asking about what the playerbase thought about the current sprites, how they felt about current content would have been enough. Using his sprite as an example, but not confirming it being in.
If you are making a game, and want people to like it and fun, you have to wonder what things they like and don't like. You can't just say I'm making it for myself, if the fans don't like it, I don't care/mind. You have to think about why they won't like it, can you change it to meet middle way, how can you retain your playerbase, etc. It's been shown before that you actually do this (the vore thing a long time ago, fixing the platform jumping over and over, among other things.) It's something every good game (and every good game maker) goes through. You are going to have critics, that is what comes with the territory.
You are doing a great job, and juice you did make a good looking sprite. That's really all any of us should have known, and should have commented on.
Again, I'm not taking sides. In the future though, I hope that both sides can come to terms.
Drama.
Animations are good, very fluent, and none of the sprites need an immediate overhaul.
That's not to say I don't hope they'll improve even further.
first off is sonictopfan sprite good? yes
Is it better? That's a personal opinion.
Are you, sonictopfan, rude at times in the conversation? FUCKING RIGHT YOU ARE.
Is 2yrs too long to wait for a yes or no answer? Well for most hell yeah, and it also means to move on, too most people.
Is it wrong to wait that long? No
Is it wrong to give your opinion? No but don't start bashing on other peoples work and not expect a shitstorm to occur of some sort if they have mad fans. And if you insult them don't apologize just leave it be.
Are people kissing zeta's ass? Well, maybe and let them keep kissing, but MOST people here are just giving their opinions on what they just read and think about you from that. If you know your not like that then why get bothered by what others type?
Do I give a shit about most of this? No because its the internet.
Zeta just do your game.
And if I think it's getting crappy I'll stop playing and let many other adults and/or tweens take my place.
I don't think the sprites are bad . . . I mean, they are sprites ^^
So long as the game plays and the sprites do their animations, everything is good :D
Not to mention it is a fan game . . . made by someone that is free . . .
Ugh. Have we come so far in art that we label good sprites from bad sprites XD
Or better made sprites from other sprites :D
I'm not a "troll" or looking for attention but I'm sure I will be labeled that once I voice my opinion about the log. And this will be the only post made in this so . . . here I go lol XD
I know no one was trying to be mean or anything but let us imagine two people talking using the exact words of the log XD
What juice typed was . . . in my opinion, mean lol XD Not that he was trying to be mean but the
"remove all the good characters and just keep Zu :P" WOAH! lol Now I can see this can be a joke statement but from previous words mentioned, in the conservation, it was probably started the down hill spiral ^^
Ugh. "no offence but I really think Amy and Blaze "at least" need an extreme make over, they look like they're done by a 12 years old, sorry but I'm being dead honest" That was very insulting especially when the previous statement was a hint of not really wanting a redo of the other characters ^^
"i know im not the best spriter, but i dont think i did it that bad
your amy style
is different
than the other characters
we dont want that"
Okay, I'm done. After reading comments and everything, I had to type something . . . I am not a friend of Juices or Zeta lol
I saw a demo of the game and it really didn't look bad at all ^^
The sprites are fine in my opinion, they moved pretty good. And Zeta had good reason to remake Zeta because of her being like uh . . .
a megaman character ^^ And she didn't want it to be distorted ^^
Considering her move sets are different than other characters . . .
why am I defending sprites and changes XD
First commenter said the best statement in the world . . .
She is not interested. Leave it at that ^^
I think I should not post this at all but . . . I don't know, I'm posting anyway! :D
It might help or just make everything worse XD
The biggest problem is that there is so much work for animations to be done when the sprites are very detailed and Zeta was alone doing all this, drawing, animating, coding.
When PEN appeared and offered help, Zeta accepted. Having other persons in your projects though is a gamble. Remember PEN could stop doing the sprites someday. What would happen then? Zeta would either scrap the spritesets or try to continue making them using PEN's style. Both time wasting.
sonictopfan, I think your Amy sprite is great, but seems Zeta's focus isn't to remake the official characters at the moment. Your criticism is accepted and considered but seems Zeta has decided her way to go.
I offered at the beginning making this in e.g. Flash using nice PNG sprites, but Zeta declined saying she wanted to try the openBOR engine and spriting. It's her decision we can't do anything else than support her. :)
"Juice says:
you know why?
because 90% of people who are playing this game
are under 18 years old
they don't see these details
ask Pen and she'll be honest to tell you"
Um, That is bashing someones work right there "sorry" to let you know . I'm sure there are a lot of people that are over 18 playing this game.
the game & I'm one of many ppl who play it.
At the end of the day, you have the final say
...not someone else. Especially someone else
who wanted their name to be in the hall of fame
...get me drift?
Also, when I first played Project X...I practically
JIZZED myself, intentionally letting Zeta gettin'
gang-banged by the robo-twins, just for the yiff of it!
That's just MY opinion though...there are many ppl that
might either agree or disagree, I dunno.
All I know is that Project X is YOUR creation...& I loved playing it!~
Zeta asked for an honest opinion
from us all as well as me.
I've given her mine. Nuff said.
As for some people calling yuri boring; I think they just haven't read anything I have lol
I've stated what I'd like to see in Project X, but I'm not going to beat that zombified horse any longer.
I'll be patient~
Project X is one of the best fan made games I've ever played that involves hentai. The story matches, the character designs (be it the old or new styles), are great, the rape animations are to me both creative and sexy (my faves are still Decoe & Bocoe's, the girl that's doing it looks like they actually wanted it), and some the two current bosses and levels are fairly challenging, especially as Zu and Amy since they're the weakest in terms of there attack power.
Heck sometimes I shut the music off and play music on YouTube, like when I did my no damage on the 2nd boss I was listening to this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NrDFQ1Urs8w
Also I challenge myself to see if I can either beat the game without getting pregnant, not getting raped or not using my 'Scape Move.
I'm still waiting for your release so we have Sonic and Cream as playable characters but I know you've got other things to worry about so just take your time.
And don't let these kind of things bug you, one persons opinion shouldn't affect you or your skills, so don't let this get to you.
All in all, I enjoy playing Project X and I hope you and your team can get the game 100% done and that it will be awesome. I give Project X a 4.5/5 and also this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rb1S.....eature=related
he have a point: the sprite COULD be better with some work, but if you do not work on it ther is no problem, the sprites are definetly not bad and they do the works, and this is good.
i can clealry see a lot of effort in this game, more than I was (cynically)expecting when i first read the wodrs "free, fan game" and similar.
but you have done a great game, full of crazy ideas and funny things.
actually I'd like to help, but the only thing i can offer are ideas, and it looks like you don't need them
just keep on with the good work
What kind of garbage are you implying. "Any good spriter would see that?" Dude. Stop taking words from other people's mouths.
If you want to be a part of the project, adapt your style to their theme. If you can't do that, it's not Zeta's fault. Getting hyped up over it because you're disappointed is just going to make you look bad in front of the SHITLOAD of loyal fans that all agree with Zeta on the matter, on just about EVERY POINT INVOLVED.
Why I have this attidude? because I know somthing you guys don't...
Zeta and Juice Never was be well with each other, they never agreed with something xD.
REALLY, they are like dog and cat(without furry xD). They are like Cat and mouse, they never get together.
The problem that those two make a drama because of that, is something that should have remaisn internaly.
IMHO XD
Anyway, I would actually think varying sprite styles would be a BETTER thing in the game. Anyway, I would at LEAST give them a try in the game and see how they work out, either better or worse, it's at LEAST worth a shot. Y'know what I mean? I'm not defending him, but I'm not advocating your actions in this situation either, just as I've told him. I mean, posting a journal about it? Definitely not a good idea, because now your <b>mindless</b> rabid fanboys are trying to tear the guy a new asshole.
In my opinion, so far, Project X is going alright, I don't see any reason to add in any yuri fanservice at this point, considering that so far, it's robots and animals. And there's plenty in Arena mode if you're playing as a female character, if I'm not mistaken. (I think... Not good at making it far in Arena mode... ^^;) Anyway, please don't interpret this as saying that you're wrong and he's right, or he's wrong and you're right, because you're BOTH in the wrong. And that's my fair and unbiased statement.
Being honest, Amy and Blaze need a mad upgrade, like he said.
But really, what he's saying is basically asking for another Toonpimp...
hate everyone fighting and hurting everyone for no good reason at all i don't mean to offend you i'm just speaking my mind over all this little drama. have a good day
(this is all based off the idle position)
Amy: while she's not necessarily bad, she can stand to receive a few changes. specifically in the facial area.
Blaze: again, not horrid. but one of her feet seem crooked, and also may want to get touched up in the facial area.
Rouge: leave her be. she's fine as is.
Zeta: just her sheer size is out of place, but you're addressing that already.
also, in regards to the "there's more MaleXMale!! Rawr!" I can see where Sonictopfan is coming from. currently, there's straight, yaoi, but only _barely_ any Yuri. it does seem kinda one-sided as far as enemy variations go, but at the same time, I can see what you're talking about. the addition of female robots would be out of place, and the addition of female animals would just be... something not desirable.
the only way I see to counter this is to make a stage featuring the stereotypical Amazons as an enemy. and that'd be just silly.
Juice: like I said it's your game
Zeta: is my game as you said
Juice: it's your game
Juice: your game like you said
I think we can safely assume that it's understood, that the game belongs to Zeta.
Don't get a bunch of people working on the game, especially not people who are unhappy about your work, because each person will want to do their own thing and then everything falls apart. I've seen it happen to hundreds of games before.