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Mosin Up For Grabs
18 years ago
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I recently got my hands on a very beat-up Chinese Mosin Nagant rifle ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosin_nagant ) and after a great deal of scrubbing, cleaning, sanding and coating, I've spent a good deal of my holiday weekend fixing it up into as good a condition as I can make it.
I picked it up from a seller for only a few dollars, meaning for it to be a project weapon and so far I think that I've done fairly well in returning it to functionality. And now that I'm wrapping it up the major stuff (I'm in the process of regreasing major parts at the moment), I'd like to know if there are any gun-furs out there who would be interested in having it.
I'll have links posted below to show you how it looks, but unfortunatly I didn't have the presence of mind to do any "Before" shots.
But trust me - it's looking and operating a heck of a lot better then it was when I first got it.
The stock was oily and sticky with old grease and grime, and most of the internal parts operated only with dificulty.
There is a great deal of corrosion, which unfortunatly I can't reverse, but I've cleaned off as much of the rust as I can without damging it and put on the last of my anti-rust oil.
I won't lie, it's still an old and fairly beat-up rifle (the rifling is in pretty bad shape from years of corrosive ammo and improper storage, and it desperatly needs to be reblued), but it's still got a long life ahead of it for anyone that wants and knows how to mantain a firearm.
It will probubly never be very accurate at long range, or very pretty to the eye, but it would be a great first-time rifle for anyone interested in backyard "plinking" or learning how to operate and maintain a firearm.
One of the appeals I have for Soviet-bloc weapons (such as the Mosin, AK47, SKS) are their robustness and ability to function despite a great deal of punishment and wear.
I havn't had a chance to take this one out to the range yet, but I've had nothing but good things to say about the Mosin I already own.
Now, I'd rather give this refurbished rifle to someone I know who will enjoy and take care of it, but I could be persuaded to sell it as well if there are any offers.
Mosins aren't exactly very hard to find in the gun market, nor are they very expecsive even when bought brand new, so the price mainly would depend on how much the buyer wishes to pay and how much they trust my gunsmithing skills.
In any case, here are some links to show you what I've got:
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010014.jpg = shows the rifle full-length with spike bayonette extended.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010017.jpg = top of the rifle, showing the open breach, bolt and rear-sight.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010016.jpg = front left.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010010.jpg = front right, showing bayonette stowed.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010015.jpg = rear left. Wood gouges and rust spots on the magazine are visible.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010018.jpg = rear right, with an appropriate round for comparison.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P10100082.jpg = this shows the stampings behind the barrel. The Bun assures me that's it's Japanese, but another stamp along the side distincly says "Made in China"
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010008.jpg = a closeup inside the breach, showing some of the rust damage. If/when I get some more rust cleaner, I'm going to try and get some more of that off.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010019-1.jpg = this shows my original Mosin (top) and the refurbished one (bottom)
Note me if anyone is interested.
D.O.P.R
I picked it up from a seller for only a few dollars, meaning for it to be a project weapon and so far I think that I've done fairly well in returning it to functionality. And now that I'm wrapping it up the major stuff (I'm in the process of regreasing major parts at the moment), I'd like to know if there are any gun-furs out there who would be interested in having it.
I'll have links posted below to show you how it looks, but unfortunatly I didn't have the presence of mind to do any "Before" shots.
But trust me - it's looking and operating a heck of a lot better then it was when I first got it.
The stock was oily and sticky with old grease and grime, and most of the internal parts operated only with dificulty.
There is a great deal of corrosion, which unfortunatly I can't reverse, but I've cleaned off as much of the rust as I can without damging it and put on the last of my anti-rust oil.
I won't lie, it's still an old and fairly beat-up rifle (the rifling is in pretty bad shape from years of corrosive ammo and improper storage, and it desperatly needs to be reblued), but it's still got a long life ahead of it for anyone that wants and knows how to mantain a firearm.
It will probubly never be very accurate at long range, or very pretty to the eye, but it would be a great first-time rifle for anyone interested in backyard "plinking" or learning how to operate and maintain a firearm.
One of the appeals I have for Soviet-bloc weapons (such as the Mosin, AK47, SKS) are their robustness and ability to function despite a great deal of punishment and wear.
I havn't had a chance to take this one out to the range yet, but I've had nothing but good things to say about the Mosin I already own.
Now, I'd rather give this refurbished rifle to someone I know who will enjoy and take care of it, but I could be persuaded to sell it as well if there are any offers.
Mosins aren't exactly very hard to find in the gun market, nor are they very expecsive even when bought brand new, so the price mainly would depend on how much the buyer wishes to pay and how much they trust my gunsmithing skills.
In any case, here are some links to show you what I've got:
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010014.jpg = shows the rifle full-length with spike bayonette extended.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010017.jpg = top of the rifle, showing the open breach, bolt and rear-sight.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010016.jpg = front left.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010010.jpg = front right, showing bayonette stowed.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010015.jpg = rear left. Wood gouges and rust spots on the magazine are visible.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010018.jpg = rear right, with an appropriate round for comparison.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P10100082.jpg = this shows the stampings behind the barrel. The Bun assures me that's it's Japanese, but another stamp along the side distincly says "Made in China"
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010008.jpg = a closeup inside the breach, showing some of the rust damage. If/when I get some more rust cleaner, I'm going to try and get some more of that off.
http://s28.photobucket.com/albums/c231/DOPR/?action=view¤t=P1010019-1.jpg = this shows my original Mosin (top) and the refurbished one (bottom)
Note me if anyone is interested.
D.O.P.R
My biggest concern though is that it goes to someone who will enjoy it and take care of it.
I'm sure there are lots of other folks who wouldn't mind getting a free rifle, but it it's just going to sit in an attic unused, then I'd rather keep it myself.
D.O.P.R
From the sound of it, you might just be the one I give it too. There are a couple other people I'm waiting for responces on, but they are all experianced enthusiasts with established collections.
If I can, it would be great to help out someone who is just starting their collection. I would have loved to have gotten that kind of opertunity when I was starting out.
Do you have any previous experiance with firearms?
D.O.P.R
Yea I have been wanting to get into this for a while now lol.
Keep in mind though, that even though I've done my best to get it into the best condition I can, it's still pretty beat up.
Plenty of Rem oil and solvent are an excelent idea to keep it as clean and smoothly operating as it can be.
Mosin's also have a heck of a kick, so be warned! Especially if you're a petite person.
But there's nothing quite like seeing the expression on friend's faces when they shoot it for the first time and go: "OW! How can you shoot [i]that[i]?"
D.O.P.R
It is still a very very nice looking rifle, I have a thing for vintage anythings so that is what caught my eye. That and the fact that its a Mosin, which are always nice to look at in the first place.
So yes if you deem me fit to own it I would defiantly love to. Just tell me all the info you need and such.
Because unless you live near Tucson Arizona, I'll probubly have to mail it.
D.O.P.R
14-409.10. Purchase of rifles and shotguns
out of State.
It shall be lawful for citizens of this
State to purchase rifles and shotguns and ammunition
therefor in states contiguous to this
State.
Here are some more I was able to find, also from the ATF website:
(B3) May an unlicensed person obtain a firearm from an out-of-State source if the person arranges to obtain the firearm through a licensed dealer in the purchaser’s own State?
A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-State source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser's State of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(3) and 922(b)(3)]
(B7) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?
A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.
[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]
(B8) May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]
May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity?
Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.
So from what it looks like, I wouldn't be able to mail it to you directly, I would have to mail it to a gun store in your area and you would pick it up from there. However, you would have to pay the shop you pick it up from a "handeling fee" or they would confiscate it and resell it.
If it's the same "handeling fee" I've had to pay before, it would be about $50, which is more then I think is fair.
D.O.P.R
I guess I will have to pass up on this one but thats okay, thank you for the offer. <3
Besides, I'd like to know how to do this just for my own referance.
If there's anyway I can get it to you, I'll try.
D.O.P.R
What I might have to do is mail it to you in parts, since the mailing of firearm parts doesn't carry the "licenced dealer" restriction.
But that would mean sending more then one package. Because I wouldn't be allowed to mail all the parts at once.
D.O.P.R
First and foremost, shipping the firearm in pieces would be legal up until you shipped the receiver. The receiver of a firearm is what is actually considered a "gun" under government law, so if you shipped it without going through the red tape, it'd be illegal. Here's what ya got to do:
Both of you need to find a local dealer in your area, one with an FFL. Once that is done, you(DOPR) need to talk to your dealer and tell him what you're wanting to do, and he will need to fax a signed copy of his current FFL to the dealer that kit has found in his area. Kit, be ready to pay a $25-30 fee for your dealer to do the paperwork and receive it for you.
It's a real pain, yes. This is the way that the government makes us do it though.
I hope I helped a lil bit. It's extremely cool of you to be doing that for somebody DOPR. Mosins are neat guns, and they do have a bit of a kick to them, especially if you've ever fired the carbine version.
It's not too hard to do really, just a bit of a hassle.
It still means that Kitsubaka will have to pay a fee, but I might try and reimberse her for it.
And of course, we'll both need to find a dealer. That shouldn't be hard for me, I know a few shops in town. I just hope she can find someone.
Like you said, it is indeed a hassle, but if that's the way it's done, then that's the way we'll have to do it.
D.O.P.R
.....what?
>.>
>pokes<
D.O.P.R
...
F*CK!
...
...now who will I get to do the dishes...?
D.O.P.R
I dearly love the K98 Mausers, and would dearly like to have one with all the stampings intact. They're just beautiful rifles.
D.O.P.R
Maybe I'll call up the history channel and see about one of those german surplus k98s with matching stamps that they keep advertising for $300.
http://www.mauser.org/
When I have the funds, this is where I will be getting my mauser (unless a differant situations appears).
D.O.P.R