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sure a lot of tracers up in here
14 years ago
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reading Artists_Beware over the past month has been very disappointing.
why do it?
why bother doing something that when found out, is potentially seriously damaging to your reputation?
that's not to say there's a problem with using references or tracing over your OWN photography/art/whatever. or using images you have permission to use in this way.
I just. I find it almost discouraging when people you admired and were inspired by, as artists, are revealed to be cheating.
why do it?
why bother doing something that when found out, is potentially seriously damaging to your reputation?
that's not to say there's a problem with using references or tracing over your OWN photography/art/whatever. or using images you have permission to use in this way.
I just. I find it almost discouraging when people you admired and were inspired by, as artists, are revealed to be cheating.
a lot of artists I've admired over the years have been outted as tracers- it's quite sad.
I am a little bit disappoint now ;_;
I got accused of tracing a car once, which was pretty confusing since the car I drew didn't actually exist. I wutted.
it's just. I really don't have words to fully describe just how 'wat' the past month and a half have been.
I can't help but wonder who is going to be next. =/
I agree with ghost001. I trace for when i need the practice. Or something like a hand position, though i take photos of my own hand lol.
Still...it isn't kool!!
though referencing is a lot different than tracing. xD
still, both are legitimate ways to learn to draw. though a lot of people do disagree about tracing being a learning tool- I have to disagree with them because I'd never have even the faintest idea of how to draw in a less angular style if it wasn't for directly going over my own self-portraits
Sad. Is really all I can form for a word. I hate that it makes me more skeptical of other artists that work in realism, I don't want to be paranoid about supporting someone that cheats, lies, or steals, even in minor cases. Just sad.
I almost feel like I can't really trust someone who draws in a realistic style unless I know them personally.
Isn't the point of art to create? Tracing and all that shit is fine and dandy for practice, but posting it as your own just lowers you on the food-chain. And I'm hungry >:l
I guess what I mean, is that when done honestly, tracing has its place in the art world; you can use it to create and further develop an existing image. you can also use it to learn[I used to trace photos of myself just to get a grasp of how the body 'flows' when you draw it].
when it's dishonest, it's honestly digusting.
which makes me really curious. note plz?
tracing/copying = NO.
*looking* at an image and translating it from your eyes, brain, to hands onto separate plane = FINE.
actually, it bugs me that people in the past have said my art looks traced- usually out of anger, but still. wtf? I'm pretty sure my anatomy is too awful for photo traces and no one else has my drawing style...
and there is no point responding to them, since they're completely blind to anything that might put their idol under a negative light.
someone else can take up the mantle of PROTECTING THE INTERNET[not IK, PLEASE].
Taking other artists' drawings or photography without a courtesy notice at the very least is illegal, and those being swiped from have every right to pursue legal action, and often have the means to, too, especially if they're published. Even if they aren't, the tracer doesn't have a leg to stand on - especially if they are selling the traced work and claiming it as their own.
It's so sad to see a lot of these artists, who can draw perfectly well on their own, stoop to such embarrassing levels. It does make one quite paranoid in terms of buying art.
another thing that bugs me is the excuse that tracing is an 'industry standard'. it's not- not in the form that that reasoning is being used to justify it. images, as far as I'm aware[and ANYONE in the industry is free to correct me], are traced/painted[on legal or personal stock] because of time constraints and having to work on a tight schedule. not everyone can paint 20+ environmental studies and concepts in just a week, while having to manage other RL aspects. you just. you can't.
so naturally, tracing has to come into play. but when you're a casual commission artist, hopping onto Google just to trace an image you have a much, much more lenient deadline on? that's completely different and completely illegal. not to mention that a lot of the tracing in the professional industry are in high demand situations with deadlines you are expected to meet; you can bet your shorts that a lot of 'greats' don't trace, but rather rely on the years of practice and study, on top of their own references.
what does 'professional industry' even cover anyway? I'm sure tracing isn't 'industry standard' in professional abstraction/surrealism. I'm also sure tracing isn't 'industry standard' in professional sculpture or glassblowing. I also don't think tracing is 'industry standard' in impressionism, either. I could really, really go one about this.
Because they probably think they won't get caught or they just don't care or that it is easier to ask for forgiveness than permission. That and reputation doesn't have much of a value in the furry community as the bar and expectations are set very low.
I've only traced as practice and only out of sheer desperation figuring out how to draw something.
To me, that's not even the worst part -- it's the fans of the artists. The ones that are giving asspats galore -- "What you did was wrong, but you apologized, so it's okay." No, it's NOT okay. It honestly just makes me angry to think about it. There is nothing okay about an artist tracing images just for their own selfish purposes. Especially the spree of ones that have been doing it for commissions. Ugh, it's.. how can they think there is anything even resembling okay about that? It fuckin' makes me sick to my stomach. :/