Why I'd rather go to house meets rather than public ones. At least if it's in the privacy of a home, it won't reflect poorly on anyone but yourselves.

This. :D

Well. I won't be attending furmeets anymore. I'm honestly tempted to maybe try and put together small dinners between friends and locals who I know won't act like 6 year olds. Something small, controllable, and more quiet and relaxed.

Does that mean you won't be at the Ice skating meet I'm trying to organize for December? D:

If its an open public event. Probably not. Especially at a place where people will probably act like idiots.

I know when I was running them. Both here and in Portland they at least were under control and I always made sure we didn't annoy other patrons. Also everyone paid and treated the staff wonderfully! Also 1000% NO drama allowed! I would boot folks that caused issues.
Daniel Lion/Oshkshfox

wow thats terrible >.>

This is one of the reasons I'm hesitant about going to furmeets in public places.
I don't like "stealing" quotes but 2 Gryphon said it just as I would: A lot of furries are awesome, kind, creative, intelligent people, but a LOT have the social skills of a Quadrapelegic Brick.

Wow. Not sure if I'm glad I didn't go or sad now, since I missed seeing what exactly happened.

Was Jess doing anything to curb this? I would point it out to her honestly that you feel this way. She might try to keep things more under control.

Short answer: No.

Long answer: I didn't pay complete attention to her during the entire thing. But she seemed to be enjoying herself and I didn't feel like starting drama at the meet. I honestly just wanted to leave shortly after getting there. Things did quiet down when the food arrives (because people returned to their seats) but after that it was completely nuts.

That sucks dude, but is understandable. Like others have said, the open meets is a take what you get, so those are going to be expected to show, but damn :/

Wow. Kind of glad I stayed home today.

I have felt pretty much every one of these things before at these or other meets. There are always going to be people who just don't get it. It's one of the reasons that I don't go to the meets as often as I used to. I can't remember the last time I went to a public, open-invite meet and didn't think to myself at least once, "What am I doing here with these people" lol.

I applaud your speaking up about it but I have little to no hope that it will do any good (at least not for more than maybe one meeting). It's cool that furry = freedom to a lot of people, but some of us forget that just because we don't always quite feel like we fit into mainstream society, doesn't mean we get a free pass to act however we want to.

Yea. I was thinking the same thing. In all honesty if my ride hadn't been enjoying the company of people he doesn't get to see often, I would of asked him if we could of left early. I left the restaurant and just sat outside the moment my check was paid for.

And the entire purpose of this journal isn't really to cause drama, though Im assuming it will. I just want people to realize that they ARE in a public setting at an establishment that LETS us be there. 99 doesn't have to let a group of 30+ attend or put up with us. They're nice enough to do it. We should show them the same respect they show us.

To give you an idea of how bad it was. There was about a 5 booth buffer between us and another other group. And then the booths were practically full up. They'd crammed people as far away from us as possible so that they could at least attempt to enjoy their meals.

I'm offended. It is my god given right to be a jackass in public and scare away everyone else. I'm an entitled furry. Plus I'm 16 so I know more then you.

I had to stop going to the local meet because they would meet up in a local BBQ joint with ears/tails/sex shirts on... in Texas. So I fully support you, and hope the ones who ruined it learn a lesson.

Eh, I know I'm only speaking for myself and didn't really see what others were doing while at the 99. One thing that I could think of as to why it was that crazy was not only because we had the largest attendance this month.....but also because of a wide range of new people coming in not knowing whats ok and whats not ok. I know it's something that should be common sense, but when you have people looking at the actions of others and thinking its ok since no one else is saying anything about, its could be hard to "control the masses" unless you have a much more mature and responsible person say something. I could completely understand people moving from table to table since there are so many to catch up with at events like these, it can be really hard to be confined to just one small area. Though at the same time you are absolutely right, everyone should sit their asses down in their own spots whenever the waitress needs something from our group, ESPECIALLY when she needs to take all of our drink/food orders. Though for all the other things you mentioned you bring up really really good points, even I may have not personally witnessed it. I can completely understand if people are acting like family-friendly jackasses here, assuming its nothing too gross, perverted, distracting, or very loud. But yes, the things you listed are not ok for people to be doing. And seriously, talking about adult material??? If I heard something like that from someone I would've called them out, nobody (furry or not) should be talking about stuff like that in a public restaurant.

A couple other things that I could suggest. First, only associate yourself with the people you actually know and are close to and that you trust...........or at least those that you know enough to not act like a rude retard in front of you (lol XP). If you sit with people who knows very well how to behave themselves and have fun at the same time, it would be much more enjoyable for ya. Second, if you see something that goes out of hand, speak with Jessica about it. Since she's the one that started all these meets and tries to organize things to the best of her abilities, let her know of the things you mentioned and how she should be more stern with the people that are causing too much trouble. If the staff members had an issue with us yesterday, they would have mentioned it to Jess and tell her the things that would need to change if we were to still have these meets. But it would still be good to talk with her anyways just so she could be aware of how others could see things through different perspectives. I'm sorry hat you didn't have as good of a time yesterday and hopefully next month won't be hectic this time.

Eh. Thank you for your support and words.

This is really just me ranting, though. I didn't bring it up at the meet and I don't feel like bringing it to any more public attention then I already have. I'd just rather not attend anymore rather then make a stink out of it.

If it gets any larger or any more wild next time, though, I'd be alarmed if the 99 didn't complain. Did you notice the massive buffer of space between our group and the nearest people who were dinning? Not to mention the rest of the place was crammed full.. they were only putting people on our side when they had too, by the looks of it.

As for the last part, they've been doing that every month at least to my knowledge and observations. Its practically common since to separate a large group of people from the rest of those eating at the restaurant, just so it would be easier for the staff to differentiate between those that are apart of the group and those that are not apart of the group. Otherwise it would be even more confusing for them to get the right orders to several people.

I will say on behalf to the staff, they were able to organize splitting the checks much better than the previous time and it was much easier for the main woman that takes care of us. There were times in the past where the group was so unorganized with regards to the checks, heck a few people forgot a certain thing that they ordered at times, so after having all the checks out and having to redo some of them, it was more of a hassle in the past. Yesterday the group knew exactly not to order anything else after she printed out the checks so in her mind it was probably an improvement in terms of service wise. Though chances are she didn't see or hear some of the things going on, which was most likely a good thing cause I'm pretty sure she would say something if she heard someone talk about furry porn. XP