maybe they are just afraid that they couldn't mix indie and AAA titles the same way steam does and would end up having a bad reputation on the marketplace
or maybe they just really think of it as "indie", like very small projects

got no clue, but there must be a reason behind it
thankfully nintendo is starting to support them

my main concern is accessibility, before I could navigate towards the indie game sections easily and check out the newest games, as well as they were sorted in genres, which was nice and easy, now they are just a big blob, just like the video showed.

I don't think their sales would get hurt, nor I believe they have anything to be afraid of, but meh.

I don't really know about them that much except well..some can be fun.
I know I'm glad there cheap to buy than Arcades. Even though no Achievements can be won.But rewards in the game usually.
So yeah they should of gave them a chance to stay on the dashboard.

they still are, just too deeply buried, meh >:U

XBLIG can not connect to the Internet
They aren't licensed the same as regular XBLA games, which is a heck of lot more expensive to do than going indie.

XBLIG can not have Achievements, nor use the term
And I believe this also relates to what I mentioned above.

XBLIG can not have high score Leaderboards
This also relates to what I said above.

XBLIG can not charge more than $5 for a game
Indie games on XBL are considered budget titles, so they limit the price to $5. If the game is over 50mb you're actually required to charge $3. Want to charge more? Sell on Steam.

XBLIG can not be played offline
This is actually a security thing. Because the games aren't licensed by microsoft or rated by the ESRB or PEGI(if you're Euro) somebody could put up a pedophilia-based puzzle game and somebody could download it, and if someone downloaded it before the game was taken down they could be playing it offline. But because the games are linked to your live account they require you to log on to play them.

XBLIG can not be played by a non-Live account
This has to do with the games being linked to your account and not with just the system, so I'm told.

XBLIG box art / titles do not show in the friends list when you are playing an XBLIG title
It's because they aren't officially licensed by Microsoft. It will list what you're playing as "Indie Game". I don't get it either considering Steam will say whatever you're playing regardless.

XBLIG titles do not show in your game history
Are they referring to online or the system? They show up on my system's history so I don't know what that's about.

XBLIG titles are separated in the Marketplace from other games
So are addons and things like buying t-shirts for your avatar thingy. You just have to search for it.

It's true that they made it harder to find the indie section on the new dashboard, but I was able to find it rather quickly by going to the "genre" section and selecting indie. Of course they're going to market the on demand and arcade games more prominately since the companies who are selling those games have to pay more to license them for that category.

the only point that actually concerned me was that they are not that accessible, sure, anybody looking for them will eventually find them but if it requires more than 3 clicks, it's a design problem, before it wasn't bad cause if you wanted demos, or arcades, the indies were right there under the games tag, simple.

also, you select "genre" and go indie, welcome to the big blob of over 2k games, have fun looking for the one you want .___.

MS developed XNA, made developers subscribe, a paid subscription, to make games that they can take the 30% from the sales, just to bury them under too many layers.

That's BS :p

It is BS and I don't understand what they were thinking(or they knew exactly what they were doing). I think the main secret to getting an indie game for XBL popular is by advertising it through online trailers or other means than their main page. You can still go to the Xbox website and search the indie titles instead of browsing through that giant list. Most of the indie games I bought for it were not found by searching on my system.

I am afraid it is like you say =/

Wow that really unfair. I rather play indie games then the big mainstream games. Since indie games are so much to play. Why is XBOX doing this? They are basically going to lose money.

Gosh, I heard some people saying the indie situation for xbox was bad but... I didnt think was THAT bad, so much crap o_O'

Only way to make a decent indie game for Xbox then is if you win "Dream, Build and Play"?, that would make you have a little more of support on their part, I think, but still x_x