Fuck Advertisements
14 years ago
General
Moo!
first posted here: https://plus.google.com/u/0/1044413.....ts/gaYryascdWf
Advertisement.
I hate you, so much.
At its core, it isn't such a bad concept. Tell people who will probably want your product or service about it, so that they get what they want.
But in implementation it has become something of a monster.
The first problem is the nature of advertisement, Trying to convince people to buy things that they don't need, whether they want it or not. This at it's core is mind-control and a severe form of manipulation. In my opinion its un-ethical when it is done without explicit permission.
A EULA does not count!
If I order your magazine, that is explicit permission.
If I /request/ your email notifications of hot deals, that is permission.
If you find my email or address somewhere on the web, and sell it to another corporation, who then uses it to bombard me with trivial bullshit. THAT IS NOT PERMISSION.
The second problem with it, is brand recognition and propaganda. "Our brand is better, because its not their brand." Every few days I hear the "Coke vs Pepsi" debate, somewhere on the internet, or offline.
This is a false ideology, this is tribal warfare for the sake of taking your money.
Is one better than the other? No. (for which I will be harassed, I know it.)
Are they significantly different? No.
Are the corporation's particularly different in their behaviors? No.
The third problem, and probably the most troublesome. Advertisements have become more complex, heavier, and more technically invasive. At first it was just a link, and maybe a static image. Perhaps a bit big, but frequently unobtrusive. But as the web grew, there came Geocities and the atrocity that was animated gifs (Yes I know geocities had nothing to do with animated gifs...but anyone who was a web resident in those dark days should remember the horror. For all you youngins out there, here is a far subdued taste: http://www.lingscars.com/ )
Then came javascript and embedded Java applets. A java applet would frequently crash browsers or an entire computer because it didn't know when to stop gobbling resources.
Back in those days ctrl+alt+delete did not bring up task manager usually, instead the computer would just hang, so you had to salute again to reboot. Talk about a pain in the arse.
But a few -months- seconds in to that hell came the first drive by trojans.
And the face of the web changed forever.
Flash just added to the problem, replacing java applets with an even more insecure format.
Then javascript became more robust, more powerful, and suddenly internet explorer was a minefield. Going on the web was taking your computer's life in to your own hands. I switched to FreeBSD at that point for a while (But that is a story for another day.)
Today I surf with adblock+ and noscript turned on, at all times. Internet explorer is a great browser to go download an alternative. I stayed on firefox for quite a while until it started becoming the target; I was waiting for adblock+ and noscript to emerge on chrome.
Now I'm on chrome, and I'm just waiting for the target to be fully acquired and require me switching to something else. In this game you cannot win against malice unless you keep changing, keep evolving. The moment you stop changing is the moment you have to -reinstall- nuke your operating system from orbit, because its the only way to be sure.
There are many people who try to say not to use adblock because the sites you visit need money. My counter to that is, the site needs money? it should find a way to pay for itself without harassing its customers and putting their lives at risk.
This is my way of voting with my wallet, if enough people block a site's ads, eventually the site will have to find a new source of income. It hasn't worked yet, but doesn't mean I wont stop trying. If one or two sites fall over due to being unable to keep up with the changing environment, well, that's just too bad.
And in summation; You wouldn't fuck a diseased crack whore without a condom, don't surf the web without proper precautions.
Advertisement.
I hate you, so much.
At its core, it isn't such a bad concept. Tell people who will probably want your product or service about it, so that they get what they want.
But in implementation it has become something of a monster.
The first problem is the nature of advertisement, Trying to convince people to buy things that they don't need, whether they want it or not. This at it's core is mind-control and a severe form of manipulation. In my opinion its un-ethical when it is done without explicit permission.
A EULA does not count!
If I order your magazine, that is explicit permission.
If I /request/ your email notifications of hot deals, that is permission.
If you find my email or address somewhere on the web, and sell it to another corporation, who then uses it to bombard me with trivial bullshit. THAT IS NOT PERMISSION.
The second problem with it, is brand recognition and propaganda. "Our brand is better, because its not their brand." Every few days I hear the "Coke vs Pepsi" debate, somewhere on the internet, or offline.
This is a false ideology, this is tribal warfare for the sake of taking your money.
Is one better than the other? No. (for which I will be harassed, I know it.)
Are they significantly different? No.
Are the corporation's particularly different in their behaviors? No.
The third problem, and probably the most troublesome. Advertisements have become more complex, heavier, and more technically invasive. At first it was just a link, and maybe a static image. Perhaps a bit big, but frequently unobtrusive. But as the web grew, there came Geocities and the atrocity that was animated gifs (Yes I know geocities had nothing to do with animated gifs...but anyone who was a web resident in those dark days should remember the horror. For all you youngins out there, here is a far subdued taste: http://www.lingscars.com/ )
Then came javascript and embedded Java applets. A java applet would frequently crash browsers or an entire computer because it didn't know when to stop gobbling resources.
Back in those days ctrl+alt+delete did not bring up task manager usually, instead the computer would just hang, so you had to salute again to reboot. Talk about a pain in the arse.
But a few -months- seconds in to that hell came the first drive by trojans.
And the face of the web changed forever.
Flash just added to the problem, replacing java applets with an even more insecure format.
Then javascript became more robust, more powerful, and suddenly internet explorer was a minefield. Going on the web was taking your computer's life in to your own hands. I switched to FreeBSD at that point for a while (But that is a story for another day.)
Today I surf with adblock+ and noscript turned on, at all times. Internet explorer is a great browser to go download an alternative. I stayed on firefox for quite a while until it started becoming the target; I was waiting for adblock+ and noscript to emerge on chrome.
Now I'm on chrome, and I'm just waiting for the target to be fully acquired and require me switching to something else. In this game you cannot win against malice unless you keep changing, keep evolving. The moment you stop changing is the moment you have to -reinstall- nuke your operating system from orbit, because its the only way to be sure.
There are many people who try to say not to use adblock because the sites you visit need money. My counter to that is, the site needs money? it should find a way to pay for itself without harassing its customers and putting their lives at risk.
This is my way of voting with my wallet, if enough people block a site's ads, eventually the site will have to find a new source of income. It hasn't worked yet, but doesn't mean I wont stop trying. If one or two sites fall over due to being unable to keep up with the changing environment, well, that's just too bad.
And in summation; You wouldn't fuck a diseased crack whore without a condom, don't surf the web without proper precautions.
FA+

what other means can a site use to pay for itself?
I know of none other than advertisements.
Another big one is actually incentivizing the members to pay, though most attempts at this fail horribly, but simply, provide a free section, and a pay section. Do not cripple your free section, but just provide enough incentive to want to pay. But most companies who try this get greedy and attempt to milk money out of their customers.
A great example of this is the huge free to play video game market. Tons of these games out there, and they stay lucritive. Many of them in fact revived after going to a freemium or free to play standard. D&D online did, Champions Online, Hellgate. all those games started as a monthly payment, then went under or nearly went under, went to free to play, and suddenly took off and earned far more money than they had at the start.
And then many sites provide services in two categories, free for private and educational use, pay for corporate use. That dynamic works extremely well also.
then there are plenty of webcomic artists out there, who take donations, and get plenty from fans, enough to run their site, and have extra money.
sometimes, I think, they just have to resort to advertising.
I don't think everyone out there who uses ads either hasn't thought of other alternatives, or are just trying to put people at risk.