I don't think it ever does.

Yup, I know first hand

*sigh* my parents were never even married and they fought all the time (then i went to college so he never had a reason to be in the house again)

*petpet* its tough, it really is, you feel like you're caught in the middle but really its just them not getting along. They're angry and upset and have the right to be, but its not right that they do it over their kids heads. tried counseling?

I try to make the best of it that I can for my son. Being three, he doesn't understand why his mother is living with man that isn't his daddy, and he's always asking me if I can go to his mothers house It kills me.

I tried counseling for myself when I was still married, I wanted my wife to do it with me but she was too wrapped up in her affair (which I was willing to get over if she had just stopped lying about it) to even bother trying to fix our marriage. I'm on medication now, sans counseling. Work, school, and weekends with my son take up all of my time and as long as I stay busy I don't think about things :-P

man that's tough. There is counseling for kids too, yes even that young. Its so hard to explain it to kids, they really are caught in the middle. But speaking from experience, even though you may be angry at her (hey i don't blame you) talking negatively about her around your lil one will not help him. I hope she has the sense to not talk negatively about you in front of him.

(3 is the average age that kids start developing long term memory, so from here on out, what is said and done will start to have lasting effects on him in terms of him being able to remember it)

Heh, funny story.

I ended up in a snow bank several weeks ago while driving on some rather slick ice (I refuse to acknowledge speed as a factor!)and I had the kid in the car with me. He thought it was the funnest thing ever. I had to call my father to come pull me out with his truck and now every time we drive down that very section of road my son says, "Daddy, Papa's gonna pull you out!"

It cracks me up every time

awww that's adorable!

I feel your pain. I'm torn over whether i want to stay with my husband or not.

To sum it up, it's always something else with him. Another women, this, that, do this housework, not this. You raise our child, but you do it my way, yadda yadda yadda.

He also want an"open" marriage. Where he can screw sluts all day long, but i better keep my legs closed. And not beg him for any. Oh wait, i already do that..*mumble mumble*

I'm willing to go to counseling, but he wont pay for it. And i really think all the "problems" are him. It's a shitty thing to say, and i know i can be difficult, but the things he says and does are outrageous.

And he's one of those, "oh your a mother grow the hell up take out your peircings get your tats covered up grow your hair out dress and act"normal" kind of guy.:

But, i think i'm trying so say, it's tough. But you'll pull through. Same as I.


Take care.

I'm diagnosed with Major Depressive Disorder and faced with that fact most of my problems, the mood swings, the anger, impatienance, anxiety, the self mutilation, my general sense of apathy and listlessness... all became justified. Well, not justified, but explained. She fails to recognize them as symptoms of a disease and instead refers to them as a "poor me" attitude. That everything is my fault and that "I had my chance."

When I first started medication things got better, for a short time. I took great steps to get therapy and counseling, and tried to work on us. I never saw her for what she trully was until I got better. I realized she had no intention of helping me and just brought me down. Her instance to continue an affair despite the fact that she now knew what was ailing her husband just goes to show what kind of character she really had.

We got divorced on a Tuesday her boyfriend moved in Wednesday, yet she still insists she was faithful until the end. Despite seeing them making out on my porch with my own eyes and despite seeing a hicky on her neck several weeks later (we hadn't even separated at this point), she still insists there was nothing going on.

I'm glad that it's over. I'll be much better off without her; my concern is reserved for my son though. He has to suffer her influence much more than he is being exposed to mine. I just hope that he retains his brilliance and follows through with his education like I did. He has too much potential to let it go to waste in her hands.

I wish you good luck with your marriage no matter what you decide to do; it's a hard place to be.

Thank you for the well wishing, it's much appreciated.

I think the most problematic of mine is the OCD. It just drives my husband nuts. But, i'm not spastic all over, he wouldent be satisfied unless i was unthinking, unfeeling, and uncaring. Just one of those keep the house clean watch the kids not give a shit he cheats and give him all my money and ask for nothing in return kinda wives.

And that is really, really sad. How is it that people like that are so good at hiding who they really are?? Is it just waiting for the right moment to move in for the kill, or is it some other reason?? Unfortunately, people like that outnumber people who are worth knowing, many, many times over.

I just hope(and if i did such a thing as pray) that your ex- emotional leech doesnt brainwash your son into thinking that your a bad person, or crazy, or whatnot. It seems like one of those situations where you give her anything she asks for, or else she'll screw you over for everything you have, and you better not ask her for anything in return.

I have such a hard time understanding how people can treat their own CHILDREN like pawns in a game. In the end, nobody wins because we all die. But bah, i should be happy i dont understand how some people take pride in such petty things.

I'd really like to talk more in depth about these things with you, if i's alright ^^ Our situations seem quite similar to me.

oh, you don't know how similar...

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