this far yet behind... help?
13 years ago
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so ive been on DA / FA for like 3-4 years now and still looking at other pages that have been on for less and all ready have hits in the 100,000 and some time there work well umm... not the best and getting hits that high. and i have some many pepz say why arnt you popular like the others and i try my best to get my #'s up. so im asking you the fans to help be more noticeable. but thats if you really think im am worthy to be noticeable, i think that im am middle class to all the top pep out there, but still think it would be nice to be more noticeable. i really dont like asking to for help on my popularity, i thoght it would all speed up after a few years but still i a bit behind.
so im asking if you can post a Journal Entry or tell about me if they what to see a new artist they may like. i do a bit of every thing, so that should work for a big # of pepz.
this is such a cheet way of doing thing but im down to my last last resort of trying to be noticed.
thank you for helping, only do it if you feel like im that good to be noticed more.
your friend PHATION / RUdragon
PS sorry so acting and talking like this, i just feel i work to hard to get no were.
this is why i want to be known:>>>
and the reason why is to live off of what i make as in comics and commissions, thow its hard to do them when my #'s are low and so i have to post every day to get more watcher and when it keep at at a high of preveiws i can work on my stuff with out posting for days know when i do i will have 100's or 1000's waiting for my next pice or when my comic come out, so when that happens my porjects will be slow till then.
so im asking if you can post a Journal Entry or tell about me if they what to see a new artist they may like. i do a bit of every thing, so that should work for a big # of pepz.
this is such a cheet way of doing thing but im down to my last last resort of trying to be noticed.
thank you for helping, only do it if you feel like im that good to be noticed more.
your friend PHATION / RUdragon
PS sorry so acting and talking like this, i just feel i work to hard to get no were.
this is why i want to be known:>>>
and the reason why is to live off of what i make as in comics and commissions, thow its hard to do them when my #'s are low and so i have to post every day to get more watcher and when it keep at at a high of preveiws i can work on my stuff with out posting for days know when i do i will have 100's or 1000's waiting for my next pice or when my comic come out, so when that happens my porjects will be slow till then.
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Draw porn and fetishes. :V
Porn always gets you views no matter how bad it sucks XD.
You do amazing work as it is! It just takes time ^.^
But soon you will have THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS of views/watchers
I prefer to keep my page clean too! XD
A lot of those people with lots of views have specific reasons why. Like someone else has said, porn(no matter how badly drawn) gets attention. So does fanart of something popular at the moment or something with a rabid fanbase. That or something niche like the fetishes or something seems to bring folk in, but doesn't keep them.
Trust me, you're fine the way ya are. The hustling thing couldn't hurt though. But I have to ask this:
Why do you want more people to look at your stuff? More feedback? Or is it something else?
Because if you want more feedback or critique or folks to bounce ideas off of, I'd say you have a good chunk of watchers for that and other artists out there who like your stuff enough to maybe reach out to you. Idunno. Open a bigger line of communication like a formspring or something and you may get what you want. You might be more popular than you think and the audience just isn't speaking enough.
and the reason why is to live off of what i make as in comics and commissions, thow ots hard to do them when my #'s are low and so i have to post every day to get more watcher and when it keep at at a high of preveiws i can work on my stuff with out posting for days know when i do i will have 100's or 1000's waiting for my next pice or when my comic come out, so when that happens my porjects will be slow till then.
hopfuly that ancer your Q?
^^
besides that i dont really know other ways besides drawling porn. i try to keep most of my stuff clean because i dont really want to be a pron artist. even though just like you i wish to be viewed more, just for different reasons
Also, it's been said, but don't go the porn route, that's just a cheap way to the top and then you'll only be noticed for it.
Also, you should do trades or something like that. Having people draw your characters is a great way to get noticed and it's benificial for both you and the person you are trading with.
Wow... kinda long winded there.
now my comment:
RU i will try to get you out there but other people probally have friends who spam their pages or something either that or people who havnt seen your stuff have no taste ^_^. i will help get you out there if you would like ^_^
porn isn´t necessary if you are a great artist... =D and you are
Sorry for bad english xD =P
If it helps at all I really love your work and I can't wait to see more of your ideas as well as others come out on canvas.
Lol I wrote another book, and I pretty much know that you might not read this because it is long. Sorry for not being a better friend.
I know peeps want pronz but f them, there is plenty of more pronz out there.
Your art is beasting man beasting.
I'll look on your page a bit, but how much is it for a commission? What are the payment methods? I'll try to help out if I can.
and you are a great artist. :P very unique style, and you do your own thing :3
i will tell my friends about youu, and my watchers ^_^
Take for example, draw a few furries laying in the grass, naked. They just lay there looking at the sky, talking, laughing and imagening what mysteries might be hiding over the clouds. And you make sure their private parts are showing, but not erect. People like these things, and it will give you more views. And you will ceep your page clean, because it wont be porn. it will beautiful art.
One thing I did notice but don't use as much as I should is that it's best to submit new art during peak hours around 7-9pm Eastern time so more people see it on the front page. Art trades could work too.
I'm in your same boat. I've improved phenomenally as an artist in the past 5 years, but popularity definitely doesn't follow the same curve.
As you've said, there are artists with basically crap that get a ton of attention. At the same time, I've seen RIDICULOUSLY GOOD artists (Industry professionals and such) with absolutely no attention.
Interacting with your community is key. I'm not entirely too sure if that means answer to every comment - or perhaps making journals often/talking with people/meeting others, commenting often on other people's work etc/favoriting/watching etc.
Being consistent is also key. Posting works every so often doesn't work out so well. Posting at least SOMETHING every day will probably get you a more consistent audience.
Subject matter is always important. I personally enjoy actually LOOKING at an image. Character pinups are awesome and all, but I appreciate narratives in a piece. (This isn't a critique on you). However I notice character pinups seem to get even more views than good art more often than not. laaawl.
It's really weird, I can't explain it - and I'm not experienced enough to really know what the general audience likes. People don't know enough about art etiquette to care about it - Which is sad really, no one knows what they're really missing out on.
Character design/themes also seems to be another important thing. Obviously fan-art and the like get a ton of attention. But if you are consistent with your characters/subject matter you'll eventually have your own little thing going. You're doing a great job at this with your characters. I just think you might need to simplify them down a bit more. Really make them a SOLID character. Think of the iconic characters we have now-a-days, Mickey Mouse/Mario/Pikachu etc. It'd be worth screwing around with at least :)
I personally really like what you have going on. I think you should mainly just worry about improving (not that you're bad. Every artist needs to improve.) The attention will come in time. You'll do something amazing, everyone will notice it, and the love will come. Of course, in order for you to improve/do something amazing, that would mean you need to start adding variety the the things you're doing. Go outside your box. Try a graphic approach. Try elegant/designy. Try messy/loud.
I understand wanting to be internet-famous as a source of income. But it's not that easy. There are a lot of unknown variables and LUCK is just one of those things too. Get a side job if you have to. But i suggest just keep doing what you love. Trust me, it SHOWS in your artwork when you love what you're doing. Any trained artist can see it on the spot, the general audience notice it too, they just can't explain it.
Collabs/free art/art trades too. But who really has time for those x_x
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The best way to get noticed probably is to do some trades, commissions, and I hate to say it, but requests
It's not bad to do art for yourself, but the thing is, you are only advertising yourself. You need to give people the opportunity to advertise you, such as
They only drew one commission for me, and then got a surge of notice from people who watched me
Other than **teh pr0nz1!!1!**, doing lot's of streams, gift art, art trades, collabs [iScribble, OpenCanvas sessions, the list goes on...], requests, etc, etc, will definitely garner you some attention.
If someone asks for advice, feedback, or critique, give it to them.
Pop into other people's streams, you'll never know where your next request will come from.
Many artists basically 'bribe' people to pimp the artist's profiles in exchange for raffles/free art, where the returns and opportunities will grow exponentially as you gain more exposure.
But really, at the end of the day, regardless of whether you're making decent money off your art or not, pageviews/watchers =/= a ranking, and never will be.
To be completely honest I envy your skills, and I don't see anything apparent you should be worried about. Just keep up the good work.