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Message to the ME3 "fans": Enough is enough.
13 years ago
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NaNo Novel: Here Falls The Thunder
I just recently had a friend of mine come to me (No, not of you, I have friends outside of FA, you know ;P) who came to me upset recently. He tried to have a rational, reasonable, calm-minded discussion of the endings. No insults, no flames. And unfortunately, it devolved into a mess.
People in the anti-ending camp stated the pro-enders were idiots, didn't play the game for the story, and in a few cases were retarded.
People in the pro-ending camp stated the anti-enders lacked any sort of imagination, were narrow-minded, and couldn't think for themselves, but had to have everything explained to them.
Apparently now your stance on the endings also makes you more or less of a fan as well. That same friend of mine was browsing FA and found this journal here, with a statement that made him a little upset:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3281263/
"Ending likers" just play the game for the action. No time to think about stuff, just play through and go back to #insert any COD-title here".
"Ending haters" reflect on what they are experiencing, read the codex, play the game with lore in mind. "Ending haters" take a part in the wonderful world.
My friends response to this was, when he spoke to me: "So, despite the fact I played through all three games, liked the characters and the stories, and just happen to be okay with the endings, makes me LESS of a fan?"
My response was simple:
"No."
Indeed, the fact this fiasco has gotten so heated as to devolve into pointless and hurtful elitism shows just how ridiculous the fans have become. And I say fans to include everyone.
There's no requirement that you like or dislike the endings to be a "true fan" of Mass Effect. And being a member of one side or the other doesn't make you any less of a "true fan" either. You should never believe that the opinion you hold makes you anything more or anything less than someone who olds the opposite opinion.
The only people here who aren't real fans, are the people who think that there needs to be a line drawn in the proverbial sand. Who think that it's perfectly reasonable to say you're better than someone else over the opinion you hold.
If you find yourself questioning how much of a fan you are, then likely, you are a fan. You don't have to explain it, or defend it. If you enjoyed the game (regardless of the ending), you're likely a fan. If there were moments that touched you emotionally (again, sans endings) in some way, then you're a fan. If you're someone who thought "Just one more side mission", or "Just one more talk with a squadmate" and then found yourself still playing after it's well past 3am, then you're a fan.
tl;dr version: You stance on the last ten minutes, regardless of what it is, does NOT determine your place as a fan. Don't let ANYONE, ANYONE AT ALL, make you feel otherwise. And if they try to tell you otherwise, brush them off.
No "true fan" would treat their fellow fans in such a way. No one's opinion decides what sort of fan you are.
People in the anti-ending camp stated the pro-enders were idiots, didn't play the game for the story, and in a few cases were retarded.
People in the pro-ending camp stated the anti-enders lacked any sort of imagination, were narrow-minded, and couldn't think for themselves, but had to have everything explained to them.
Apparently now your stance on the endings also makes you more or less of a fan as well. That same friend of mine was browsing FA and found this journal here, with a statement that made him a little upset:
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/3281263/
"Ending likers" just play the game for the action. No time to think about stuff, just play through and go back to #insert any COD-title here".
"Ending haters" reflect on what they are experiencing, read the codex, play the game with lore in mind. "Ending haters" take a part in the wonderful world.
My friends response to this was, when he spoke to me: "So, despite the fact I played through all three games, liked the characters and the stories, and just happen to be okay with the endings, makes me LESS of a fan?"
My response was simple:
"No."
Indeed, the fact this fiasco has gotten so heated as to devolve into pointless and hurtful elitism shows just how ridiculous the fans have become. And I say fans to include everyone.
There's no requirement that you like or dislike the endings to be a "true fan" of Mass Effect. And being a member of one side or the other doesn't make you any less of a "true fan" either. You should never believe that the opinion you hold makes you anything more or anything less than someone who olds the opposite opinion.
The only people here who aren't real fans, are the people who think that there needs to be a line drawn in the proverbial sand. Who think that it's perfectly reasonable to say you're better than someone else over the opinion you hold.
If you find yourself questioning how much of a fan you are, then likely, you are a fan. You don't have to explain it, or defend it. If you enjoyed the game (regardless of the ending), you're likely a fan. If there were moments that touched you emotionally (again, sans endings) in some way, then you're a fan. If you're someone who thought "Just one more side mission", or "Just one more talk with a squadmate" and then found yourself still playing after it's well past 3am, then you're a fan.
tl;dr version: You stance on the last ten minutes, regardless of what it is, does NOT determine your place as a fan. Don't let ANYONE, ANYONE AT ALL, make you feel otherwise. And if they try to tell you otherwise, brush them off.
No "true fan" would treat their fellow fans in such a way. No one's opinion decides what sort of fan you are.
But everyone has their own looks and many people were in an uproar.
Don't go pissing around on other people's journals, saying how they are sily for being upset, because of course they are gonna snap at you if you act all high and mighty. People are stupid yes, fans often especially so, but what you are doing is just... sad. But anyhoo, peace and all that shit. Take care.
I don't have any kind of personal judge, nor do I think Von is silly for being upset. But he shouldn't say that because people like the endings that they're bad people. Von's welcome to be upset, that's his right. He doesn't like the endings. I respect that. I don't respect him demeaning people who happen to share a different opinion than him.
That you think this is over some personal grudge means you've missed the point.
We're ALL fans of the series. We shouldn't be insulting or attacking each other over the opinions we have.
"If you find yourself getting upset by someone's opinion over Mass Effect 3?
Take a deep breath, and remind yourself it's just a game. Don't ruin friendships over it." ?:D
"It's just a game"? That's how you respect our opinions? Great job there! Absolutely fascinating! I do wonder why you'd spent so much of your time, nerding around in the net, playing fictional characters based to the world of those games. Buuuuut...I do hope you'll get over this and that your broken heart heals. And you know, friendship that ends so easily, was probably dead already for a loooong tiiiiiime. Everyone is allowed to have their opinions, true, but how does your behavior help to end the drama and anger? You're an adult, in fact you're much older than me, so it's quite funny to see you behaving like this. Um, anyway. Gonna let you continue your... "fight/mission against the mean fans (Von)" or what the hell you call it. If you wanna continue this conversation in private, we can. Though like you and Von, I think you and I stopped being friends ages ago. If we ever even were that!:D
And you're right, likely if the friendship ended the way it did, it likely wasn't going to be a lasting one.
And there probably isn't a way to end the "drama and anger". It probably won't end until one side or the other gets what they want. But again, fans shouldn't tear into each other over it.
I'll be okay though. It's disappointing to see it happen, but I'll get over it. Wouldn't be the first time this has happened, and I haven't broken down yet.
Hey buddy, it IS just a game. That's kindof non-negotiable.
I respect your opinion. And I'm sorry that 2 years of being friends ended the way it did.