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13 years ago
“Why is it that when one man builds a wall, the next man immediately needs to know what's on the other side?”
― George R.R. Martin, A Game of Thrones I feel pretty blessed. My mother came and surprised me and said that she would help me pay for a new computer. One of these days I'll post a picture of the computer I was using xD There was nothing wrong with it, per say, except for the fact that it was immobile. An immobile laptop... oi. Anyway, so long story short I was able to get a new laptop this weekend. Found one that can play the games I want and it didn't cost an arm and a leg. Now I just have to get everything moved from the old one to the new one. So after everything is said and done, I hope to be a bit more active online since my computer will be more accessible now!
So I'm also looking for advice on how to get more business... Right now, I don't have much time to have a heavy workload, I'll admit, but in a couple of months my art might be the only income we have as my husband will be between jobs. He works a union job, so there may be a time where he's off for a month or two at a time and when he's home I hope to be able to take on a heavy work load.
I know I am at one huge disadvantage that I can never go to cons... So I can't advertise that way.
I suppose my other question is, how long did it take you to get a decent work load? How much of an online presence does somebody need to have to get a steady work load? For somebody that offers traditional and digital, what is the one that customers typically choose?
Ah, I know I'm pretty much asking other artists to spill all their secrets, so I can understand somebody not wanting to answer all the questions, lol. But I'm terrible and economics... I failed it once in highschool, so I'm trying to get some tips on how to play the business game.
So I'm also looking for advice on how to get more business... Right now, I don't have much time to have a heavy workload, I'll admit, but in a couple of months my art might be the only income we have as my husband will be between jobs. He works a union job, so there may be a time where he's off for a month or two at a time and when he's home I hope to be able to take on a heavy work load.
I know I am at one huge disadvantage that I can never go to cons... So I can't advertise that way.
I suppose my other question is, how long did it take you to get a decent work load? How much of an online presence does somebody need to have to get a steady work load? For somebody that offers traditional and digital, what is the one that customers typically choose?
Ah, I know I'm pretty much asking other artists to spill all their secrets, so I can understand somebody not wanting to answer all the questions, lol. But I'm terrible and economics... I failed it once in highschool, so I'm trying to get some tips on how to play the business game.
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Good luck!
Try advertising on these groups in dA (if you have one), anthro-commissions and paypal-commissions. Also try
be active in the community. post often, and more people will see your work. try to post a few times a week, and experiment with posting at different times if possible. i find that generally when i post a piece or two, i end up with a few more watchers. if you want to take on art for employment, you should already be drawing as much as possible in order to prepare for spending a large part of your time drawing for money. this will not only help to fill out your gallery/portfolio & increase your skills, but also show your watchers that you can produce art on a regular basis. commenting on others work and being more active/friendly helps to build connections/friendships/network which will help you to get business and build up a good reputation.
advertise. there are plenty of communities on livejournal that will allow you to advertise your commissions. posting journals here are helpful and informative, but many people may look over them - so consider posting a graphic into your gallery as well. if you can afford it, and/or if you are able to build up a small queue of commissions where this would be affordable, consider maybe purchasing ad space on FA. i haven't done it myself but i hear it can be quite helpful for the price. also consider posting some stuff on furbuy/furbid/whatever and see what other customer base you may be able to tap into.
price in a way that is fair to you and your customer. if you are offering traditional commissions, be sure you factor in your material cost AS WELL AS your time cost. it is hard when starting out, because so many new artists sell their work for so cheap. it may seem like its too hard to compete, but please don't do this. trust me - i've done it before and i always regret it. you want your work to be affordable, but you also want to be able to afford to continue to create it! make sure you are getting paid for your time. try and time yourself with some different types of "products" and figure out how much you want to be paid per hour. at least make sure you are making more than minimum wage :)
set goals. figure out how much you want to make per month (or per week) and make sure that you are able to create a sort of workload that can reach that without wearing yourself out. set deadlines for pieces and try to stick to an agreed upon turn around time.
good communication. set up a commission TOS, so that your customer is aware of what you will or will not draw, how your commission process works, an explanation of your pricing or services, as well as explaining if/when refunds are available, how people can pay you or anything else about how you handle technical aspects of business.
as for digital vs. traditional, it really seems to be split 50/50. offer what you would prefer to create. traditional is generally more expensive because of the material cost & shipping.
I think one of my biggest problems (other than getting more customers) is charging too low. Sometimes I feel like I'm really underpaying myself but then again I don't think I have enough demand to set too high of prices.
Although I really like your idea of having cheap commissions & more expensive commissions. I tried doing more of a ladder with my prices (IE $3 increments between sketches, lineart & color) and I'm actually finding out that I'm kind of screwing myself that way. But then again, I'm really stuck between figured out prices because of the lack of demand.
Ah, it can all be so complicated! I suppose the best place to start is adding more to my gallery.
How successful have you been with just selling prints? Have you tried selling prints?
how is it that you're screwing yourself over with the ladder pricing? is the time still a major factor?
maybe try offering pieces in different sizes to create a price range, rather than a different medium/process part.
i have been successful (as in, i have sold a few) in selling photography prints on etsy, however i have had absolutely no success with selling art prints here. perhaps, however, that is because its something i haven't marketed much & also perhaps its because i do clean art.
Thank you again for any advice. It's nice to hear from people who have been doing this for a while. Way back in the day when I was super active commissions weren't nearly as big as they are now. Back then it was all about art trades.
consider occasionally having sales or specials where you'll take commissions for ___ theme or ____ size for ____ special price for x amount of time to gain interest & keep your self challenged.
AND DEFINITELY MAKE A ToS. It'll help you a lot with keeping people from asking you a lot of unnecessary questions and make you look more professional.
Also she didn't mention this, but try out communities that are non-profit too, like art exchange groups and themed groups. dA and LJ are both good for this, but FA has a few too. A new one that I found and like a lot (granted, I haven't gotten commissions from it but it's still publicity) is
I'm not a success by any means either (really, REALLY not...) but I hope this helps you out.
And agreeing with Gh0st again that when you post your prices, you should aim to have a lot of variety, as much as possible. Also you should try sales and specials too!
Thanks again for all the links! I'm definitely going to check them all out. <3