Oh Jack, I don't know what suggest...! ;w; It's not you though, this is just the lot of life a succeeding musician has. They're really busy. Not enough time to really talk much about professional components or advice about music theory, production techniques, or just general directing advice. I've got a couple of musician friends too and they're... Like, really flaky about talking to people for more than a few minutes. They're just VERY busy people unfortunately. Some even a bit introverted and have a hard time talking with people... :< I wish I had something more to say in the way of helpful to your frustration. I just kinda know the same thing you're going through to some extent and wanna let you know, it's not something about you.

You love your music, yeah? Then just keep on doing what you're doing and forget the rest. The people who want you will come to you--they're the friends/fans/fellow musicians that you want anyway because you don't have to beg for their attention or feel like a dog (not in the furry sense) in their presence. Just trust your music.

I've just come too expect people too have very short attention spans. With popular artists, you have too remember there are probably 10 other musicians that are calling for their attention to and doing some non-music activity like talking with them over a drink, hanging out and other activities can help with leaving an impression and them actually sitting down and listening too your music.

I know I'm pretty busy myself and I try my best to listen too other musicians including you and I think I'll start some journals spotlighting other up and coming artists, even though I can't really say I'm very popular either (my submitted music averages 35 views only).

My best advice is to keep hammering away and improve your expertise. Even if you sub,it a song and it doesn't get many views, it's still a learning experience and adds to your portfolio, ^^

Personally, I've been really lucky at finding great people who are glad to help me with my music. I probably don't appreciate nearly as much as I should.

Well, I for one absolutely love your music. I could try to help if you'd like, but I'm less experienced and I'm not the same type of musician as you are genre-wise. But I can try if you want- having an extra pair of ears is never a bad thing! But anyway, if at anytime you want to trade music/exchange comments, I'd be game for it.

I may not be a musician, so I can't really help you on that front, but I've certainly seen what you mean about people seeming unwilling to devote more time than it takes to just look at a picture. Writers suffer from that same problem, and it's very difficult to get someone to sit down long enough to read a story.
If nothing else, know you do always have some few that are happy to listen to your music.

You're not really doing anything wrong, it's just that a lot of people haven't discovered your musical talent yet. Just remember that patience can definitely pay off.
Also, I'm almost always open to listening to music (even though I definitely spend more than an hour listening to tracks sometimes).

Yea, since a lot of the people have covered the friendly generics, I'll just be forward with you.

If you're here looking for numbers, you might be on the wrong site. The simple truth is that people come here looking for art, it's quick and easy. Trying to get them to actually take the time to listen to musicians here is a bit of a chore and a losing battle. I'm not saying that's ideal, but it's sort of the way it is.

If you're simply trying to network with other artists and to get feedback, that's pretty easy to do on average I feel. I've actually met a good few of the people I've met on here in person, and they're fun to collaborate with and have good creative input when you ask them for it. However, I think in general if someone feels like you're only talking to them to hustle your music onto them... it's harder to start a relationship on that kind of basis.

If you're just looking for creative feedback and a community here, you can definitely find that. If you're here trying to play a numbers game with page-views however, it might be the wrong place. There's lots of little things you can do to promote exposure: collaborate, interact with others, submit to the musician spotlight... But overall, I feel like you should just make the music you like. Gradually, people who like what you're creating will come your way, and you can start having a tight-knit community of people who really care about what you're doing. It just takes time. (And, as a note it does seem like you're doing alright at this point for musicians on here; 90 views on your last submission ain't nothing to scoff at).

I quite like your music; got your albums when I heard them, and been listening to the stuff you've uploaded since then. And you've definitely got a solid foundation and style. I would just say worry less about the size of the audience, and more about the music itself, because that's what we-the-listeners are here for. If your only goal is to create a large following however, a lot of my views up there ^ are a moot point. If it's just a popularity thing for ya, you can do things like upload lots of covers, people on average are more liable to click on something they know already than something strange and foreign.

I hope this doesn't come off too blunt, but I felt that you should at least have one reply that functioned as an objective 'state of affairs' deal. Best of luck with however you decide to approach it.

^I think that totally sums it all up.

Are you following me? XD I totally have your page pinned from a couple of days ago, with the intent to check out your music today.

haha, we're just two music hounds here on fa seems like :p

Ha, probably so. I think it probably also helps that your icon stands out so much, it's pretty hard to miss. XD

You're not being blunt. :3

What i take issue with is when I speak to others and they tell me they wouldn't mind taking a look at my work, and then they close off communications with me. It makes me feel like I annoyed them somehow, and then I feel bad, and then I'm stuck wondering what I did to offend. That makes me feel like a peon ;_;

Believe me, I'm going to continue growing my library and writing tracks for a while!

Sounds good.

Yea, the only way I feel that you can effectively get around that sort of thing is that you usually have to become friends with people first. If that's a priority and you're getting along well, then people usually don't mind/have interest in checking out your stuff and helping out where they can. If you try to point them towards your music up front (Even with your super polite synopsis in the original journal post) it kind of makes it feel more like work, something you're doing for someone else and not so much as a mutual thing. A lot of people don't mind that sort of thing. But a lot of people also do. Sort of a coin toss for internet relationships on that front.

Anyways, if you want to talk music, feel free to hit me up. I'm using Reaper and FL currently... and a stupid amount of plug-ins.

He does have a pretty valid point though, if you go up and say "hey, could you listen to what I made and tell me how it sounds?" out of the blue, there are a lot of people that will ignore it because they feel like the only reason you want to get to know them is to get their opinion on your songs.

ME: "Hi, I love your music, I've downloaded/bought your albums and I think they are really top notch!"

THEM: "Well thanks."

ME: "If you get some time, can you take a look at some of my work and tell me what you think? I could use some help in (specified area) and I'd love some of your feed back."

THEM: "Sure! I'll do that!"

And then I never ever hear from them again

I could try helping out if you want! I use a different program than you, is one of the problems (I think you use FLstudio, yeah?) but we can sure as heck talk VSTs! I've been curious what ones you use and stuff! We can talk loops, too, I dunno if you use any. x3 Note me if you're interested and want my AIM or something. I'm on there sometimes! There is the fact that I'm not really that good, though. My mixing is awful, for instance, so I dunno how much any feedback I could give, when you've got like /really/ good mixing skills. xD

This is both online and at cons I've been to: I've taken time to create CDs of my stuff and hand them out with promises of people who say they will listen, but I'm sure they're probably just ending up in the trash or forgotten in some dusty bin for crap.

Yeah, that one is one I have a problem with, too. x.x; I don't know how to really... get my name out there. I have no idea how people like Foxamoore or RenardV got so popular. Even though I make jokes as to them having artist friends or getting porn-y commisions to boost popularity, I don't actually think that is the entire case, although it honestly might help. :\ Sorry that I'm not much help, having the same issue, really. :S

omg i love all the vst samples you use and I've been wanting to know what they wereeeee.....

WE SHOULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO A COLLAB. :O

OMG! I'd love that!!!!!! I know one way it's doable! I can import mp3s into Mixcraft, so what we could do, is you could finish your half, and then send me it, n' tell me the BPM, and I can add stuff! I can tell you VSTs, too, if you want! :D Like, if you get a hold of me, you can tell me which ones you're looking for and stuff. :D

Oh! Want me to note you my AIM, too? I'm on there sometimes! :D

I get this all the time. And in general. I don't go around telling people to actually listen to my stuff, it's a matter of choice in the end. What I go for is meeting new interesting different people each day, and most of them just abandon me out of the blue, and I never hear from them again. I'm a shy kind of person and a bad conversation starter. I think that's part of what I'm missing. So far, the only person I've met here that has kept in contact (and in fact, we're now best buddies) is . He has been around for me at times I've felt like there's no hope in trying to find people. I've lost that spark I had for music experimentation, but I still do it. I'm looking forward to talking to you guys more, and to keep in contact too! I'd love some new friends, and good musicians while at that. I'm a busy, absent minded kind of guy, but I never forget about friends. Even if it seems I'm away doing something, I let everyone know what I'm up to, and I'm never completely out of touch.

I hope I can get to talk to you guys more!!

I'm a busy, absent minded kind of guy

Oh my God, you're a male me! D:

But in all seriousness, it's always nice to meet someone new! I don't ever have too much to say, but it's nice to say it to someone friendly when I have somethin' to say at all! x3

Hehehe, who knew? :P Yeah, I feel the same way most of the time. :c

^Foxamoore (On top of being an amazing pianist) is the music administrator on FA. So, that coupled with his amazing abilities, collaborations with other big name artists (Both musical and visual) keeps him at the forefront of the music radar here. It's well-deserved, and it's typically unfair to compare others popularity here to his because of that. XD

Yeah, I know. x3 Hence my mention that I was jokin' when I say those things. He is quite the musician, indeed.

I concur. :D

Why shouldn't you push people to listen? You're the only person who is going to promote your music, at least be persistent about it.

...let me just start by saying the following: Most people on FA are weird. Not for what they're into, but more for how they are... It's really hard to explain beyond that, though. But know that its not your fault.
Anywho, I wish I could help ya out with your dilemma. Personally, I do enjoy your music, and I do like being able to comment on each of the submitted pieces like I do with my buddy :yagamifoxclaw:. Not just to offer due praise, but to also offer suggestions on current or future pieces, and even point out things I noticed about certain songs or albums. And I certainly don't wish to see any of that music on any sort of decline. If it helps any, I'll do what I can to at least send more listeners your way, and hopefully someone will be willing to stay connected with you in regards to your work. Also, sometimes its not a bad thing to humbly ask for help...even if it sometimes seems like one is "begging for scraps". At least you're not like "My work is awesome, so you should bow down before me" or anything. XD

^This. :D