Haaaaaaaaa. Table formatting. That brings back memories.

I have a serious question, I've never understood why <table> tags are seen as abominations. Why is that?

Tables shouldn't be use to control the layout of the whole page. Not saying it can't. But <div>'s allow so much more freedom, to control the layout of a page.

It will also allow for "plugin" like themes. Allowing you to change the layout of a page, without touching the html code.

- Using <div>'s = cleaner/less cluttered coding.
- <divs>'s allow more flexibility and better designs.
- Unless you're a wizard with CSS. Tabular layouts (Tables) will always look ugly ^^'

And with HTML5 coming into the picture, <divs> are even more flexible.

It's hard to explain... for me anyway.

I strongly disagree. Working with DIVs can be a real nightmare, because they don't shrink-wrap content like tables do, and they can't always use relative measurements (percentages, for example). I have tons of problem where content will spill out of its DIV container and obscure other content, especially if you change font sizes. The solution? Hard-code to a specific screen resolution.

If you're hard-coding a web site to work only in one resolution (or use a lot of JavaScript trickery, like InkBunny does), then DIVs are fine. If you want a page that adjusts to the screen, DIVs will keep you up many late nights. And that's before you start trying to accommodate each browser's broken implementation of CSS layout.

Don't even get me started about nesting DIVs. There should be no need to have containers 20 levels deep when you could define a "menu" element instead. The reason why we're still hacking away at idiotic, complex menu code is because HTML and CSS are horrible abominations, and nothing can be done about it at this point. Or at least, the commercial companies in charge don't want it to change (it might shake up the régime).

With that said, yes, the FA banner could certainly be done better. Not having IE7 compatibility is an embarrassment. However, a good design is not as simple as it seems, especially if you want it to be resolution independent.

The other nice thing about letting the CSS do all the work is that bots/webcrawlers, automated readers for the blind, and other things that aren't browsers being viewed by humans can get a better idea of what they're looking at. Plus you end up with HTML that's clean, organized, and easy to figure out if someone else further down the line has to go in and make changes.

If you've seen the beta page layout and when it was "live" for testing. The coding was a lot more clean. No more tables!

PS: WOW! Just looked; What a mess the layout looks in IE7 >.<

There's the serious consideration of not perpetuating the use of IE if it can be helped. Why cater to a browser so dedicated to doing everything the "wrong way?"

Because for one thing, some people are browsing from someplace where they don't control what browser they use. and 99% of those places use some form of Internet Explorer.

And anyway, I figure screwing over IE users on purpose just because you consider it backward is like putting magical spike strips on the roads that only cause flats on American cars.

Want to know what's even sadder?

that there are people that still use Internet Explorer.

you're an admitted zoo... your opinions are thusly invalid.

so, they're lies? really? because i got that from your profile information. saying you don't get off to animals is kinda hard when you've got badges on your FA profile that say otherwise.

*hard to believe... typo on my part.

so, then why have it on your page where people can misinterpret it?

i can understand loyalty to a friend but that doesn't mean you should sacrifice your integrity to do so... and to be blunt, yes, i will admit to being a bit trollish at times but there are many people like me that won't be so "kind" (as you probably already know.)

okay... but just be aware that if you're trying to avoid being called a zoo, having that there won't help your position.

Plus your work has been perfectly anthro.

Speaking of your work. Is "escape" officially over? I'm guessing you wouldn't want someone else picking it up.

Well all I have is a small group of new characters, some sheep herding shenanigans, and a few cases of mistaken identity leading to somewhat violent circumstance.

Can't believe I missed so many cameos.

Thanks for the offer.

Man I suck.

But that evidence can be considered "swiss cheese".

I'm not really sure why this is using z-ordering in the first place. It's very rare that I've put together a website that needs z-index specified anywhere.