Attn: Artists
17 years ago
Have any of you guys ever had someone obsess SO MUCH over one of your characters, that it gets to the point where you kinda.. lose the desire to ever draw the character again?
Either because you figure this obsessor is gonna wig out and never leave you alone, or just because you are so sick of hearing about said character because of this person?
Just wondering.
Edit: Not that I hate fans or anything, far from it! But there's a line of ettiquite I think that comes with it, and when you step over into 'psycho, obsessive, unrelenting freak' that's just scary.
Either because you figure this obsessor is gonna wig out and never leave you alone, or just because you are so sick of hearing about said character because of this person?
Just wondering.
Edit: Not that I hate fans or anything, far from it! But there's a line of ettiquite I think that comes with it, and when you step over into 'psycho, obsessive, unrelenting freak' that's just scary.
I also have a thing for Six. ;)
*shakes his head like crazy* Guh! Now look what you did, you made them look like girls! 0_o;
And I showed my friend some of your Zelly pics, and now he absolutely loves her, too.
I'll be honest, though...I do miss seeing Roger. :) Though I can totally understand why you're taking a (permanent?) hiatus from him.
For instance, "I like your character's feet. *awkward sniffing roleplay*" gets the shit ignored out of it.
"I can totally imagine my character sticking his dick into your character!" gets something along the lines of "I think she might just stab you instead."
I do want people like my character, being the attention whore that I am, but shit... lines must be maintained.
Slightly different from what I'm ranting about in this journal, but man, how I hate those types of comments too.
I really.. REALLY don't need to know what sort of perverted things you would like to do to my 2d drawing, THANK YOU. Nor do I need to know about the boner they popped looking at the pic. TMITMITMITMIIIII~
Or the ever popular "U SHOULD DRAW THIS CHAR NEKKID WITH HIS PENIS HANGING OUT INSTEAD". Or comments along those general lines. >/
I'm glad I'm not the only one that gets creeped out by that.
You just don't hear about it much because it's rare that anyone tries that approach short of 'omg you sick freak go die!!!!'
I'm all for respecting lines too, but when you're posting porn (or erotica), some stiff things and fluids tend to go with the territory. Yes, some people lack the social sense to know inherently that not everyone wants to HEAR about their fan's boner even if they did do something that tends to cause them. But most of those people are capable of keeping it to themselves if they're told it's unwelcome in a civil manner.
those are the ones that get me.
either way, there should be some respect for the integrity of characters.
I am a casual acquaintance at best to my commenters. What sexual practices, especially odd practices, you wish to perform with persons real or imagined is really close to the top of my list of things I don't want a person to say. Think it all you want, but use your inside voice. Your inside-your-own-head voice, that is.
That's why lil' Nath's appeareance changes quite a lot from time to time.
But that 1% is fulla art theives, tracers, psychotically obsessed nuisences and-- I kid you not, identity theives.
I had some dude IM me a year or so back like he was an old friend of mine, but I'd never heard of him.
It seems he had an interenet relationship with someone pretending to be me for like 6 months or so, and was contacting his 'ex boyfriend, Jax', to catch up on old times.
AKWARD.
But as for getting fans, I think it's tricky for some people, especially in the furry fandom as it is such an artist-based fandom. There are a LOT of artists, and a lot of AMAZING ones, so a lot of other artists get overlooked. I've been drawing since I was three, posting art on the net for 12, and posting among the furry fandom for like.. half that.
Ribeye.. only a couple people ask about him, so nah. That doesn't bother me -at all-.
If they are getting to bothersome though you can always block their FA account right? Of course this doesn't help if they're bothering you on a messenger. =/
I mean, I love drawing and showing my stuff to people who enjoy and appreciate it, but in the end, I think I'm drawing for myself. Unless it's a commission of course, but you know what I mean!
Or maybe it's some connection to bara and stuff..
Or maybe, its just because the furry fandom is really.. really gay. Seriously. Only a small, itty portion of my characters are gay/bi. The rest are straight as arrows.
Anyway, it is really said to see a few people completely ruin it for an artist. Especially when its your own creation. My characters are all really important to me as I'm sure they are to you, but I can understand how grating it must be with a bunch of people obsess over them. It would ruin it for me too :
One thing that bothers me though is that when one of my characters does anything sexual with someone else's character, they treat it as if they've scored with me in real life.
Zelwulf and Jax were the first two characters of yours that I saw back in 2003, Zelwulf being the one that caught my eye. I drew fanart of both characters, but I kinda left it at that. I don't look at the drawings every single day or create lovers for them :P
I guess one thing I could suggest is to have a heart to heart with the person with the obsession and ask them to tone it down. If they can't control themselves or respect your wishes as the owner of the character, then make it clear you'll block all ways for them to contact you. I'd hate to see you stop drawing a character all together because there are far more who would be denied seeing him or her.
Hopefully everything works out.
But as for this person-- they don't speak english. I've tried telling them to chill out in english and thier own language a hundred million times. I've had other people, people who speak her language tell her. I started nice, but now my patience has worn thin and I'm being blunt and to the point. She started as an art tracer, tracing over my pics of said char and calling them her own, but thankfully that seems to have stopped. I've gotten her banned off DA 237216381 times for tracing and general harassment.
Blargh.
Hmmm....I see, so the polite way has been futile. :/ That's really shocking that she still continues to act that way after having multiple people speak to her.
I think I remember seeing (or reading about) someone tracing a character of yours (Knut is coming to mind) a long time ago on DA....I think they changed the colors to black and red, but I think you were aware of it at that point. I don't remember their username though.
Goodness.....that's frustrating. I wish there were more effective ways to put a stop to obsessive behavior like that, other than taking care of each incident as they come up, because that gets so time consuming. I'll ask around and see if I can find anything helpful because I'm drawing blanks at the moment.
She's been quiet for a while, at least to me. I've heard she still messages other people hounding them for pictures of this character. But she peeked back out of the woodwork again. x(
It's incredibly frustrating. And I try to be civil and not turn into one of these 'rude, stuck up artist' types, but some people!
Ah well!
....anymore, that is....
... I had this one guy on Deviant Art that had a total heart attack after I took my gallery down to move it to another screen name. He made a hate journal and everything. It was really stupid -_-;;
I ended up just reuploading everything...
Seriously.
Not to mention, he'd ripped off my character and was always asking me to draw me and 'his character' meeting or interacting.
I'm just not going to take BS from a 13 year old...
that sucked pretty hard.
i can understand how it is to have someone just really... REALLY get under your skin. like, apparently, someone's been RPing my character on some yiffchat(?) O-o i don't really care much about it otherwise it was just really weird to me that someone would do that.
And yeah, I have bumped into a few people doing that too. It.. annoyed me.
any for people stealing characters... well i don't care but please PLEASE try not to butcher them for the life of me >.< at least give the artist some credit right?
'Cause my main was the character of choice for weird creepy emails, PMs, and IMs. ;-;
.... but I still draw her. :D
I WANTED TO DRAW THE ANATOMIES OF IT
I WANTED TO DRAW THE ANATOMIES OF IT
I WANTED TO DRAW THE ANATOMIES OF IT
I WANTED TO DRAW THE ANATOMIES OF IT
I WANTED TO DRAW THE ANATOMIES OF IT
I WANTED TO DRAW THE ANATOMIES OF IT
I WANTED TO DRAW THE ANATOMIES OF IT
I WANTED TO DRAW THE ANATOMIES OF IT
IDIOTA SU MAGNUS
GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
I guess it's flattering at first, but then after a while, like you said, it gets creepy.
I don't blame you for your feelings about this.
I hope I don't get to that point... no offense of course.
And thank you for the kind words.
I think it may be partly that she doesn't speak english that makes it 374623846824 times more infuriating.
I do have a fancrush on Zelwulf though, inasmuch as I just think he's cute.
I read every single comment I get, even the stupid ones, but the internet is the easiest thing to just pretend it isn't there.
I am so creeped out when they want to talk about the turtles' feet or their BIG MUSCLES and THROBBING ERECTIONS.
Urgh -_-
It's one of them Koopa bros you drew a while back. Either that or Roger.
For me, I guess it would be kinda flattering to have someone obsess over one of your creations, until they get creepy about it. I assume that's what happening with you.
"I love the knut more than everything in my life ......... U_U"
It's time to get grounded from the internet for a while.
End of story.
But apart from that, if someone wants to obsess over one of my other character, then I guess they can. I seldom draw any characters other than Stoney, anyways XD;;;
But that aside, YES, I hatehatehate when people draw porn of Jax. Thankfully it has only happened once or twice, but still, CREEEEEPY.
But like I said above, I'm usually pretty chill with fanboys/fangirls. I'm totally flattered people like mt art/chars. The rare one goes totally creepy-obsessive-stalkery though and that's when I draw the line.
The only porn that exists of Stoney is my own (as far as I know >>)... I haven't come across any, and I fear the day that I do. fsjklsdf
Luckily I haven't had anybody go super-psycho-groupie-cocaine-crazy over any of my characters... but I can imagine how insanely annoying it must be DDD:
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Oh my god.
I ... haven't had this type of obsession before, and thankfully enough, I don't ever think I will. *chuckles* ALl I do is mostly fanart. I barely make anything original, so I can't take credit for much. Obsessions aren't really produced that way.
That is unless you draw the character extremely well. Which... I can't do either. xD
*sighs* Diversity on this planet sure does reach to every possible extreme.
Anyhow, I am wallpaper on the wall that no one ever looks at, so I can't say that I've ever had that problem. That, and I don't really have any characters (or art posted here for that matter) either.
Or maybe I do, and I just don't know it!
Bad fact is, the character in question was my "avatar" - it still irks me to be called with her name :/
How 'bout this? You draw a character in the style of a show you're not even a fan of just for the heck of it, suddenly you find someone in fanfiction.net point out among their shipping references THAT character (that you've only ever drawn ONCE that way) paired up with a character from the show in question. A slash pairing, of course.
I WISH I were kidding.
D:
any popularity is good popularity i say.
Some comments I don't mind since it's not frequent from those people, but I've had people obsess over Kazdra's male form numerous times over on DA, and when I told one of them that it was getting creepy and annoying (they were treating the character as if it were real), they started flaming the shit out of me for it. o___O;
Doesn't happen as much with herm Kaz, but I occassionally get people commenting on wanting to "join in" on my sexual pictures between Flaerion and herm Kaz.
Is said person obsessing over Jax? :P
Anyhow, I have to ask.. Everybody is making their guesses, but who is this one character that you have a stalker for?
It's one of my Koopa's, Knut. The big, beefy one.
and it's not just furries either (as if we need any more nutjobs latching onto furry art), i see it anime-related, even "fine" art, i see people leaving really creepy comments.
as soon as anyone can draw well, and has more than eight people watching them, the creeping begins...
*Hands Jax a 50-Pound Rubber Fish* Hit em with this.
I'm dead serious. This is my serious face. >:<
What is wrong with people. Srsly. That's beyond messed up.
;____;
o.o
You see Jax, this is why I never posted prawn, stated that I would not draw prawn, and even out right refused commissions. When you give people this incentive that you're just as sick and perverted as they are, they tend to think that you won't mind when they go super-serial stalker (lol southpark) about a specific character that you wanted to like, but now can't stand for the attention he garners. Well, the KIND of attention he garners.
I suppose it's something you have to lay out before hand.
Also, you have to be a dick to people who don't get the message. I mean, be nice the first time, or at least state it in your profile/journal that you do NOT want people to request things about certain characters (unless they intend to pay a great deal for that art) and if they do, you reserve the right to be the biggest bitch in the world, and ignore them.
At least, that's what I do/did to the guy constantly stalking me about a character.
Well, technically, I blocked the dude, stay invis on YIM, and if he does contact me I just never reply.
But still, being a dick/bitch/cock/cunt/whateverthehellelseyoucanbe can't hurt.
If anything it'll make you more popular.
And we all know how important internet popularity is. c:
However, if you want to deal with it civilly, or don't want to be mean, then just send me out there.
I'm not a foaming at the mouth fan of yours, but I never miss an opportunity be an ass hole to people. SRSLY, I luvs it so much, it's nawt evan funneh. Okay, maybe a little. Okay, yeah it's sad, pathetic, and funny, but dammit I love to cause unnecessary amounts of pointless drama for no other reason than my own amusement. And frothy fans are the best ones at getting that drama out of.
Hell, you might get a few laughs out of it yourself.
In any case, if worst comes to worst, BALEET FUCKING EVERYTHING!
That always works.
And then get a new account.
Draw new things, but make sure not to shade them.
Then deny the fact that you are Jax, even when the admin is saying you are.
Because it's not you, it's the roommate you suddenly have.
(lol, I'm so subtle)
Also, Tegaki, do you know of it/go on it?
Funny thing though, it's not even porn.
I like girls who can defend them selvs, and stand on their own two feet without needing help.
From what i understand You Role Play as her right, what websites. I've been thinking and ... i think id like to get to know her, if you dont mind my asking that is.
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also, remember how on Deviant Art i said i wanted to draw her in a Gown? hehe
^ ^
its being colord now!
Yay!
Uh oh!
um .... may i have a link to this place please?
as for the picture, i based the dres off of the one you showed me, it was hard desiding a color for her dress since her hair and eyes were already pink ... lol, im so used to drawing pink dresses ...
>.>
if so, then i cant ... parents made rules not to install any programs without their permission ... and i dont know how they would react to this kinda thing ... ill talk to them about it. Id seariously like the chance to RP with you and your character Z.
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ill see if i can get a hand on the program
If this is a LOT of people though... eh, I guess you just have a very popular character.
The person in question is just down right annoying.
tis why i commissioned ya originally :p......that and cuz yer the first bat artist i was introduced to via my good friend Nero
I like Lemurs. And I keep their markings realistic. I like my animals that way. Sue me. ]:
So, no, I haven't had that exact problem.
BUT. I did make this Caramelldansen icon base that's free-for-use on DA.. And I've got so many comments, questions,notes, complaints, etc. about it that now I can't even listen to the Caramelldansen song without wanting to vomit.. e.e I mean, it had gotten annoying before (I can only handle that kind of song for so long) but now I just.. Can't.. Stand it.
And I hate seeing pics of people doing the dance. I hate any-and-every-thing that has to do with it, for the most part. ]: