(CONVERSATION: Whit you guys!) Topic: Life and Time
13 years ago
General
This journal is about life and the time that we have.
For maybe two years now, and more recently 2weeks ago, i have the feeling of being <<Late>> in life.
Here is some context.
-I just turned 25 about 19 days ago.
-I am a graduated from a very renown coledge of Ottawa in social working field and will graduated from university in social working aswell in a year and a half.
-I live at my mothers house
-I been having a carreer job in my field (Social work) for soon to be 4 years now as i got that job right after i graduated from coledge.
-I have 0$ of student det and own 0$ to any credit compagnie or famely or friends of any sort and i have a saving of about 4 digits.(Do to the fact that i took the financial desition to stay at my mothers place to not get into det)
Now.....
I feal that i am late in life.....Recently i learned that one of my good friend that is 23 is gething a house whit his boyfriend after being in a apartement for i think 2 years.
And here i am at age 25 and i never owned a apartement and nither a house.
The good news is that after finishing university il be able to manage to get a very small house/Condo that il be able to own all to myself and pay by myself.
But this brings me to about 27 years of life....26 if i am very lucky...
(MY QUESTIONS ARE)
1-Do you bealeve that there is such a thing as (Being late) in life?
2-Do you think that by reading my situation that i am late in life?
3-Do you think that there is any social meter that says that at age (x) you must have a car at age (x) you must have a house and before age (x) you must have a shild?
I could finish this journal by saying that there is one thing that i aint feal late and surely never will and that is for having shildrens.
People that know me know that i want shildrens and for thoose that dint knew already i am gay. And il make this fast and simple. If a single mother or father has enought love to raise a shild by its own then a loving famely of two mothers or faters can. I will fight so that the teachers and shools will know how to integrate this reality in there school and that years before il be able to hold my first shild in my hand and cry like a baby that i became a fater and that i will have undyng love and protection for this shild even daught it might not be my blood, to me it is who raise you that are your real parents.
(WHAT I MEAN IS)
Only become a fater when all your life is set. Have a job.Have savings, have a house. Love yourself. Love your life. And only then think of gething a shild (Adopt or conceive one)
If you happend to become a fater and you dint expect it daught then that il all alright as life surprise us sometimes. It is not because all your life is set that you will be a better fater then the one that dint expected it and it is the same for the other way around.
And i would like to resend my admiration for a certain ball of fur that i see at FE everyyear whit his daugther and just seing him raising her so wonderfully and how he present furs and people to her. Your my modle man(You know who you are)
Until then il keep having this dream where i see what i think is my son being in a ballet show and i am cheering at the end being so proud he is my son and my daugther that ask me if she can become a trucker when she will get older and that il know il do all my best that she will be able to gain her dream.
If there is one thing that i miss in life it is to have other friends that wishes to become parents and to have this talk whit them and whit other men that love mens and to talk about the hard time that there will be in front of us to be able to become parents. There are alot of shildrens out there that has no more famelies o to so many sad reason and i know that i can be a good and loving
And carring fater.
That is all for now folks.
Zets
Jp
For maybe two years now, and more recently 2weeks ago, i have the feeling of being <<Late>> in life.
Here is some context.
-I just turned 25 about 19 days ago.
-I am a graduated from a very renown coledge of Ottawa in social working field and will graduated from university in social working aswell in a year and a half.
-I live at my mothers house
-I been having a carreer job in my field (Social work) for soon to be 4 years now as i got that job right after i graduated from coledge.
-I have 0$ of student det and own 0$ to any credit compagnie or famely or friends of any sort and i have a saving of about 4 digits.(Do to the fact that i took the financial desition to stay at my mothers place to not get into det)
Now.....
I feal that i am late in life.....Recently i learned that one of my good friend that is 23 is gething a house whit his boyfriend after being in a apartement for i think 2 years.
And here i am at age 25 and i never owned a apartement and nither a house.
The good news is that after finishing university il be able to manage to get a very small house/Condo that il be able to own all to myself and pay by myself.
But this brings me to about 27 years of life....26 if i am very lucky...
(MY QUESTIONS ARE)
1-Do you bealeve that there is such a thing as (Being late) in life?
2-Do you think that by reading my situation that i am late in life?
3-Do you think that there is any social meter that says that at age (x) you must have a car at age (x) you must have a house and before age (x) you must have a shild?
I could finish this journal by saying that there is one thing that i aint feal late and surely never will and that is for having shildrens.
People that know me know that i want shildrens and for thoose that dint knew already i am gay. And il make this fast and simple. If a single mother or father has enought love to raise a shild by its own then a loving famely of two mothers or faters can. I will fight so that the teachers and shools will know how to integrate this reality in there school and that years before il be able to hold my first shild in my hand and cry like a baby that i became a fater and that i will have undyng love and protection for this shild even daught it might not be my blood, to me it is who raise you that are your real parents.
(WHAT I MEAN IS)
Only become a fater when all your life is set. Have a job.Have savings, have a house. Love yourself. Love your life. And only then think of gething a shild (Adopt or conceive one)
If you happend to become a fater and you dint expect it daught then that il all alright as life surprise us sometimes. It is not because all your life is set that you will be a better fater then the one that dint expected it and it is the same for the other way around.
And i would like to resend my admiration for a certain ball of fur that i see at FE everyyear whit his daugther and just seing him raising her so wonderfully and how he present furs and people to her. Your my modle man(You know who you are)
Until then il keep having this dream where i see what i think is my son being in a ballet show and i am cheering at the end being so proud he is my son and my daugther that ask me if she can become a trucker when she will get older and that il know il do all my best that she will be able to gain her dream.
If there is one thing that i miss in life it is to have other friends that wishes to become parents and to have this talk whit them and whit other men that love mens and to talk about the hard time that there will be in front of us to be able to become parents. There are alot of shildrens out there that has no more famelies o to so many sad reason and i know that i can be a good and loving
And carring fater.
That is all for now folks.
Zets
Jp
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I'll say I am older than you are and all my friends are married with houses and kids, and I fell that my life is only just beginning.
You're not even 30 yet. Live your life at your own pace. Don't fret about it :)
2.) i think you where just, getting your schooling and a job before moving out. so you will be more set up instead of going to early and adding to much stress on your self at once.
3.) personally i don't think there is much of a social meter like that, how ever thous that think there are kind of push it on others.
besides there alot of us that think you grate the way you are zets ^_^ *hugs*
*p.s. its child :P (hugs coony) *
2. You seem like you want to make sure you get what needs to be done done. I'm sure you have plenty experiences and memory's of your life so far and you should be happy with that. I don't think you can be late in life. Really to me its more about living your life and growing through experiences.
3. I think there is a bit of a social meter that defines some people. I know lots of people that are older then me that were more successful then me at my age. I know plenty of others that are older then me and yet they are deadbeats that sit around and smoke pot all day doing nothing with their lives. Didn't go to school or anything. I think as long as someone is trying for their happiness they aren't late in life. Like me I'm 21 still going to school. Probably still going to be going for another few years. I still live with my parents but I want to be in a place of my own weather that be by myself, with a roommate, or if I find that certain someone my mate. I dont think I'm late in life because I'm working towards it.
Don't know if this help's or not!
2)naaaaah. I dont think your late in life. Infact your way better off then the most of us at this age. granted I'm only 23 (will done college (second college graduate from the first moved on to something more specific) at the age of 25 with a big nice debt. so pretty much you but at the other side of the finance and still relly on my mother. Its not something I particualy like or want but to save myself from further debt she is helping me out). So your pretty well placed. You're only in your 20's no point in freaking out just quiet yet. Just do what ya gotta do, get a place and what not and go from there :).
3) yes theres is this idea of bieng late in our world. But it is changing like others here have said. But this idea of bieng late, really, is it bieng late? I've seen and know too many who got pregnant at the ages of 15-18. and really, they never lived. Never voyaged, never even whent to college. Their kids aren't always raised in the best of enviornments. (no abuse but not bringing your kids out to a park when ya smoke alot isn't the best ether sort of thing) They may have a place, a car even, but is bieng in debt or even well fair a better subtitute? (I'm not saying if your stuck not to go on wellfare. But I've seen too many abuse the system as well. is that better?) In the end its what YOU want out of life that sets your plans. I'll tell you what my mother told me at the age of 18 :
''Mom: do you want kids? me: not right now. Mom: then go to college and have fun if thats what you trully want. If you wanted kids, get busy now! If its not in your heart you might as well wait and make something out of yourself.''
In a nut shell: enjoy life. put little markers if it helps you orginize your life like, age 30 have home and car. But don't worry. We only live once. We might as well enjoy as much as we can. :)
P.S. Can't wait to see you in 2 days :) You're such a nice fellow and its ncie to see more French Frogs in town XD. And Hey I can hold the front flag for ya this year :) Take care my coony friend!
Even though there's a chance you're not talking about me, Jokull actually bought his house 3 years ago and now I'm helping him out with the mortgage since I moved in with him. (I'm saying it cause I'm 23 x3)
1-Do you bealeve that there is such a thing as (Being late) in life?
No.
2-Do you think that by reading my situation that i am late in life?
No.
3-Do you think that there is any social meter that says that at age (x) you must have a car at age (x) you must have a house and before age (x) you must have a shild?
No.
Now, as all your questions were yes/no questions, let me develop.
For being late at getting a house, some people have facilitating social, financial, familial situations permitting them to get a house as 23. These are exceptions. You managed to get thru University with no debt. In this economy, having no debt make you a rich man.
For being late at graduating, you already have your highschool diploma, you already have a solid college diploma and are close to get your University diploma, in addition of having good, varied experience in the field as well as contacts. Now, dig statistics, tell me if you're late, average, or advanced in life, academic/profession wise.
For being late at being a dad, you are just turned 25 and single. Let yourself heal from your past relationship, then find someone compatible then get to family planning with him.
Being late a having a car, cars are horrible investments and very costly. If you don't have an absolute need, postpone that. It is not a social obligation.
Being late at having savings. In this economy, you're one of the few who have savings at all. Combined with your debtlessness, it's awesome.
You know all what I just said. You have your own answers, you know what's best for yourself. Trust yourself, enjoy now while you plan tomorrow, you'll get there soon enough. You want to be a dad, it puts pressure on you, but this is something you cannot force. Step one, heal from your past relation. Step two, meet and build a relationship with someone compatible. It will fall into place.
2. no
3. yes, cause the world says that. But everyone grows at different speeds. Every one has different lives.. It is foolish to judge other by that.
You have money in the bank. You have 0 debt. That is quite rare and you are a wise person.
Keep moving forward and don't let the world hold you back.
I have been watching you and reading your posts Zet. You have a sound mind. Best of luck to you kind fur.
Consider the alternative: you could be up to your eyeballs in debt with student loans and other things, living on your own in a house or apartment that eats up all of your income, have no savings, and for good measure we could even throw in a kid or two. Many people (far too many) have a life like that where they never started with a good footing and will never get it because their situation just consumes them.
The fact your friends are getting a house together is commendable, provided they are able to cover the expenses together. Their path in life has advanced in a different way than yours and is no better or worse than your path.
There is such a thing as being too late in life. I've heard of people in their late 30s and into their 40s who are still living with their parents, pretty much mooching off the parents while they are either unemployed and do nothing to find a job or have a poorly paying job and blow all their money on frivolous things. People like that are late in life, and all too often it's their parents who have let them be like that.
There is no valid social "meter" to determine whether a person is late in life because every person's life has so many variable factors. You've been working hard for many years to improve yourself and your future prospects through your education and saving money. At your age and with your circumstances you're not late in life. If someone got out of high school and got a minimum wage job, never tried to get anything better, and never advanced with their schooling while living with their parents and getting everything provided to them for free, when that person got to your age then I'd say he/she was late in life because of his/her circumstances.
From what you describe of yourself, I would not say you're late in life. You're just starting your life and you're off to a very good start. You're absolutely right that a family made up of two mothers or two fathers can be a very successful loving family. There's no reason you and a future mate can't be parents, and be good ones at that. (Considering how much you care about children and will encourage your kids to follow their own hearts in life, I'd expect you'll be a great dad.) But a successful family starts with a strong relationship between the two parents. When you find the right person who you feel ready to share the rest of your life with, you'll be able to build that strong relationship. You may have to wait a while before meeting the right person, which will lead to quite a wait before you're able to have kids, but you're doing the smart thing by not rushing into an unstable relationship just for the sake of having kids.
For me personally, I lived with my parents until I was 27 because I was going through college and couldn't yet find a job that paid enough for me to live on my own. I first moved in with roommates, which went badly so I had to move back with my parents because I still couldn't afford to get a place entirely on my own. 2 years later I moved out to live with my best friend
You're doing just fine with your life. Be happy with what you have and look forward to what your future will be. *huggles*
2) No. You're fine.
3) Yes, but it's completely artificial, never mind it.
2-As i said above you are never to late to start anything. I did not meet my wife until i was 30 and I have no kids of my own but two great Step kids. You are never to late to start things in life and as for owning a house or anythign like that you are still young at your age. I am 36 and I don;t even own a house but have a great and wonderful Family life and I am happy
3-There is no social age in life when you have to start everything you can go at your own pace and some people want to do everything right away and enjoy life at a later age and some enjoy young age and then do everything later. As for having kids you can have them at any time you want to, You are 25 years old and you have allot of years still in your life to have kids. I have know people not to have a kids,buy a house till they around 30 years old and this was because they wanted to get career of first.
Also as for being Gay and having a child my view is that you can have kids no matter what your sexual orientation is. A child being raised by a mother and a father is just as good as being raised by two fathers. As long as a child has the love and support of that person raising them there is no issues who the parents are or their orientation and you sound like you got allot of Love in your heart to give and thats what is the most important thing.
I know you will find that right person in life to spend the rest of it with because of the love you have in your heart and you and that person will be great at raising a child with the Love you both will have in your hearts.