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13 years ago
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I was bored and was watching UTube stuff. So then after watching some funny stuff I got onto Utube video's of UFO's. Some of the imagery is compelling... but then at the end of each video they go all crack pot at the end. Saying stuff like bad cover up tapes and slogans like: will Obama tell us the truth? First of all confessions are easily faked. People are crazy... and secondly if there was a UFO cover up why the hell would they tell a man that may only be in office a maximum eight years? They should be wondering if GEN Raymond T. Odierno will tell them the truth or perhaps a farther fetched judiciary claim. Nope its Obama.
The reason people have trouble believing is because of these crack pots. They shoot their own cause in the foot. Then there is the people who think this foot shooting is intentional from some shadow government to discredit real sources. Then they go on to say/show something equally as ignorant. I'm going to think up a name for these kind of people, because they appear in 9/11 conspiracy circles too. Something... latin: umbra imperium coniuratio. Imperiumumbra? Hehe, sounds like a bad dance move. I'll think of something else. :D Mumbra. Mumblers. Hmm, that might be right.
So when we cut out all that Mumbler stuff we still have some compelling video evidence from multiple angles. All of which could be done on someone's computer at home. Mostly black backgrounds with simple lights. Perhaps a spectral trail. Camera movements are easily replicated as well. Multiple eye witness accounts add more credibility to them. So I don't think there is much point debunking that they saw something. What it was can only be speculated on anyway.
Lets delve a little deeper into that. UFO sightings and abductions were strictly a United States phenomenon till the late 80's. Some say that's because of cultural differences(UFO's being gods in the skies or the like). However there is also the more practical answers:
One: conspiracy of prototype aircraft. Which is a good theory, but somewhat discredits itself being most advanced aircraft in the world at the time were developed by a Canadian engineering company(General Dynamics bought Canadair in 1946 and sold it in 1974) and the USSR. Canadian sightings were almost nill at this time. Though I guess were' easy to buy out eh? :D Russians are in the same boat though.
Two: Mass hysteria(and its cousin my personal friend the common sleep disorder). Mass Hysteria is a mental condition that is not really understood. Just like most of psychiatry. For example sighting and abduction stories all were quite similar in nature(saucers, being unable to move, weird surgery, probing and grey's). Some say Mass hysteria some strange type of conformity, some think its because were all connected on some sort of subconscious level. Both are sadly equally valid. A large scale example of this is in the well known Pokémon Panic of 1997... and at other times during Japanese history. Some speculate that is because the culture has a much greater emphasis on conformity. That's a viewpoint most shared by people that did not grow up there. Societies want you to conform... that's just how they work. If you want a local example look at any suburb or high school. Then there's the other camp: population density. If we are connected on some sort of subconscious level the more population in an area leading to a greater outbreak makes a strange kind of sense.
Going back to UFO's in general most early sightings were around Roswell and area 51 in the 50's and 60's. No thick populations sightings around there... but New Mexico was where they tested types of atomic weaponry. People must have been weirded out enough by that going on. So the aliens could have been checking out atomic blasts. However that hypothesis is a little thin because the majority of US nuclear testing was done on the Marshall Islands Pacific proving grounds. Which there were no UFO sightings by the local populous.
Abductions are commonly thought of as sleep disorders by the skeptics. The brain does not produce norepinephrine, serotonin and histamine during REM sleep(REM atonia) and these neurotransmitters are necessary for the brain stems motor neurons to operate. There's an alphabet soup of disorders that are related to this(I sadly have suffered from most of the list at one time or another in my life)... and its commonly believed that everyone will experience sleep paralysis once in their lifetime. These can last hours in worse cases. These are generally accompanied by anxiety, hallucinations, and a sense that you are in danger. Sound familiar? If your in a society that wildly believes you've been abducted just what do you think your subconscious mind is going to show you? Classically these occurrences were associated with incubi. Aliens have become the boogymen of the 20th century. Nobody seems to believe in the devil anymore.
The less practical ideas are simply that everything is actually happening. There's no conclusive proof of it though. Nobody's come back from an abduction full of cybernetic or bio implants, or with "Alienz was here" stamped on their genitalia or any other part of their body so I can only say a resounding: Maybe.
The reason people have trouble believing is because of these crack pots. They shoot their own cause in the foot. Then there is the people who think this foot shooting is intentional from some shadow government to discredit real sources. Then they go on to say/show something equally as ignorant. I'm going to think up a name for these kind of people, because they appear in 9/11 conspiracy circles too. Something... latin: umbra imperium coniuratio. Imperiumumbra? Hehe, sounds like a bad dance move. I'll think of something else. :D Mumbra. Mumblers. Hmm, that might be right.
So when we cut out all that Mumbler stuff we still have some compelling video evidence from multiple angles. All of which could be done on someone's computer at home. Mostly black backgrounds with simple lights. Perhaps a spectral trail. Camera movements are easily replicated as well. Multiple eye witness accounts add more credibility to them. So I don't think there is much point debunking that they saw something. What it was can only be speculated on anyway.
Lets delve a little deeper into that. UFO sightings and abductions were strictly a United States phenomenon till the late 80's. Some say that's because of cultural differences(UFO's being gods in the skies or the like). However there is also the more practical answers:
One: conspiracy of prototype aircraft. Which is a good theory, but somewhat discredits itself being most advanced aircraft in the world at the time were developed by a Canadian engineering company(General Dynamics bought Canadair in 1946 and sold it in 1974) and the USSR. Canadian sightings were almost nill at this time. Though I guess were' easy to buy out eh? :D Russians are in the same boat though.
Two: Mass hysteria(and its cousin my personal friend the common sleep disorder). Mass Hysteria is a mental condition that is not really understood. Just like most of psychiatry. For example sighting and abduction stories all were quite similar in nature(saucers, being unable to move, weird surgery, probing and grey's). Some say Mass hysteria some strange type of conformity, some think its because were all connected on some sort of subconscious level. Both are sadly equally valid. A large scale example of this is in the well known Pokémon Panic of 1997... and at other times during Japanese history. Some speculate that is because the culture has a much greater emphasis on conformity. That's a viewpoint most shared by people that did not grow up there. Societies want you to conform... that's just how they work. If you want a local example look at any suburb or high school. Then there's the other camp: population density. If we are connected on some sort of subconscious level the more population in an area leading to a greater outbreak makes a strange kind of sense.
Going back to UFO's in general most early sightings were around Roswell and area 51 in the 50's and 60's. No thick populations sightings around there... but New Mexico was where they tested types of atomic weaponry. People must have been weirded out enough by that going on. So the aliens could have been checking out atomic blasts. However that hypothesis is a little thin because the majority of US nuclear testing was done on the Marshall Islands Pacific proving grounds. Which there were no UFO sightings by the local populous.
Abductions are commonly thought of as sleep disorders by the skeptics. The brain does not produce norepinephrine, serotonin and histamine during REM sleep(REM atonia) and these neurotransmitters are necessary for the brain stems motor neurons to operate. There's an alphabet soup of disorders that are related to this(I sadly have suffered from most of the list at one time or another in my life)... and its commonly believed that everyone will experience sleep paralysis once in their lifetime. These can last hours in worse cases. These are generally accompanied by anxiety, hallucinations, and a sense that you are in danger. Sound familiar? If your in a society that wildly believes you've been abducted just what do you think your subconscious mind is going to show you? Classically these occurrences were associated with incubi. Aliens have become the boogymen of the 20th century. Nobody seems to believe in the devil anymore.
The less practical ideas are simply that everything is actually happening. There's no conclusive proof of it though. Nobody's come back from an abduction full of cybernetic or bio implants, or with "Alienz was here" stamped on their genitalia or any other part of their body so I can only say a resounding: Maybe.
and on the devil demon thing i know spiritual world does exist has felt it and has been attacke din dream and woke up with scratch and slash liek wounds where was hit in dream. XD
Anyway I'd like to ask you a few questions if that's alright. Do you ever suffer from involuntary leg movements? As if if your sitting somewhere and bounce your knee. If stressed or bored or whatever.
Have you ever experienced a lucid dream?
If you said yes to either of these questions there could be a physical explanation along with the metaphysical.
Restless legs syndrome is often appreciated with Periodic limb movement disorder. I suffer from this and yes I have punched myself in the face awake before. Hehe. Sometimes I jump out of bed or violently roll over too. Only when I'm stressed out not to freak anyone out.
Lucid dreaming can lead to sleep paralysis or parasomnias(Night terrors, sleepwalking).
These are just physicality though. What you believe in is what you believe in. Dreams have often been associate with death and the spirit world. So I rule nothing out.
I always lucid dream. It's never full control... my subconscious always battles me, but there are tricks. The most effective are self removal and reverse psychology. My subconscious has no patience for riddles.