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My Computer went boom, new box thrumming between my legs. An
17 years ago
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Antho artist in Melbourne, Australia.
If you'd like to get in contact please use Kraden on Telegram, or my Twitter.
If you'd like to get in contact please use Kraden on Telegram, or my Twitter.
re P.S. This is why the Podcast is late, sorry folks
BOOM I TELLS YOU!
Well perhaps not boom, but it felt like that. I cried! My long lost friend dead in my arms, fans and circuite forever lifeless!
It was working at 4am.
It wasn't working at 11.
But here's a little tip if your computer fails to turn on and the problem isn't obious. Take out the Memory, IDE cables (they're the big flat ones that connect to your CD drives and Hard Drives fyi), any graphics or sound cards. Heck, even the CPU if you know how.
Now computers will -beep- at you if something important is missing. If you take all this out and it dosen't beep...that means your motherboard is screwed.
Lucklily I had $1000 bucks stashed away to go towards my Cintiq. And I can't have a cintiq unless I've got a working computer, an' darn tooten the computer sales fair was on the next day.
So off I went with my freind Lulu to nab some new parts so fancy robots everywhere would grow telescopic lenses...if you know what i mean.
(I'll teach you some stuff about computers in this paragraph, I've got a simpler bit furthur down)
A computers speed isn't just controlled by the speed of the processor. So people can brag about buying a new 4.0Ghz processor and slap their nerdy boners in everybodys faces, and it'll be fast BUT it might be slowed down by the other parts.
Even having large amounts of memory ain't so crash hot.
What really makes a computer shine is having a good CPU and memory and motherboard speed.
For instance. If you've got UBER10,000,000GB of memory and a processor as Powerful as Zeus himself...but a motherboard running at 300mhz...the system won't ever run at it's full potential.
So, I nabbed myself a High-Mid range motherboard. It can handle that new fandangled DDR3 memory, which even a lot of the top end gaming machines don't use.
It can run up to 1333Mhz with DDR3 memory, compared ot my old (sadly) dead compy at 333mhz (DDR1). So no matter what my country road just got upgraded to a freeway. Yeah Baby, Yeah! (Dances like Austin powers)
So I gots a QuadCore CPU as well to give some grunt to the computer (that's 4x at 2.7Ghz if your interested). And 2xGigs of DDR3 memory (which can run at 1333Mhz, same as the Motherboard and CPU).
So I've got a new Quad core Processor plugged into a
rather fast motherboard, with some damn fast memory. YAAY! Now I won't have to upgrade for another 7 years (which is what the last one went for).
Ok so that cost...$750...damn.
But here comes the problem. New HardDrives and DVD-roms all run on these new 'Sata' cables right. My old equipment is all IDE, and the new motherboard only has enough IDE' for 2 bits (my old main HDD and my CD drive).
Crap that's another $120, or else I can't get to my art files.
Damn...seems these new bits also need a new style power supply. That's another $100.
So I get the whole shiney new monser home. Put in the CPU (and freak out about breaking it, the tiny thing is worth more than my car insurance). Get the fans in, the board in, all the cables and junk in.
Fuck...
the Graphics card doesn't fit. The new Gen motherboards use something called PCIexpress ports, where my expensive graphics card is a PCI....crap...now I needa go get a new grpahics card too.
SO!
Long story short I've not got a very powerful beast quietly humming between my legs...no I don't mean that beast you pervs X[
And it cost a little over a Thousand dollars.
Just FYI, if you bought this in store you'd get a new DVD rom, new case, and Windows Vista, but it'd cost you over 3grand. So you save a lot building yourself.
- - - - -
So if you got through that long winded explanation CONGRATULATIONS!
It also means I'm selling my old parts on the cheap, note me if you'd like them.
> RadeonX700 256MBDDR graphics card, 2 ports (can run 2 monitors), s-video
> GeForceFX 5600 256Mb, 2 ports, s-video
> GeForce2 MX400 64mb, 1 port
> DDR2 Memory, 256Mb
> DDR2 Memory, 512Mb x 2
> 100Mbit Ethernet network card
> 3.2 Mhz Multithread Processor (still works a charm)
BOOM I TELLS YOU!
Well perhaps not boom, but it felt like that. I cried! My long lost friend dead in my arms, fans and circuite forever lifeless!
It was working at 4am.
It wasn't working at 11.
But here's a little tip if your computer fails to turn on and the problem isn't obious. Take out the Memory, IDE cables (they're the big flat ones that connect to your CD drives and Hard Drives fyi), any graphics or sound cards. Heck, even the CPU if you know how.
Now computers will -beep- at you if something important is missing. If you take all this out and it dosen't beep...that means your motherboard is screwed.
Lucklily I had $1000 bucks stashed away to go towards my Cintiq. And I can't have a cintiq unless I've got a working computer, an' darn tooten the computer sales fair was on the next day.
So off I went with my freind Lulu to nab some new parts so fancy robots everywhere would grow telescopic lenses...if you know what i mean.
(I'll teach you some stuff about computers in this paragraph, I've got a simpler bit furthur down)
A computers speed isn't just controlled by the speed of the processor. So people can brag about buying a new 4.0Ghz processor and slap their nerdy boners in everybodys faces, and it'll be fast BUT it might be slowed down by the other parts.
Even having large amounts of memory ain't so crash hot.
What really makes a computer shine is having a good CPU and memory and motherboard speed.
For instance. If you've got UBER10,000,000GB of memory and a processor as Powerful as Zeus himself...but a motherboard running at 300mhz...the system won't ever run at it's full potential.
So, I nabbed myself a High-Mid range motherboard. It can handle that new fandangled DDR3 memory, which even a lot of the top end gaming machines don't use.
It can run up to 1333Mhz with DDR3 memory, compared ot my old (sadly) dead compy at 333mhz (DDR1). So no matter what my country road just got upgraded to a freeway. Yeah Baby, Yeah! (Dances like Austin powers)
So I gots a QuadCore CPU as well to give some grunt to the computer (that's 4x at 2.7Ghz if your interested). And 2xGigs of DDR3 memory (which can run at 1333Mhz, same as the Motherboard and CPU).
So I've got a new Quad core Processor plugged into a
rather fast motherboard, with some damn fast memory. YAAY! Now I won't have to upgrade for another 7 years (which is what the last one went for).
Ok so that cost...$750...damn.
But here comes the problem. New HardDrives and DVD-roms all run on these new 'Sata' cables right. My old equipment is all IDE, and the new motherboard only has enough IDE' for 2 bits (my old main HDD and my CD drive).
Crap that's another $120, or else I can't get to my art files.
Damn...seems these new bits also need a new style power supply. That's another $100.
So I get the whole shiney new monser home. Put in the CPU (and freak out about breaking it, the tiny thing is worth more than my car insurance). Get the fans in, the board in, all the cables and junk in.
Fuck...
the Graphics card doesn't fit. The new Gen motherboards use something called PCIexpress ports, where my expensive graphics card is a PCI....crap...now I needa go get a new grpahics card too.
SO!
Long story short I've not got a very powerful beast quietly humming between my legs...no I don't mean that beast you pervs X[
And it cost a little over a Thousand dollars.
Just FYI, if you bought this in store you'd get a new DVD rom, new case, and Windows Vista, but it'd cost you over 3grand. So you save a lot building yourself.
- - - - -
So if you got through that long winded explanation CONGRATULATIONS!
It also means I'm selling my old parts on the cheap, note me if you'd like them.
> RadeonX700 256MBDDR graphics card, 2 ports (can run 2 monitors), s-video
> GeForceFX 5600 256Mb, 2 ports, s-video
> GeForce2 MX400 64mb, 1 port
> DDR2 Memory, 256Mb
> DDR2 Memory, 512Mb x 2
> 100Mbit Ethernet network card
> 3.2 Mhz Multithread Processor (still works a charm)
TL;DR : My name is Kraden, and I just made the podcast late. Complimentary throwing tomatoes are in a bag right under your seat. Thank you.
"New box thrumming between my legs" really got me wondering, LOL
Grats on the new computer, though :D
I mean box
I mean...oh dear.
But basically don't buy a crappy part and plug good ones into it.
In CGI.
Oh wait.. you meant a computer?
.. I naturally figured a tiger.
Not only does he stop theives from stealing my dataz, being warm and fuzzy AND doubling as a gigantic pillow.
He runs on electricity can comes with a full range of USB and data card slots. Yaaaay!
I had no idea you could get IDE cards...well...problem being the new mother board has no PCI slots (they're the ones for Graphics cards yes? Or am I thinking AGP?)
My motherboard only has those new super small AGP numbers, normal PCI, and the new PCIexpress slot for graphics cards.
SATA and IDE controller card in case you do have normal PCI slots. i couldnt find any PCIexpress IDE controller cards
Ebadge sounds good, but I'll give the OzFurry mail list a chance to snatch them up first.
Now I can get onto the podcast ^^;
grats on new PC
A PSU is ALOT more prone to going POOF then your atcual motherboard and mounted components are due to the stresses put on the PSU by every day use, heat and point amp/invertion.
So im gonna assume that you tested your old PSU before deeming the motherboard as scrap.
A think you need to remember. Just like you said, bus speed makes alot of what your looking for, but it goes deeper. ALOT deeper then that.
Just like the yesterdays there was the ddr2 ram, Sure! it ran at 800-1000ahz (without overclocking) but it never ran as fast as 400mhz ddr1 (up till later on in the generation anyway.)
Why? Because the latencys of the ram were bogus. to put this in perspective. imagin for a moment the data entering your ram needs to be stored, accessed. and released. Imagina this takes time. time for ocmptuers is measures (for ram anyway) in clock cycles. DDR1 ram takes 2-3 sysles to access this data. That means for every sting of data that enters the RAM it takes that many cycles before it is valad for removal from the ram. Not take. DDR2. (im guessing here but the atcual figures are similar) it takes 4-5 cycles for this data to leave.DDR2 ram may be running at 800mhz but that extra speed is aboslutle uselss if the ram itself lags the data. So you need to remember that, jsut because ddr 3 runs at 1333mhz, If it's latencys are high, then not onle is it possibly but also VERY likely, that DDR1 or MABY even ddr2 would out perform your ddr3 ram. The dilivery of the data to the northbridge or CPU might be faster but the delay (due to latencys) is much greater and that is what REALLY drags system performance down.
Then thing with faster bus, the faster it is the faster the ram is forced to perform the more likely it is that 1's and 0's will exit the ram in the wrong order. thus lat is reduced to minimise the risk of the order been destroyed. If the order is distorted then the data exiting the ram is incorrect and will cause system crash. thus ehy higher FSB ram such as DDR3 sports higher latencys.
and im a bit drunk right now but ja. MEOW!
Get a higher bus speed on DDR2 compared to DDR1 for it to run better than DDR1 etc.
However with most of my graphics programs it's solid stored data in memory, so having large amounts of data stored in memory is great of photoshop, so even if I didn't know it earlier, it was a better purchase choice.
Plus I've got the 2gb of DDR3 mem, plus another 4slots of DDR2 I'll be filling later ;D
As for the power supply I know it was working because it was feeding power to my motherboard, and components. Although it could have been a plug issue. In the end though it could have beeped anyway, or not turned on.
The CPU may be fried as well, but in the end it was a great excuse for a new machine.
Btw, whatcha drinkin ? :D