Using search by date to try and get around the whole other issue with the search engine, and then I get this one instead.

That what i get sometimes >_> that's why they need to improve the search system. It seem difficult when finding something, also with finding an artist page

Even if the search system was great there's still the issue of people using the wrong tags for things, though I abuse it too, with jokes. Give looking up the word "shy" a go while searching by most recent date and you'll find that... none of them look like they mean shy.

Even a word that's hard to phrase any other way, like "dress" comes up at best with only 75% having something that resembles a dress. Anything that might have something fetish-ized in it is more likely to come up with very little.

Concepts and things that have no actual form aren't easy to find but very real things, like... boobs, those are pretty much 100% right, uh, with one or two that are wrong I guess? It's a very awkward labeling system, and fixing that would be a good first step forward.

I hate when I search for something I KNOW I tagged as such never shows up. |<
It's like..WTF.

Yeah that's just broken, and is one of the largest flaws I can see. Admittedly I have no idea how the site loads up all the tags, nor how google can keep thousands of pages registered and still find the closest thing to what you want.

This site tries to do that with the popularity filter, but it quickly ends up only loading the same images for different words, even if those words never appeared as a tag.

And then, sometimes a tag doesn't get a picture included in the search?

It needs to be looked into, and unfortunately with a site like this it's probably going to need a person that can program and has free time. Unless they're already working on it? Then I just need to start following news stuff.

Sadly they keep rejecting external help, so they have one or maybe two programmers working on the site in their free time.

There's a difference between security and not wanting anyone to touch your porcelain tea set. Security is where nobody is literally able to touch the tea set unless given permission and then carefully watched as they use it to make tea. Being the old lady that has the tea set on the table and slaps a kid's hand when they reach out to touch the sparkly... That's the least secure thing ever.

Unless, they're just lazy, then it actually paints a much better picture. It's basically a dude's half empty chip bag, and everyone wants to clean it up but he's still eating them, they're just on the table for a bit. So if anyone then steals a chip and proclaims it in front of them he kicks them out of the house, sometimes forever.

<3 metaphors

From what I know of the system, just sticking in words like a Google search will search everything it can for every submission: Title, tags, submission info, submission content (if possible), username, mother's maiden name, planetary alignment at time of submission, etc. Simple, not very effective.

To do specific types of search you need to precede the search with a special operator. The three most useful are:

@title: Search in submission titles.
@keywords: Search tags. (which is what you're looking for)
@lower: Searches for submissions by the requested username.

Now if you're doing a very specific search, the two most useful tricks are grouping and excluding. Grouping means you put words together in parenthesis. For example, searching for breast expansion will pull up anything that has "breast" and/or "expansion" in the search field, but (breast expansion) will only return anything where the two words are together.

To exclude something, put a ! before a word. Example: Searching for @keywords pregnancy !mpreg should return only pregnancy tag results but no mpreg results. Assuming people tag their stuff properly.

You can combine search operators. @lower SimonAquarius title Amanda would bring up all your submissions that have the word "Amanda" in the title.

You can apparently pull some neat tricks with the search tool: Such as pulling all the submissions by a specific user of a specific type (art, story, music etc.) of a specific rating (G, A, M). But that is deep magic I haven't yet to learn.

Just remember: @keywords searches for tags and tags only.

That is brilliant

Revolutionary.

Probably something I should have known before making complaints, so it kinda paints a picture of me being a whiner that doesn't check facts first, which... is accurate. Besides your productive comment my own comments are longer than what they respond to, and provide my opinion without adding positive feedback. So, this is some good stuff.

I get the feeling I've had similar comments before, for similar journals. Uh, I should probably stop attacking the search engine now, I've been doing it for a bit and... not really helping.

Feel free to complain. It took me a while to figure all this out and the help page could be a little more clear and helpful. It goes on to explain how you can use extended boolean operators, but using them can be unreliable. Pluse we have a largely case-insensitive system that can screw up if you try to search for something in Allcaps (COFFEE instead of coffee).

For the system to be worth using, three things need to happen.

1) The help page could actually be helpful.
2) It needs to be a little more intuitive (@tags for search tags instead of @keywords, user for searching user. Ability to search for multiple submission types like species, gender, content which you can only ever do one of each at a time with Browse. If you already can do this, then we really need to know how).
3) People need to start tagging their shit properly.

All three need to happen. All three will never happen.

1) If it were a wiki page then other users could keep the information correct, and certain pages like the tos or aup can be locked.

2) those are some real easy fixes, it's literally just a few words for the first half of the fix, the second one might be more complicated though, other columns and such.

3) On another furry website there's a tag system that allows you to tag other people's artwork if they have that feature enabled, and there are other sites that do the same thing as well. The authors could care less if they tag their work properly, a lot of them just draw for fun and the extra effort of typing in the proper tags isn't fun.


I like the idea of giving other users the ability to easily make fixes to a broken system, especially when you consider the amount of hours that add up when a thousand people spend thirty seconds of their time adding an extra tag. Though, this tends to end up with the "tag me" line.

If we did go the route of freely adding tags, then another search function could be tag count, so that people can add tags to pictures that lack them, or look for pictures with larger tags counts because it's another form of popularity.

Say...how to search by someone's Gallery or Favs? Search by my own Gallery or Favs, at least.

Good day.

What

When you are on someone's page, for example, your own. You can change the /user/ in the link bar up top to /gallery/ or /favorites/

There's also a view gallery and view favorites button on the user's page, but when going from user to user, I prefer just to change the link.

Does that go by "and" or "or", because if it's "and", then you might ask for two things that aren't included in the tags, but probably do exist somewhere. Like, I can type "college, bimbofication, sfw" and nothing comes up, however I can look up "college, bimbofication" and find images that are sfw if I do it manually. I can't add the sfw tag to those though, because that's not how the site works. Since we can't collectively make these corrections/additions, this means we have a search system that only works some of the time. We can't tell how badly it works, because we can't find all the artworks the system misses without doing the test above against all tag combinations. The "college, bimbofication" combo only leads to 54 submissions at this point in time, and from that there's at least one I'd consider sfw. The more tags an image has, the more likely you'll find it, but the more tags you search for the more likely you won't find it. The best method is to search for one tag, because then you're only missing the images that forgot to add it.