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What is the deal with the "no sex" vore?
13 years ago
Seeing it often enough and never quite understanding it, I do really feel compelled to ask: What does atract those people to vore, who strictly wnt to keep it on the tame side?
I mean, vore joke pics, pictures which try to rather convey the horror of being eaten and such or convey and image that appens to involve creatures eating each other but isn't really just aboutthe pure act of it, ie, pics that aren't supposed to be fetish art are something different, but what is the deal about vore that reads, looks, behaves or plays out like a fetish drawing / story or roleplay but doesn't deal in the sexual part?
If it doesn't humour, arouse or frighten, if it doesn't want to convey a message, if it is pretty much purely about "I want to see character x eaten by character y" / "I want you to eat me" or vice versa, well, what is the point in it?
I do know of people who say that they indeed are complete vore fetishsit in the psychological sense, solely aroused to vore and otherwise asexual in regards to, well, having sex or imagining sex with people, but I did get the impression, both from the fact that enough people with "no sex in vore" policies are not averse to sex as such and the apparent rarity of asexuals encountered in everyday real life by me so far, that this alone couldn't explain it fully.
So, what do people, including the reader, if he happens to fall into this category "get" from vore?
Investing time searching out partners and playing it out as roleplay, writing it into a story or searching for such, paying money to have it drawn with their characters is enough to make the question of what reward is seen in that interesting.
It just seems all so much more like how people deal with sexual fantasies compared to how they deal with power fantasies or with fantasies of being part of a story they admire.
Most vore sites treat vore as a fetish, stressing the need of the viewers to be 18+, vore is most often listed with fetishes like zoophilia, pedophila and other such, stuff that is usually all about the act of sex or the sexual portrayal of certain things, even if the fetish is not shared, the intention to be erotic is usually rather easy to perceive.
Also, I have often perceived how people strogly divided the vore fandom can be on this issue, with people quite often having little understanding for the opposite view point.
In short, I'd quite like not to be as much in the dark about this issue anymore: What makes people not want to have sex in vore if they aren't completely averse to sex in the first place?
I mean, vore joke pics, pictures which try to rather convey the horror of being eaten and such or convey and image that appens to involve creatures eating each other but isn't really just aboutthe pure act of it, ie, pics that aren't supposed to be fetish art are something different, but what is the deal about vore that reads, looks, behaves or plays out like a fetish drawing / story or roleplay but doesn't deal in the sexual part?
If it doesn't humour, arouse or frighten, if it doesn't want to convey a message, if it is pretty much purely about "I want to see character x eaten by character y" / "I want you to eat me" or vice versa, well, what is the point in it?
I do know of people who say that they indeed are complete vore fetishsit in the psychological sense, solely aroused to vore and otherwise asexual in regards to, well, having sex or imagining sex with people, but I did get the impression, both from the fact that enough people with "no sex in vore" policies are not averse to sex as such and the apparent rarity of asexuals encountered in everyday real life by me so far, that this alone couldn't explain it fully.
So, what do people, including the reader, if he happens to fall into this category "get" from vore?
Investing time searching out partners and playing it out as roleplay, writing it into a story or searching for such, paying money to have it drawn with their characters is enough to make the question of what reward is seen in that interesting.
It just seems all so much more like how people deal with sexual fantasies compared to how they deal with power fantasies or with fantasies of being part of a story they admire.
Most vore sites treat vore as a fetish, stressing the need of the viewers to be 18+, vore is most often listed with fetishes like zoophilia, pedophila and other such, stuff that is usually all about the act of sex or the sexual portrayal of certain things, even if the fetish is not shared, the intention to be erotic is usually rather easy to perceive.
Also, I have often perceived how people strogly divided the vore fandom can be on this issue, with people quite often having little understanding for the opposite view point.
In short, I'd quite like not to be as much in the dark about this issue anymore: What makes people not want to have sex in vore if they aren't completely averse to sex in the first place?
I mean, traditional vore is, well, hard to pin.
And, well, looking at it from the wholesome side, like a very detailed depiction of the process of vore, like showing exactly how the entirety of the vore process works? That would explain some but by far not all of it.
...also reminds me that I have not seen a really good picture that does a good and realistic outline of the whole process in a while, none so far that I consider truly good.
...and then there are the rps of course, which sometimes, well, are all about eating, not about being terrified or such and, well, it does make me wonder why, I mean, vore as a fill of horror and getting pleasant shivers of dread or a wicked feeling of watching something awful, yes, but just vore without that or sex, well, what is there then?
I mean, a vore picture should basically turn one on, or?
Another possibility is the "becoming part of somebody else" fantasy - they get eaten, consumed, absorbed by the predator, who is somebody they look up to or even worship. Also this can be sexy, but it doesn't have to.
For this reason I avoid using that word when it's not sexual, instead I would simply talk about 'predation' or 'getting eaten'. For instance, one of my favorite movies "Jaws" is not a "vore movie", but a horror movie where people get eaten by a shark. ;)
I guess, what astonishes me is that, well, personally, I find that sexual roleplay and non sexual roleplay, porny writing and non pronographic writing, etc. have a very different approach.
It is hard to explain it in words, but I guess it is about a certain kind of focus, and about what makes things art.
I do think pornography and "art" are note exclusive at all, but, well, I guess for me, it is this precise point where something feels like pornography, so to say, in being all about showing a certain act, in this case vore, but not, well sexual.
Sexual urges, I think, are a very universal motivator that is easy for most people to understand, even if it takes different forms, but what motivates one to like vore, like it was a fetish without applying sexuality or eroticism to it, no focus on arousing character of it?
Would a urge, just to be safely returned to a quasi womb, just about submitting then not rather place a great stress on this, build more around it, create more of a scenario?
It might be that I neither really understand the leap from being eaten to being safe, nor how to wish for dominance / submission without it being related to once sexual fancies at all, but it just puzzles me...
I can't really "understand" the willing (protected inside the belly) either, so I just leave it with "whatever rocks your boat". ;)
There could also be a difference between the type that involves death and the type that doesn't. It seems to me that usually the type that does involve death/gore is usually the kind without the sex which again leads more back to the reasons above why people might enjoy it.
Then again. who knows about some people sometimes? *shrug*
Just, it does make me wonder if they are enough to make it really a major devide, as it sometimes seems, between vore fans. Are otherwise asexual people just more likely to develop a vore fetish, ro are there other reasons?
Well, I can definitely not agree on the death part, most of the people I played with do enjoy death and sex both quite a lot and I also know many artists / art whores whose pics feature both heavily, think of MirandaDragon for example, who is usually very clear about rey being both for sex and food (only shame is that there are only two male predators by the owner).
I tended to mostly just find it strange, but I have to say, lately I really would like to know what vore gives to the people who aren't into it for the sex.
I suppose the other reason for the divide could be the level of seriousness people place into it. In some things, people who do a hobby for fun and those who take it very seriously can end up causing friction through insults, put downs, and whatever. Possibly it is something like that then? I don't take it too seriously after all.
And like I said, those who enjoy it by itself are in my view likely interested in the domination/submission aspect of it along with the struggle maybe?