I am of the opinion that it's not the chicken's fault, and at Chick-Fil-A, the chicken is still supporting its right to be tasty. I will still eat there, I will just make the staff cringe that they are having to serve a flamboyantly gay man wearing rainbows with an equally gay man around his arm.

Unless everyone is onboard, embargo's like not going to chick-fil-a simply will not succeed. Support your rights elsewhere, Warn, where they will be better recepted.

Actually, I kinda like this approach. I'm VERY straight, and...have my own opinions about "alternative lifestyles" in general, but there are just that - opinions. On the flip side, I have a good many gay and/or bi and/or...other...non-straight friends (mostly because of this fandom).

That said, I DO have a certain intolerance for intolerant people. Along with that, there is a certain...entertainment value in...expanding the minds of otherwise intolerant people, through...exposure to that which they are intolerant of. And seeing the looks on their faces. Based on this entertainment factor, I think it could be HIGHLY effective (or at least amusing) to have a "gay-in" at a Chick-Fil-A, in protest of their policies. In fact, I think I'm going to discuss this idea with a few individuals, and see if we can come up with something.

Just imagine the looks on the faces of the Chick-Fil-A managers, when a group of 10-15 people walks in, dressed VERY flamboyantly, and makes it clear through their actions (without being over-the-top) what they're about. But then they order a decent amount of food, sit down to eat like there's nothing unusual going on, and don't disrupt business, other than just being a bit of a spectacle. No one does enough to justify the group getting kicked out, but make it very obvious that it's a non-disruptive protest group.

*strokes his chin, pondering*

Meh, I like the sandwiches but don't feel that I should support an organization that encourages hate, and in the end that's what it adds up to. They want homosexual couples to be second class citizens.

But I will miss those tasty chicken boobies... the only breasts I ever really enjoyed.

I just don't see why me not eating them is going to make a difference. He is still going to donate profits to those organizations even if we don't eat there. There is so much money traded around from profits of retailers and food chains that if you were to trace all of them, you would find every place supports and anti gay organization somewhere down the line. It's like target. Ppl thought they supported anti-gay, when in reality they supported a political organization that supported up and coming young politicians, one of whom received benefits had an anti gay agenda. It's all politics, and I don't think that me not purchasing that one chicken sandwich will put a dent in it. Like women's rights and black equality, we WILL get our rights. It's a historical momentum.

Why contribute? Besides, there are other joints to go to. It's not exactly the healthiest thing to eat anyway.
While their profits go to anti-gay movements, the political support towards politician is just another thing to look at. It's not a matter of who's young and up and coming. It follows along with whatever political ideas match their own. There's no point in sugarcoating it. Each chicken sandwich you eat does make a difference sadly and you go back for more. How many sandwiches a year do you eat from there? Even if you eat one ever 2 months, that can be $50 towards their profits and campaign, multiply that by how many others you take there. Since the ban against chic-a-fuck in Massachusetts, this business changed their tactics in how they open their mouths and secretly promote their hateful message through religiously bent organizations while saying that they changed their ways and promote equality. They are just as bad as the politicians in that action. Their business becomes in jeopardy, so they put a face on while telling people they changed their ways.

What you have to ask yourself is whether this will go on to 10 to 20 years or even more as long as these types of businesses continue to promote intolerance. Simply assuming that a person's right will be obtain through historical momentum is just ignorant to the fact that these people will also be around. If you take a back seat and just watch as the political fighting ensues, how could you possibly think that these thing happen on their own. It's not historical momentum.

If you read my "I'm gay" journal you'll get another story about a regiously right wing bend businessman who's son was gay. The son is dead, can't carry one the fight for equality. But this businessman has contributed toward the opposing affect. That was until I had half his staff walk out on him and he's folding his business. You still think one person can't make a difference? You buy a sandwich which the profits will go to their hate campaign and go back for more, even promote their cause with indifferent standing and say it doesn't put a dent in it. I only had to say his son was gay and remind him that his true legacy died in another political movement he also promoted. His business is folding in less than 3 months. No one wants to work for him. His wife already left him because of her son. All I had to do was show them my gay flare on my shoulder and walk out.

I agree completely. Each person's actions makes a difference, it's the collective that makes the difference. Indifference to inequality is the same as supporting it. There's no such thing as the innocent bystander, by not acting you are consenting.

I'm am not indifferent to it, I just think that there are better forums to support gay rights and equality. Sadly, I don't believe that there is a way that we are going to change Chick-Fil-A's stance on our issue, but there are places that we could better assert our stance where it would be more effective. While I do believe that people in protest are costing chick-fil-a several million a month, you have to think that in the grand scheme of things that; just a drop in the bucket. Additionally, us not being there is exactly what they are encouraging. They do not want "the gay" in their family establishment. When we roll over and just stop showing up, they are winning because they are getting their way. I apologize if I conveyed an apathetic approach. My main meaning is there are better forums for our rights to be accepted whereas Chick-Fil-A I see as the immovable object (them) encountering the unstoppable force (gay activism).

A shop's a shop. Where you choose to eat there is up to you. Just because the inter media bleeding the whole chic-fil-a out of proportion, it shouldn't deter you from having a good old chicken sandwich.

I look at it less on a national level, and just at the level of the store I might eat at. Does shutting down a store just to prevent funds going to an unchristian organization provide any benefit to the employees staffed there? I'd suspect most of them have bills to pay at home, school to attend, families to feed, or other responsibilities to deal with. If enjoying a sandwich, and keeping the employees who may serve me well by the way, contributes to a problem I'd want to see stopped, I'd look at what other economic actions can be taken to counteract the problem. If I spend 5 bucks on a lunch, then donate 5 bucks elsewhere along the way to an organization that does support an effort that counteracts the hate. The 5 dollars I donate will do more than whatever sliver of profit is left over after paying for the chicken, people, and other expenses involved in making the lunch.

Or heaven forbid I get sadistic and actually buy stock in a company that does things like Chick-Fil-A, just so that when they do stupid stuff, I can have the pleasure of triggering their stock to dip when I sell them off for their petulance. Let them see the error of their ways when they lose money on Wall Street!

That one might be taking it a little far, but, the point is, If something like this bothers you, find ways to counteract the problem and even things out. The CEO will sooner or later be gone, and these wicked organizations will be exposed for what they are and shut down. In situations like these, there usually are ways to get the cake, or in this case tasty chicken, eat it guilt free too. Just gotta look around and see beyond just the local store itself.

They certainly did lose a lot of money because of the media attention. It'l be a while before the CEO is gone. It's a family run business though. And plenty of his family work for Chick fil A. What was awesome was the people did sell their stock in the company because their open actions against gay. Who wants to have anything to do with a company that risks a company's name for a political movement, with other people's money? But that's just one part against the business. Start or focus on something local, something within your hands makes the difference. It's easy to say something one could do, but following through is the major influence.

Well we don't eat there, partially because of all the anti-gay groups they donate too, and partially because while I do like they're food, it's overpriced for what you get. Oh, and I also always end up wanting it on Sunday, and the stupid place is closed on Sundays! So for me, it's two fold why I don't eat there- I don't like the religious aspect of the restaurant along with it's viewpoints, and they ask more money than I'm wiling to give for what I get.

The real question is, does it bother you. On a store by store basis, it's just regular everyday peeps who work there, and honestly, if you buy a chicken sandwich occasionally it's only a tiny fraction of the money you personally spend that goes to their organizations. Are you okay with that?

On a side note, I think there are websites online that'll show you how to make they're chicken sandwiches at home, down to the seasonings and cooking style for the chicken!

Ultimately it's about what's socially acceptable and what's not. There's alot of change that happens over time, much to the chagrin of past generations, and if someone doesn't take a stand, and at the least make it known that someone's actions or words, are not considered ok anymore, then things never really improve. Of course boycotting them wouldn't put them under, but then tha was never the point. The idea was to let them know, let the CEO know his thinking/words weren't acceptable. Even if only to a portion of the population. A portion that's becoming louder and stronger whether anyone likes it or not. People gotta take a stand somewhere. If people just sat around not trying to change anything, we'd still be doin some fucked up things.

Gah what is the big deal about their good. Hibachi Buffet for me

Good should be Food

Erm...

Just to let you guys know, me and Kojiro have discussed it and we are going to take our business elsewhere. This was not an easy decision for me, because I am a christian. Me and my mate are christian and I don't have anything against supporting christian organizations, which in general are against gay marriage, it's when the organization makes it their business to convert gays or actively lobby against gay marriage. I have to draw the line somewhere and as I stated before Truett Cathy does support some of these organizations. Though I can't see myself boycotting the place for the rest of my life, I may every once in a while grab a chicken sandwich, which is a far cry of going their every week and ordering two value menu, which is what we used to do.