Square Enix, you fucking suck.
13 years ago
>Get excited about Heroes of Ruin for 3ds.
>Buy Heroes of Ruin, game is big disappointment but whatever, 4 player online co op dungeon crawler on a handheld with tons of loot, it's hard for that to not be at least a bit of fun.
>Hear rumors of game breaking bug that occurs IF YOU PLAY THE GAME ONLINE. THe online being the games one redeeming quality.
>Get game breaking bug 15 hours in. Options are to restart the whole game and get the bug again, or quit playing.
>Go on official forum to find out when they will patch game. Find out they not only aren't patching it but they haven't posted in the threads about it or even acknowledged the game is broken. Have thread inquiring about the game breaking bug quietly moved to an off topic part of the forum nobody looks at.
>Post in other threads about the same bug (it's very common, like 40% of people who play it online get it) expressing discontent that they're not even acknowledging it exists.
>Get pm'd by a member of the studio who manages the forum threatening to permanently ban me if i continue to talk about the game breaking bug.
No wonder these douchebags are on the verge of bankruptcy if this is how you treat your consumers. Last SE game i ever buy. If you need something to play on your 3ds, this is not the game.
>Buy Heroes of Ruin, game is big disappointment but whatever, 4 player online co op dungeon crawler on a handheld with tons of loot, it's hard for that to not be at least a bit of fun.
>Hear rumors of game breaking bug that occurs IF YOU PLAY THE GAME ONLINE. THe online being the games one redeeming quality.
>Get game breaking bug 15 hours in. Options are to restart the whole game and get the bug again, or quit playing.
>Go on official forum to find out when they will patch game. Find out they not only aren't patching it but they haven't posted in the threads about it or even acknowledged the game is broken. Have thread inquiring about the game breaking bug quietly moved to an off topic part of the forum nobody looks at.
>Post in other threads about the same bug (it's very common, like 40% of people who play it online get it) expressing discontent that they're not even acknowledging it exists.
>Get pm'd by a member of the studio who manages the forum threatening to permanently ban me if i continue to talk about the game breaking bug.
No wonder these douchebags are on the verge of bankruptcy if this is how you treat your consumers. Last SE game i ever buy. If you need something to play on your 3ds, this is not the game.
However, they were also each others' largest competitors. Combining made them the de facto monopoly of console RPGs, and their recent games reflect this (See: Final Fantasy 13, Final Fantasy 14).
...second game turned out to be an iOS port of the first game with 20% of the DS game features cut out.
What the fuck?
You know, I wouldn't have believed this a few years ago, but that was before they released Final Fantasy 14.
but yeah, Square has been floundering for years since they've been putting out lemon after lemon with a lot of the franchises and trying to milk everything they can out of spin offs.
Dragon Quest seems to be the only thing they can do decently anymore and even then they're fucking it up trying to put out a lame Wii MMO.
I'm pretty sure the game was rightly a miserable flop, that's punishment enough.
7.. was crap. I don't usually quit an RPG, especially right near the end, but I just gave up on DQ7. The class system was poor for an RPG made after so many better ideas had come along, and the world was full of bathroom humor, in every damn town. >_< Wasn't too keen on DQ8's "hidden agenda leveling", where I put points into things and had no idea what I would get. I wrote the series off since then..
Which is possibly regretable, expect I haven't had time for the games I DO have. =P
Also,
> implying anything SE releases can be fun anymore
The one thing from them i've always loved is the final fantasy crystal chronicles games and i was hoping this would tide me over till they release another one on a nintendo handheld. Well it didn't lol.
It's weird, they released FFcc echoes of time, a 4 player online co op dungeon crawler hack and slash on ds a couple years ago and it was absolutely incredible. Then they release this turd and literally everything about it is so wack. The loot aspect is even useless becuase the game is so fucking easy you could probably just walk through it blindfolded mashing the attack button and beat any part of it other than the last boss.
The online setup which was frankly amazing seemed to be the one thing they got right and it turns out if you use it it BREAKS THE GAME lol.
I know! I had a blast with EOT (though I never finished it) even with it being so different from the original Gamecube release. Pisses me off that they'd just abandon that IP, when it genuinely has so much potential. Just the lore of the FFCC universe was fascinating to me.
Like I said below, SE is a publisher, and can't really be blamed for bad development decisions. But the scenario you're describing is definitely a classic example of awful publishers doing awful things - and getting away with it. I kind of want to suggest you demand a refund, really, but I would try my hardest to get the word out further about how awful they're being.
I dunno; most of those titles sound pretty fun and were pretty well received.
Kingdom Hearts... aw, man. I'm not going to put this up and clog Arjuna's journal, dude. I'll send you a note.
I didn't even like diablo 2 so i probably wouldn't like 3.
The big problem is money grubbing from all three. Whilst I don't begrudge a company making a profit, when it comes at the expense of their fanbase, I have a problem with it.
Online only...
DRM...
On-disk dlc...
Unfinished, untested betas released as full games.... and the list goes on. It's not simply these three companies, but the AAA gaming scene as a whole that needs a shakeup.
As for not caring about their fan base, the fact that Bioware is releasing a whole new end section to ME3 simply because their fans hated the ending is a testament to how much they care about their fans. I can't speak of blizzard/squeenix since i don't really play their games. IF what i experienced with HoR is how squeenix treats all their consumers, then yeah, fuck them.
Also, i like AAA games, this is the best generation ever imo. I simply just don't buy the ones that suck and i've never been short of a huge list of titles i still want to play.
As to Bioware, their Mass effect ending was the biggest F.U. to their fans that I've ever seen. It made a mockery of everything that game series was supposed to represent. They were NOT going to change it, despite the screaming of the rightfully pissed off masses. Then , SWtOR basically nosedived , their fans began to desert them in droves and a number of them were even tossing around words like 'class action lawsuit' and suddenly Bioware (and the real culprit behind all this crap, EA) realize their bank accounts are in danger of hemorrhaging. BAM , reworked ending.
Also, let me clarify, it's not the AAA games themselves that are all bad, a number of them were very good, it's the main AAA distributors ( EA/Activision) that are choking the industry.
Square lost me some time ago, but the other companies aren't doing SO bad. What annoys me is the companies aside from the one you've mentioned here aren't doing so GOOD in comparison. Until someone else steps up and challenges their work with something on a scale large enough to make people take some real notice...
Square Enix is simply a PUBLISHER.
I mean...Nintendo's "online" is really REALLY backwards compared to online gaming on the other platforms (XBL, PSN, Steam) ; lack of voice communication, the whole "Friend Code" system...
Nintendo's online mainframe feels really backwards compared to the other platforms and feels like the online platforms from a generation or two ago (PS2, Dreamcast)
That's not to say that there can't be voice chat associated with E-rated games, but Nintendo seems to be reluctant to add it to any game with a potential competitive online scene, like with Mario Kart games.
At that point, without saving, I turned the game off and just... never felt any drive to play it again. I never finished it.
Before that game, I would play a Final Fantasy game to excess, clocking hundreds of hours killing monsters and finding all the secrets and side missions. I would feel some level of connection with the characters, and enjoy picking my exact favorite team while leveling each character to max level. I think it was right there that Square was no longer the company for me, and their games lost me. And now when people talk about an issue with their games, they're quietly silencing them? ...Seems I made the right choice.
Theres SO much to it though, on paper and it could have been really good but all of it is completely pointless since they didn't balance the difficulty at all. Even the toughest boss battles in it take just 5 seconds of mindless hammering if you have 4 people to win. Loot is completely useless since enemies do like 1/20th of your health bar which not only almost instantly auto regens but you seirously find health potions every 5 feet. It's just absurd how many they give you. The game is devoid of even the tiniest modicum of challenge which makes the combat not even remotely entertaining.
DDoS their ass. If you don't take the cost of the game out of their ass somehow, they'll never learn that this kind of behavior is unacceptable.
at least there's still RE:Revelations (say what you want, i think it's a decent game... not perfect but certainly decent.)
Remember when they had lots of quality games? And friendly and helpful service??
I do.
I don't think they've been good for almost a decade, honestly!
EA is ruining Bioware for example..
Activision is ruining Blizzard
Enix ruined Square.
and Ubisoft is pretty much ruining it for EVERYONE.
=^.,.^=
It does seem as though the whole global gaming industry is in something of a rut, but remember, this has happened before; the gaming industry nearly kicked the bucket in '82, and were close to it again before the PS1 and Dreamcast came out. A few years later, we got things like FFIX, which remains my very favorite game ever. Have faith.
I can definitely agree that this game could have been much better if they wouldn't have rushed it and reused the same areas with slightly altered stages.
I am curious though, have you beridden yourself of the game or do you still have it?
And where the hell is my Chrono Trigger sequel? And I'm not talking about Chrono Cross either. The game was all right, could have done without 40+ rather shallow characters but I digress.
After XIII I really, really lost my taste for them. XIII was utter shit. I turned it off and walked away after a boss turned on some hidden doom-counter-timer thing. Want to play defensively and drag a battle on? NOT ON MY WATCH apparently.
They're really going down the shitter.