If we count every character that isn't yours as fanart, then yeah, there's a lot. I remember in your gallery what stood out to me was original work, but I did notice a number of commissions.
So, what brought this sudden change of attitude? Did you notice all your watchers come out of the woods at the sound of requests or...?
Just the usual "people don't like this image because it's actually good or because they like my art, this piece is just riding on the coattails of the original artist's design" thing, when some specific image becomes much more popular than any other of my pics, fanart or otherwise.
Where did I say that?
I did a fanart, it got lots of views/likes/faves and I felt that it wasn't liked because it was actually any good, but because people liked the character (which wasn't mine).
Oh, haha, yeah that was my first thought. Just makin sure.
Anyway, I definitively don't like this whole fanart cult going around. People are shallow as hell. The second they see something recognizable their approval skyrockets, even if the quality is crap. What I can't for the life of me understand is why the ideas of artists online are so much less worthy than ideas of "professional" artists. If I want to see a good character or read an interesting story, it'd be logical to assume I'd want to see something new, rather than something repetitive. It's like the professional artists are the only ones allowed to have ideas and the online artists' job is just to reproduce these ideas.
I mean, I'm not against fanart itself, but people's priorities are seriously messed up. Original work should be the more appreciated, but instead fanart gets treated like it's the only thing worth looking at.
Actually I'd say it's more logical to search something repetitive if you want to see good characters or interesting stories. After all if you like character/story X, then there's much less risks and higher chance for you to like character/story X.2 that features similar elements, author/artist or characters, rather than something completely different, like story Y that doesn't have familiar elements and thus has a higher chance of you not liking it.
That's generally a part of why there's so many sequels and re-imaginings and things that rely on brand recognition.
Obviously that's not true, as you'll find lots of interesting and good things outside your general interest area, but from a human logic viewpoint there's less sense of going further to fish, if you get what I mean.
Also the ideas of online artists tend to be a lot more likely to be crap or badly executed, as well as lacking that "glory" (in the same sense that many people tend to consider their ideas sucky and bad because they can't look at them with unbiased eyes) which probably also adds to the uninterest of other's original ideas.
However that has nothing to do with this case since the image was someone elses original character.
I guess that's something I won't be able to understand. If I like character/story X, I like it because it's something new, hence, interesting. Most fanart doesn't do anything new with the characters and when it does, it's not the same level of newness as original work. If I like an artist, wouldn't it make sense that I'd be more interested in what they came up with, rather than them just drawing other people's designs? I know that people are statistically more likely to find fan-art, I don't understand why watchers and people who already like the artist don't care for their original ideas. Even with someone else's character, a bad idea is still crap.
Actually, I think online ideas are more approachable, in visual arts at least, because you can quickly decide whether you like the style and the ideas coming with it. With, say, movies, you have to sit your ass down for an hour and a half before you can decide whether it's crap or not (Sturgeon's law says it will be). So you can either rely on good reviews or stick with what you think looks interesting, the latter which I'd say is the same principle used in evaluating art online. The lack of glory is definitively a factor. For some reason people respect art a lot more when it's coming from some kind of a god you can only reach through the credits, rather than a real, ordinary person.
Ok, that's weird. I'm not sure why people would be more interested in art that features another online original character. Was it because this character is one of those massively popular ones?
Well, to me something being new or interesting pretty rarely means I'd like it. To me, the characters that I really like the most are generally the ones that I feel most connection with, like they struggle with problems that I struggle with too and I thus have a sense of "familiarity" with the character (generally which is why the "Loser is You/Cool Loser" tropes are often used because lot of people like what they can identify with) of then they just have some specific quirk/design thing that I like.
Especially since to me it's somewhat hard to find something actually new these days (like in the character I drew, there was nothing I hadn't seen before, though the design choices were something I had seen used a lot rarely) and though I can find something new, it's still unlikely I'd like it just because it's new or interesting to me. Like "Ass Goblins of Auschwitz" definitely had some new ideas but they certainly didn't win me over to like them.
"I don't understand why watchers and people who already like the artist don't care for their original ideas."
Probably because their ideas may just suck and be boring. Not to all people, as there's always someone who likes what you do, but some people just don't have very original ideas.
Which actually might bring me to the "I think online ideas are more approachable" because though you can quickly decide whether you like something visually, it's can be a huge pain to find out more of the character or story they belong to if the artist doesn't feel like drawing more or explaining (like I have a couple characters/stories that I really wish the artist would continue in the comic they say they'd want to do but they never will because they don't have time/skill) and eventually the artist will move on and abandon the character, where as with a movie you can read the Wiki/TvTropes article and decide to watch/read it and even if the story may not have been that good, at least you got the resolution and you're not going to be left into the limbo of wishing that the artist would just do the comic when you know they won't. (Well, aside waiting for sequels and such.)
Nope, not really. It had rarer design choices but over all it just kinda proves that my art means nothing in the image.
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So, what brought this sudden change of attitude? Did you notice all your watchers come out of the woods at the sound of requests or...?
I did a fanart, it got lots of views/likes/faves and I felt that it wasn't liked because it was actually any good, but because people liked the character (which wasn't mine).
Anyway, I definitively don't like this whole fanart cult going around. People are shallow as hell. The second they see something recognizable their approval skyrockets, even if the quality is crap. What I can't for the life of me understand is why the ideas of artists online are so much less worthy than ideas of "professional" artists. If I want to see a good character or read an interesting story, it'd be logical to assume I'd want to see something new, rather than something repetitive. It's like the professional artists are the only ones allowed to have ideas and the online artists' job is just to reproduce these ideas.
I mean, I'm not against fanart itself, but people's priorities are seriously messed up. Original work should be the more appreciated, but instead fanart gets treated like it's the only thing worth looking at.
That's generally a part of why there's so many sequels and re-imaginings and things that rely on brand recognition.
Obviously that's not true, as you'll find lots of interesting and good things outside your general interest area, but from a human logic viewpoint there's less sense of going further to fish, if you get what I mean.
Also the ideas of online artists tend to be a lot more likely to be crap or badly executed, as well as lacking that "glory" (in the same sense that many people tend to consider their ideas sucky and bad because they can't look at them with unbiased eyes) which probably also adds to the uninterest of other's original ideas.
However that has nothing to do with this case since the image was someone elses original character.
Actually, I think online ideas are more approachable, in visual arts at least, because you can quickly decide whether you like the style and the ideas coming with it. With, say, movies, you have to sit your ass down for an hour and a half before you can decide whether it's crap or not (Sturgeon's law says it will be). So you can either rely on good reviews or stick with what you think looks interesting, the latter which I'd say is the same principle used in evaluating art online. The lack of glory is definitively a factor. For some reason people respect art a lot more when it's coming from some kind of a god you can only reach through the credits, rather than a real, ordinary person.
Ok, that's weird. I'm not sure why people would be more interested in art that features another online original character. Was it because this character is one of those massively popular ones?
Especially since to me it's somewhat hard to find something actually new these days (like in the character I drew, there was nothing I hadn't seen before, though the design choices were something I had seen used a lot rarely) and though I can find something new, it's still unlikely I'd like it just because it's new or interesting to me. Like "Ass Goblins of Auschwitz" definitely had some new ideas but they certainly didn't win me over to like them.
"I don't understand why watchers and people who already like the artist don't care for their original ideas."
Probably because their ideas may just suck and be boring. Not to all people, as there's always someone who likes what you do, but some people just don't have very original ideas.
Which actually might bring me to the "I think online ideas are more approachable" because though you can quickly decide whether you like something visually, it's can be a huge pain to find out more of the character or story they belong to if the artist doesn't feel like drawing more or explaining (like I have a couple characters/stories that I really wish the artist would continue in the comic they say they'd want to do but they never will because they don't have time/skill) and eventually the artist will move on and abandon the character, where as with a movie you can read the Wiki/TvTropes article and decide to watch/read it and even if the story may not have been that good, at least you got the resolution and you're not going to be left into the limbo of wishing that the artist would just do the comic when you know they won't. (Well, aside waiting for sequels and such.)
Nope, not really. It had rarer design choices but over all it just kinda proves that my art means nothing in the image.