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Artist Beware: Shiuk
13 years ago
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http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/624634.html
WHO: Shiuk, Shiuk Salamander
WHERE:
, transaction took place at RainFurrest 2011
WHAT: Digital Art priced at $80 (NSFW, details in image Email_August_2012.png )
WHEN:
September 24, 2011 (RainFurrest 2011) - Last day I was going to be available at the convention, bought commission from Shiuk and paid in full up front.
December 1, 2011 (FurAffinity Notes) - First checkup on the status of commission. Timely reply later that day.
January 21, 2012 (FurAffinity Notes) - Request for commission status update. No reply.
May 18, 2012 (FurAffinity Notes) - Request for commission status update. No reply.
June 21, 2012 (FurAffinity Notes) - Request for commission status update or refund. No reply.
August 6, 2012 (Email exchange) - Reply from Shiuk offering to refund my purchase.
September 17, 2012 (Email exchange) - Request for update on refund. No reply.
PROOF:
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....al_Payment.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....st_Checkup.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....Reply_Note.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....ry_Checkup.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....n_Check-Up.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....nd_Request.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....ugust_2021.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....fund_Email.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....ber_1_2012.png
EXPLAIN: The whole story is basically outlined in the timeline of events as shown above. At RainFurrest 2011, I purchased a commission from him, but it was towards the end of the convention and I didn't want him to rush mine and the commissions ahead of me done, so I paid extra to have it done digitally and sent to me at a later date. I paid in full up front. Over the course of the next year's time, I've attempted to contact him via FurAffinity notes and emails asking for updates on the status of the commission and getting very few replies. After loosing my job in February of 2012, I made the decision to request a refund. In August, he finally emailed me back, offering a refund. Since then, I've made attempts to contact Shiuk though email, FurAffinity notes, and both InkBunny notes and Facebook (at the suggestions of a few friends) on a possible ETA for the refund, with no success.
UPDATE 1: I've been attempting to contact Shiuk once a week (or so, give or take a day) ever since September 17 and have continued to receive no word back from Shiuk. Looking at my Notes Outbox, all of my FA notes to Shiuk show as not being read, and with this persistent silence, I can only assume he's ignoring my emails to him and my notes on Inkbunny.
UPDATE 2: At the request of a friend of mine, I'm no longer sending him notes and emails once a week, but have switched to messaging him every time I see him uploading something somewhere (typically on Inkbunny), or once a month, whichever comes first. I've still received no words back from him, but he at least knows I'm trying to contact him because he deletes my shouts on his FurAffinity page whenever I ask about my refund or link to this journal entry.
UPDATE 3: I sent Shiuk an email, saying that I would take my case to the FurAffinity admins and to Paypal if he didn't deliver my refund within a week's time; not exactly the smartest thing to do, on top of being continusouly stressed by this, which is not the best mindset for making decissions. I received an email back from Shiuk (see November_1_2012.png) saying that misunderstood the initial message (and I will admit I'm wrong if I did) and that he'd have the refund for me when he is "capable of doing so"; since that doesn't give me any time frame of reference, I asked for clarification.
WHO: Shiuk, Shiuk Salamander
WHERE:
, transaction took place at RainFurrest 2011WHAT: Digital Art priced at $80 (NSFW, details in image Email_August_2012.png )
WHEN:
September 24, 2011 (RainFurrest 2011) - Last day I was going to be available at the convention, bought commission from Shiuk and paid in full up front.
December 1, 2011 (FurAffinity Notes) - First checkup on the status of commission. Timely reply later that day.
January 21, 2012 (FurAffinity Notes) - Request for commission status update. No reply.
May 18, 2012 (FurAffinity Notes) - Request for commission status update. No reply.
June 21, 2012 (FurAffinity Notes) - Request for commission status update or refund. No reply.
August 6, 2012 (Email exchange) - Reply from Shiuk offering to refund my purchase.
September 17, 2012 (Email exchange) - Request for update on refund. No reply.
PROOF:
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....al_Payment.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....st_Checkup.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....Reply_Note.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....ry_Checkup.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....n_Check-Up.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....nd_Request.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....ugust_2021.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....fund_Email.png
http://i749.photobucket.com/albums/.....ber_1_2012.png
EXPLAIN: The whole story is basically outlined in the timeline of events as shown above. At RainFurrest 2011, I purchased a commission from him, but it was towards the end of the convention and I didn't want him to rush mine and the commissions ahead of me done, so I paid extra to have it done digitally and sent to me at a later date. I paid in full up front. Over the course of the next year's time, I've attempted to contact him via FurAffinity notes and emails asking for updates on the status of the commission and getting very few replies. After loosing my job in February of 2012, I made the decision to request a refund. In August, he finally emailed me back, offering a refund. Since then, I've made attempts to contact Shiuk though email, FurAffinity notes, and both InkBunny notes and Facebook (at the suggestions of a few friends) on a possible ETA for the refund, with no success.
UPDATE 1: I've been attempting to contact Shiuk once a week (or so, give or take a day) ever since September 17 and have continued to receive no word back from Shiuk. Looking at my Notes Outbox, all of my FA notes to Shiuk show as not being read, and with this persistent silence, I can only assume he's ignoring my emails to him and my notes on Inkbunny.
UPDATE 2: At the request of a friend of mine, I'm no longer sending him notes and emails once a week, but have switched to messaging him every time I see him uploading something somewhere (typically on Inkbunny), or once a month, whichever comes first. I've still received no words back from him, but he at least knows I'm trying to contact him because he deletes my shouts on his FurAffinity page whenever I ask about my refund or link to this journal entry.
UPDATE 3: I sent Shiuk an email, saying that I would take my case to the FurAffinity admins and to Paypal if he didn't deliver my refund within a week's time; not exactly the smartest thing to do, on top of being continusouly stressed by this, which is not the best mindset for making decissions. I received an email back from Shiuk (see November_1_2012.png) saying that misunderstood the initial message (and I will admit I'm wrong if I did) and that he'd have the refund for me when he is "capable of doing so"; since that doesn't give me any time frame of reference, I asked for clarification.
This whole situation is just heartbreaking and stressful and I just want my refund so I can put it behind me and move on.
I.e., if Neer or someone does want this taken down, suspends Rendan, or any other kind of reprimand, I call foul. Not that it makes any difference, of course.
However though, on the forums (I did a bit of research) I've seen mod posts telling users to worn others of another user when it comes to artists vs commissioners or visa versa but in a polite and reasonable way so that not to cause drama. But I don't know how the forum mods/rules effect the main site ^^; I've been here less than a year and am still very new to past disagreements the community has had with itself.
You could be right, and I guess the mods will reveal if there is a problem in what Rendan did, but as I said I personally think that it'd be wrong to forbid the sort of thing Rendan did if it can be done on Artist Beware and links to that site can be made here.