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More skanky crap from Paypal...
13 years ago
"MORELS taste good in omelettes..."
I know Paypal has been doing some updating on their site- I see a lot of format and appearance changes- but apparently, there are some other changes that are less obvious. To anyone who has a Paypal account, I suggest reading over their updated Agreement material, because it seems that there is a nasty little clause in there about 'if you agree to the changes, you are now exempt from being able to participate in class-action suits against Paypal, and can only sue them on an individual basis'. WTF?
Ok, that is NOT fucking cool. Who the hell has the money or power to sue a massive company like Paypal (which also owns Ebay, by the way)? Seriously? Class-action suits are not just ambulance-chaser fodder. Sometimes, it's the only way someone with a grievance can get any justice against a corporate fucktard that's screwing them over: get involved with other people who have been dealt the same shit and take the buggers to court. i guess too many corporate slimeballs are losing in the courts, so they're doing their sneaky best to prevent this from happening anymore. I'm pretty sure it's mostly common-knowledge that more and more companies are pulling this one their customers. At least one country that I know of has made this kind of shenanigans illegal: Germany. Hopefully, more will follow suit in protecting consumers over the corporations who only really care about making more gold than Midas. *eyeroll*
Well, while this is a new low for the jerks at Paypal (and, yes, I still use them for lack of anything better.
kanis has suggested that I consider Google-Wallet, though), there is one small hope: you can opt out of the agreement. It involves writing a letter to that effect, specifically detailing what it is you are opting out of, and it's one of those things you just aren't told about until you COMPLAIN and PESTER these jackasses a lot... See this blog-entry for what I mean (and the author gives pretty specific instructions on how to go about the process, too): https://magneticcrow.wordpress.com/.....policy-update/
Paypal, you should be effing ashamed for your shady practices. Is it any wonder more and more people are leaving your service? Stop fucking over your customers, and you might get to KEEP them! SO not impressed, right now.
Look around, folks, for a better Net-based money service that doesn't pull this shit on you. I know I will. And I thought Paypal locking down one person's funds around Christmas last year because she was holding a donation-drive for needy kids on her blog was in poor taste, but this is just sneaky, slimy and so very, very wrong...
Ok, that is NOT fucking cool. Who the hell has the money or power to sue a massive company like Paypal (which also owns Ebay, by the way)? Seriously? Class-action suits are not just ambulance-chaser fodder. Sometimes, it's the only way someone with a grievance can get any justice against a corporate fucktard that's screwing them over: get involved with other people who have been dealt the same shit and take the buggers to court. i guess too many corporate slimeballs are losing in the courts, so they're doing their sneaky best to prevent this from happening anymore. I'm pretty sure it's mostly common-knowledge that more and more companies are pulling this one their customers. At least one country that I know of has made this kind of shenanigans illegal: Germany. Hopefully, more will follow suit in protecting consumers over the corporations who only really care about making more gold than Midas. *eyeroll*
Well, while this is a new low for the jerks at Paypal (and, yes, I still use them for lack of anything better.
kanis has suggested that I consider Google-Wallet, though), there is one small hope: you can opt out of the agreement. It involves writing a letter to that effect, specifically detailing what it is you are opting out of, and it's one of those things you just aren't told about until you COMPLAIN and PESTER these jackasses a lot... See this blog-entry for what I mean (and the author gives pretty specific instructions on how to go about the process, too): https://magneticcrow.wordpress.com/.....policy-update/Paypal, you should be effing ashamed for your shady practices. Is it any wonder more and more people are leaving your service? Stop fucking over your customers, and you might get to KEEP them! SO not impressed, right now.
Look around, folks, for a better Net-based money service that doesn't pull this shit on you. I know I will. And I thought Paypal locking down one person's funds around Christmas last year because she was holding a donation-drive for needy kids on her blog was in poor taste, but this is just sneaky, slimy and so very, very wrong...
This is only further proof that they, as a multi-business owned company, are replacing realistic ideas with sheer Sycophantic Greed.
Just hoping for the day where we can all walk outside and burn these useless pieces of paper we put value on and melt down these round hunks of metal to be used for something more useful then weighing down our pockets.
So far, I have hit dead end after dead end. At this point, I would suggest that since you two DONT do adult transactions, maybe look into Square, Alert Pay, and Payoneer in addition to Google Wallet
Incidentally, what made them think they could sneak this new change in and that NO ONE would notice it and NO ONE WOULD tweet/facebook about it to spread the word on how sneaky they think they are?
Pfft! no kidding. It's as if they think folks haven't become so disillusioned that they won't read the small fucking print. Yeah, pull the other one, guys. It is BECAUSE of shenanigans like this more and more people are being cynical and going through the fine print to save their butts from some shady dealings. Ugh. Paypal. :-/ Yeesh.
"So far, I have hit dead end after dead end. At this point, I would suggest that since you two DONT do adult transactions, maybe look into Square, Alert Pay, and Payoneer in addition to Google Wallet"
Dang. The fetish thing may be an issue for me, too: I do the odd adult-illustration and will make adult items, too. Frak. It won't be a problem for
Kani did mention Google Wallet and I might investigate them.
For Wildgasmasks, it would be a huge blow if we were found out and our Paypal was turned off...unless we can find a solution before that time comes. I really dont want to try and continue using Paypal for our business with the hope that they wont notice. Problem is, adult businesses are considered "high risk" by most merchants and so, for the solutions that do exist for adult, there are big fees involved. So, if you dont do a high enough volume, than its not worth it for you. Incidentally, if Paypal ever does find out about Wildgasmasks and then turns the account off, my personal Paypal will also be gone.
PS: Incidentally, I also have an adult toy store online. Its done through an affiliate program. So, the customers buy from my store, and it goes through a normal payment gateway (like Verisign, etc...)/merchant account that the affiliate program uses for all affiliate toy stores. So yeah, I have been able to have that business for over 3 years and not had to deal with Paypal to get paid for it.
Paypal is doing what!?
Yeah, I'm opting out of that opt-out.
As for me, I bookmarked the page and I'll prolly draft something out this weekend..... Wonder if I should send it registered mail or not.....
Seriously, i have not send a letter through real mail few years now, not even for folks when I'm vacation.
Lucky for me I didn't put any money into it yet, so I was able to shut it down without risk of them "accidentally" keeping my money...
Seriously, when are people gonna stop sitting in front of the TVs watching "reality" crap all day and actually stand up for their rights? These big companies are only going to keep pushing the limits on what they can do until they're stopped.
If everyone quit Paypal they'd soon break down and go out of business. And dirty companies like this deserve to go out of business.
They see their customers as nothing more than cash cows, so it's time for the cows to stop letting themselves get milked every day!
The big corporations think they own everyone, but the truth is they need our co-operation to keep raking in our money, and there's their weakness. They can't buy governments and unfair laws if they can't make the money to do it.