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They must have done (insert drug name) to come up with that
13 years ago
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I don't really appreciate the whole attitude that if someone comes up with something really weird or trippy that they must be doing some type of drugs of some sort. I've heard this from a number of different people over the years and It's getting tiresome.
I'll give you two recent examples (non-furry) that stick out. My band played a "sesame street" based show recently where we had to cover songs from sesame street. I was extremely elated about this show because I LOVE the music and animations that went along with old school sesame street. (that link will send you to one of the songs we covered) So anyway, the band that went on before us were a bunch of older people, and the lead singer went on this rant about how sesame street was invented by a bunch of stoners who got really fucked up one day and decided to write a children's show sesame street. I thought the whole rant was in pour taste. I don't know, it just annoyed me, like this 40 something year old claiming all the makers of sesame street came up with it by doing a ton of drugs. Maybe that is what happened, I don't know.
Another situation was while I was watching regular show at college, which is one of my favorite shows, and one of my friends said that all the people who work on the show smoke a ton of weed before they work on it. That really pissed me off and i started arguing with him saying that you don't need to smoke weed or do drugs to come up with weird shit, or be creative at all for that matter, and there's no reason to assume the makers of Regular show or Adventure time do drugs to come up with their storylines.
The concept that in order to be creative or come up with off-kilter things or characters or stories you must be completely obliterated is just a shit concept. I guess it just hits me personally because I feel like I could have come up with a show like Regular show and I don't smoke weed or do any drugs. Hell, my dream job would be to work on regular show. If I got hired there and found everyone was smoking weed to come up with stuff, I'd be really upset. Whenever I do smoke weed, which happens like once every 3 years, I become too lazy and shitty to come up with anything. I just come up with bizarre shit all the time on a regular basis without any outside help. Maybe it's a creative gift, maybe it's a curse, maybe it's both because I can't really relate to anyone and I get told I'm weird all the time. As a community of very art oriented people, you can probably all relate to this.
Just for the record, I never smoke weed when I draw anything or do any fursuit videos or ever usually. I think weed is a waste of money and my apartment smelled like it for 3 years because of my deadbeat room mate that I previously lived with, consequently I'd be fine with never smelling it again. No offense to you stoners out there, I still think it should be legalized but I just don't like it myself.
I'll give you two recent examples (non-furry) that stick out. My band played a "sesame street" based show recently where we had to cover songs from sesame street. I was extremely elated about this show because I LOVE the music and animations that went along with old school sesame street. (that link will send you to one of the songs we covered) So anyway, the band that went on before us were a bunch of older people, and the lead singer went on this rant about how sesame street was invented by a bunch of stoners who got really fucked up one day and decided to write a children's show sesame street. I thought the whole rant was in pour taste. I don't know, it just annoyed me, like this 40 something year old claiming all the makers of sesame street came up with it by doing a ton of drugs. Maybe that is what happened, I don't know.
Another situation was while I was watching regular show at college, which is one of my favorite shows, and one of my friends said that all the people who work on the show smoke a ton of weed before they work on it. That really pissed me off and i started arguing with him saying that you don't need to smoke weed or do drugs to come up with weird shit, or be creative at all for that matter, and there's no reason to assume the makers of Regular show or Adventure time do drugs to come up with their storylines.
The concept that in order to be creative or come up with off-kilter things or characters or stories you must be completely obliterated is just a shit concept. I guess it just hits me personally because I feel like I could have come up with a show like Regular show and I don't smoke weed or do any drugs. Hell, my dream job would be to work on regular show. If I got hired there and found everyone was smoking weed to come up with stuff, I'd be really upset. Whenever I do smoke weed, which happens like once every 3 years, I become too lazy and shitty to come up with anything. I just come up with bizarre shit all the time on a regular basis without any outside help. Maybe it's a creative gift, maybe it's a curse, maybe it's both because I can't really relate to anyone and I get told I'm weird all the time. As a community of very art oriented people, you can probably all relate to this.
Just for the record, I never smoke weed when I draw anything or do any fursuit videos or ever usually. I think weed is a waste of money and my apartment smelled like it for 3 years because of my deadbeat room mate that I previously lived with, consequently I'd be fine with never smelling it again. No offense to you stoners out there, I still think it should be legalized but I just don't like it myself.
ON STEROIDS
hyuk hyuk hy-*shot*
Can't tell you how sick I get of hearing this.
The only thing people on drugs get accomplished is more drugs.
and a lot of my art in general
plz dont demonize it thx
That said, it seems a bit naive to assume that JG Quintel isn't drawing from stoner comedy, particularly considering 2 in the am pm, a short he made in 2006.
And best illustrated by 4'33"
I suppose I harbor rape fantasies.
I would think of less amusing as "If music be the food of love, Bach had a lot of children," or something like that.
They're probably only good at... say... pushing buttons on a register, and maybe not even that so much.
I've gotten like, "What were you on, man?!" etc... It's like "I was on my chair with a funny sounding synthesizer" ugh
UGH Am i rite?
Uhgggggg
You have a great sense of humor!! That's all it is. And a passion to draw and make people smile and leave happy awesome comments on your posts. Plz never stop!! <3
A lot of times drugs just enhance what you already have though, right? I don't need an excuse to tap into that kind of thinking and stuff. It's pretty annoying that people seem to think they do. I guess it's also kind of sad? I'd hate to have so little imagination...
I was once walking into our little gated community back in Beijing, all alone, smiling like a doofus because I'd gotten a sweet text from my friend. The guard saw me looking too jolly or something, and pulled me over and checked my bags. I laughed it off because it's so embarrassing, but it was really gross. I was literally doing nothing differently but looking extremely happy and dopey.
I got pulled over for looking -too happy-.
The long hair thing happened to my dad growing up too. He was really picked on for being a hippy, especially by cops and stuff.
I like how other people decide you're doing drugs, and then mistreat you because of it.
Let this be a lesson to us all
DON'T BE TOO INTERESTING
I get that sometimes and it's like, whyyyy
do people even think about how rude it must be
On a somewhat amusing note, one of my friends in high school said that if I did smoke weed, I would probably end up drawing exceedingly boring things- such as potted plants.
I've seen a couple Scurrow videos, I think they're great ^^
also i doubt anyone is still sticking around the journal to read my perspective, but whatev $.02 and all that-
I don't think Quintel or Henson necessarily created on drugs, and I don't think people who have made art that doesn't look like shit with drugs as part of their art process would think so either. Henson was a graphic designer in the 60's making popular tv. There's no way he wasn't drawing influence off of his contemporaries, many of whom were drawing inspiration from lsd, but that doesn't mean he was doing lsd to get ideas. Quintel, similarly wanted to do a show about 20-something slackers in the 70's-80's, so he draws off of existing humor written about 80's stoner/slacker culture. You don't have to be stoned to make a show about kids getting stoned/ the aesthetics of the culture. Very unlikely that two people who have infinitely SO MUCH work to do as directors/lead artists for hugely popular tv shows would be able to have enough time to get totally ripped up ALL THE TIME and at the same time come up with consistent ideas and meet deadlines. It would be pretty naive to claim Quintel has never smoked before and his jokes aren't sometimes ABOUT drugs, even if he doesn't do them, though, IMHO.
i get what you mean about the old dudes though, sounds like they were crabby and making fun of the show
im tired
i can debate more in the morning :D
I'm not mad at people that smoke or do drugs!
That said, I am pretty sure J.G. Quintel and the RS writers smoke weed... I do recall that 4:20 appears conspicuously on clocks a suspicious amount of times if you look.
... and then there is this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y894QNtX0VA. That kind of defies argument, lol.
Thinking IS a dangerous pastime.
I had a bad experience with pot. Haven't touched it in 20 years.
I'm just glad that other people can seem to imagine interesting stuff sometimes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDm0PqjAF78
I had dreams about pinballs for years because of that thing.
I bought the 40th anniversary DVD that came out a few years back... total nostalgia fest. Mad painters and throbbing music in steelmills.
The music in this always returns to me to 1979 or thereabouts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrgpSP0aPfM
In our defense, nobody did that song for the show.
I've done some writing while high, but it turned out to be utter nonsense. I've tried to write some music while high, and either didn't get far with it, or it was strange, whimsical, and largely uninteresting--in short, it sounded like something that wasn't very good.
I think inspiration can come about from altered states, but to really turn that inspiration into something, I think you need your brain in normal working order. I suppose the trick is capturing enough while "in the moment" so that you can build from it when you can think more clearly.
Somewhat similarly, is the idea that very creative people must be crazy, or somehow unstable. It certainly happens, perhaps more often than otherwise as seeing the world differently can lead to interacting with it differently, and the effects of "craziness" can be used for inspiration...but I get tired of hearing, "well you creative types..." and then something about some shortcoming we have (although it's usually implied that it's forgiven because of our creativity).
And yes, the drug allusion is annoying. It's even insulting, because they're really saying: "You're not creative enough to come up with such ideas on your own, so you must have been stoned." I never took drugs in my life, aside from some headache or cold medicine, and when I used to drink coffee (which I dropped years ago). When I sent this video to Funday Pawpet Show: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcCTORZnyqQ , the first and only reaction I got was "Dude, lay off the drugs man". It was a joke, but it still was irritating.
Maybe I can do a ukulele fursuit video of that song!
That nimbus video is absolutely adorable btw. I watched it like 5 times.
And thank you! I'm glad and honored you liked it!
Musically, it's very close to "And She Was" by the Talking Heads (and lyrically has one or two references to songs of theirs). "And She Was" is quite arguably about a woman who's high on LSD. The whacky and zany stuff shown in the animation gets that "omg drugz" responds, but arguably the idea could easily be "hey, let's do some silly things to make kids giggle, and have weird wobbly images because it'll hold their interest."
Also, this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19hRQfZdTr4
I like to bust it out occasionally with some of the younger classes I teach. I really hope people try and say "drugs" about that one. Its title explains why that's not the case, and the music was picked for having an unusual sound...it's very organized, not somebody's stoned whatever.
What classes do you teach?
I teach "general music" classes for Kindergarten thru 5th grade, which consists of forcing the children to listen to music they don't usually listen to, occasional singing, and recognizing some basic elements of music. Older kids get a rhythm project, and some musician reports.
I also technically give music lessons...flute, trumpet, clarinet, trombone, percussion, saxophone, violin, viola, cello...my students don't seem to learn much as far as playing their instruments, though. So these are more like "kid holds an instrument and makes noises" sessions.
Consider yourself blessed that you can and have created worlds of your own devising. The doorways that most people bang away at for their whole lives were thrown open for you. Step through and beyond!
(This could sound stonish, most likely it does. Or just cribbed from lousy versions of pop prophets.)
Also I don't know if you saw that link of the dude who supposedly "took every drug known to man, then did self portraits on each" was going around, I just thought that was such bullshit. Like, everyone has preconceived notions how they will react to a drug, and the style of each drawing is way more likely to be affected by that than the actual effects of the drug.
Anyways, most 'creative' insights that DO involve LSD or pot (or sometimes other drugs) probably arise when the person who's done the drugs looks back at the experience(s) with a sober mind.
sorry if that made no sense I'm no good at talking
also he might think the really weird shit is scary because ILLUMINATI