I like this idea, just don't over do it, it should be fun for you to do. Perhaps you could also have it that people can suggest ideas for these YCH pictures

Well yeah, I wouldn't do it unless I was enjoying it, which is why I'm trying to minimize complaints

Cool, I'll keep an eye out for these

I'm never a fan of first-come first-serve but the rest seem fine.
This is a nice idea, though~

Any other suggestions are welcome. I'm in the same boat when it comes to first-serve as well, I just couldn't think of any other way to do it that wasn't just a "I'll pick my favourite". Any ideas?

Frankly, I'd rather you pick characters that appeal to you instead of just not drawing characters you dislike, but it's your decision in the end. I'm basically always in favor of methods that avoid giving art whores what they want, mostly >.>
There's really no good way to give out free art though, honestly :T

True that, though I was trying to avoid that to keep people from being able to wine about me picking favourites. I guess it'd likely be better though.

Pshh, the people whining about that are the ones who think they're entitled to free art. Let them whine.

I'd still rather try to avoid it

Ehh, your choice in the end either way.

What does YCH stand for?

Your character here

Oh

Your character here, in my opinion I am very bleh about the idea though, just something feels so bizarre just posting one's character on a template though. Though then again Ranger is offering it for free, so it is rather trivial of a gripe.

What they said

Yeah :P

how this works? i never hear before of a YCH

YCH is basically where an artist sketches a picture and allows people to buy a "slot" for a character in the picture. The slot they by will become their character n the finished picture

mmmm sounds pretty good, how can i join? :)

If I end up doing them then you'll need to apply on the submission itself, not here.

oki ^^

This could be quite an interesting idea in practice. Makes every day an exciting gamble with looking at FA! :)

Apparently that's not good enough for a lot of people :/

Bah, do what you want Ranger! You're the one being generous and awesome!

I was wondering when somebody whose opinion carries a fair bit of weight would speak out against YCH - to my suprise you've done one better!

I love this idea because not only does it let some of us who don't want to bug ya all that much have a way to get involved in some of the great things you do, but with multiple pictures of this type you'll have a lot of different positions and those who really want to be in certain spots most will have a good shot at it. (If you have several ideas in mind and mention the basics of some of them before opening slots, it might give people some time to think about which position they'd like to have a chance at most.)

I doubt it'll be something I do often. I tend to hate leaving things unfinished, and doing these would force me to leave the sketch unfinished for quite a while

Definitely better than the auctions people are doing left and fucking right. There is a fine line between getting paid properly for artwork, and letting people grossly overpay you to an absurd degree.

And this is why I hate the majority of them

Sounds like a good idea to me, you get to enjoy the scenario you want to see, and others get to enjoy seeing their chats.
and yeah I think everyone has worked out that ych auctions is easy way to make a quick buck >.>

That and recolored adoptables

Would be a cool idea! Seems to hit all the homes that need to be hit. People get their free art, you get to draw new(ish) stuff... what could go wrong?

People getting pissed that they didn't get in it, I guess

True. First come first serve isn't exactly 'fair', but if you continue to do them over long periods of time people would probably be less inclined to ragequit.

I think the idea seems pretty good on paper, but yeah I'd do what Lynaeus suggests and pick your favorite.

And then people will complain that I'm picking everyone else, or picking my friends and the like.

It's kinda hard to do well.

I am aware of different time zones. I was planning to post in a couple different times of the day, which would mean a picture could pop up either early afternoon for the US, or earlier inthe morning. It's just luck,but I guess people are going to complain either way. :/

It's a nice idea draggy, but don't be discouraged if it leads to people spamming you in hopes of getting into your artwork :(

I'm more concerned with them spamming me with complaints

*Looks confused* pfft, as if ANYONE would have anything to complain about with a picture from Ranger. I've said it before and I'll say it again, your awesome ^_^ and don't you think otherwise :P silly awesome draggy!

I'm actually referring to the ones who end up missing out

Pfft, as someone that always misses out on free art, believe me when I say they'll deal with it. And if they don't, they weren't worth drawing in the first place :P

Thanks

Actually sounds like a pretty good idea to me, to be honest. Although, like many of the others, I think first-come first-serve isn't the greatest method towards deciding who's included.

One method, which has been stated already, would be to leave who's included up to you, the artist. This choice would merely be based on who you felt like drawing at the moment. Although, in my opinion, this seems like it could become a difficult task, depending on how many people apply for the YCH.

Another method method that I can think of, which is slightly similar and could be somewhat simpler to manage, would be to take the people who applied to the YCH freebie, and turn it into more of a raffle. Choose which of the people entered that you wouldn't be interested in drawing at that given time, and then do a drawing for the remaining individuals.

I do have to disagree with Lynaeus's statement on there being no good way to give out free art. Having joined as many raffles/attempted as many kiribans as I have, they really seem to be an efficient method towards giving out free art, since there's only a chance at winning. The lucky ones who win would be just that, and it really prevents any views towards "unfair decisions" since its all chance, unlike the fixed choice (which could be seen as personal favoritism) of first-come first-serve, and artist's choice (although, artist's choice makes the greatest deal of sense, given that he/she is the one drawing the image.)

Just my thoughts on the matter. >>; *runs off*

Exactly what I was getting at. No matter how a "winner" is decided, people are going to complain regardless.

I do like the raffle idea, though that would mean I'd need to leave the slots open for quite a while or else people will whine that they didn't get the chance to enter. :/

Unfortunately, I can't really think of anything else that could minimize the amount of complaints more than leaving the slots open for a bit. Regardless, though, you are right; Either way, you ARE going to get some amount of complaints, so its really a matter of limiting them, or just dealing with/ignoring them. There's realistically nothing that could be done, from what I know, to completely remove this aspect from the equation.

One possibility could be to hold multiple YCHs... Have each one lasting a different length of time, with the requirement that one person is only able to join one YCH at a time. Would allow for multiple people in differing time zones to take part in the YCH chances, while still providing equal opportunities to each participant.

The only real way I can think of minimizing complaints is to make the 'winner" entirely luck based. That's the direction I was going with this "first-come first-serve" basis, but it seems even then people are complaining that their chances will be lower and all that shit.

The raffle idea is sounding better, but I wouldn't wanna have to leave a sketch up for, like, a week just to allow everyone time to enter.

Makes quite a bit of sense, since, when you have a sketch idea in your head, you'd want to draw it as soon as possible. In the end, its really up to what you want out of the YCH art chance, since you are the artist. With first-come first-serve, I have seen another artist (BakedGewds) who provides this chance with the majority of journals she posts. She'll place a portion at the end of the journal, set a requirement to obtain the art, and everyone else who missed out was just unfortunately unlucky.

It does work effectively towards being entirely luck based (and I assume that it will be more like kiriban chancing than anything. First person to post the screenshot of the kiriban gets it, and everyone else is just shit out of luck. ;P) Also, I'm retracting my statement on first-come first-serve being possibly based on personal opinion; Apparently my brain wasn't fully registering what it actually was.

Honest opinion? Either use first-come first-serve and just deal with the influx of people complaining about their lack of luck, or leave it up for at least an hour or two, and make it a raffle. Whichever you use, you're going to get complaints, so its just a matter of which method works best for you.

One method I can suggest to have a selected theme. Granted, with you, it'd be vore. But having a set theme can make it easier on you, the artist.

For example... you open up a selection of YCH positions on a picture of a large table: Furs as food. Or a konga line, for example. These help give an idea to the people of what is expected, while at the same time, helps you pre-plan it with-out having to scramble around trying to draw a scene to accomedate a large number of furs.

Also, themes are fun, as it gives an appeal of a group activity. Like a party.


As for selections, an artist I know of uses a password or a passage for the commenter to add into their reply. She pops a word or something you need to do in the journal and if you don't say it, you don't get in the line.

That's kinda how YCH's work in general.

Unfortunately though I wouldn't want to just say what the idea is and then let people ask to be in it before I've even started. I come up with a lot of ideas that go nowhere because either too much time passes before I get the chance to draw it and I've lost interest in it, or I later realize the idea was silly or wouldn't work right.

Fair enough.

It closed? no free slot anymore?

...What?

nevermind. may i ask a drawning of my oc?

...This isn't a request journal :T

sorry. I just read that jornal and didn't understand the point of it

Sounds like a nice idea.

Still working on it

Well if I don't have to advertise and if "favorites" aren't constantly picked (that is if the first come first serve is not used) I'll give it a shot. Though I'll mostly not participate as I try not be an "art whore"... gah I don't know*shatters*

It's looking like I'll likely just choose a favourite after a couple hours or something. I'm not going to force people to advertise it though.

Pff, I know I'll never get in. I rarely get here in time to see your live streams, heh. XD

I like cows, you've got a good chance :>

If it's first come first serve, I doubt it. Because if I'm both lucky, and obsessively intent, I might be applicant number 150.

It's looking like it's going to be more of my own choice rather than first-come

Haha i feel so blonde, I honestly had no clue what YCH meant until just now reading this ranger, i thought it was a website or something.... i really need to keep up to date for things xD well thanks for the lesson there sweetie.

Your way of doing it sounds very generous and fair to me ranger, obviously as you are doing it out of your kindess and not for profit you have all the right to pick and choose who you include, from what tickles your fancy and what you are wanting to doodle (^. .^)

Its a nice way to consider things and could possbily bring more sonas to your attension that you might wanna draw and expand your skill sets by trying new things, il definetly have to keep an eye out incase you get a craving to draw something yellow and blue.

I'm still working it all out

keep us updated handsome (^. .^)

I like the free idea, but i think the requester should at least draw something in return

That would basically just be a trade, and require the other person to have decent drawing talent.

The whole point of this is to allow people, who aren't picky about the specifics of a picture, the chance to get in on one or more of my pictures instead of needing to ask for a request or pay for a commission.

I'm aware it's exploitable, but there will be rules in place to keep people from doing that.

Ok gotcha

And they already filled up. =( DARNIT.

Nothing's filled up yet, I'm still deciding how I'm gonna do these things :E

I've been debating doing some of these myself, for those ideas i have in my head but with no partner/meal/etc to include in them. I for one think the free slots are a good idea, cause you could have both free and paid slots in teh pic if you felt like it :3

I would prefer to not involve money at all

Same here, basically its practice and giving others chance to be part of it :3 the only issue im going to have myself is people wanting to be in them ^..^;

im still interested in a picture, im open to a trade if you are~ ;w;

A Trade would be awesome, actually :3

really? Awesome! Any idea of what youd like from me? <3

I usually draw most ideas I come up with, so just draw whatever you like X3