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12 years ago
This happened just now and this person keeps treating me like I'm some horrible kid... here it is with editing out names.
[3:32:20 PM] B: Crystal, what was that all about yesterday?
[3:32:30 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: what?
[3:33:38 PM] B: The entire time that I was there on the stream, all I heard for the first half of my being there was you e-molesting D and the other half was you guilting us about not tagging you
[3:34:04 PM] B: And believe it or not, both of those things are known to make people uncomfortable
[3:34:58 PM] B: I don't get how you expect to be loved by everyone if you refuse to change the things in what you're doing that make people uncomfortable
[3:35:02 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: Ok first off I didn't guilt you guys about that... sure I felt really really sad to find out that you guys really didn't include me but I figured that if you guys didn't want to include me then there was nothing I could really do
[3:35:07 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: as for the molesting.
[3:35:15 PM] B: Especially when I'm going out of my way to tell you these things
[3:35:16 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: Me and D are actually in a relationship.
[3:35:34 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: he actually likes it when I cuddle him.
[3:35:42 PM] B: Tagging isn't something most people like. It's a burden of friendship.
[3:36:14 PM] B: When people tag me, they're assuming I won't get annoyed because I like them enough, but they only tag me because they want to see funny things ill do
[3:36:32 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: If it really is then why do you guys giggle laugh and just joke around about it, I never saw tagging as something bad since so many find it funny to do some of the tags.
[3:36:48 PM] B: It's not a sign of friendship. No one gets sad over not being tagged. When people don't tag others, others are expected to be relieved. It's supposed to be a GOOD thing that you weren't tagged
[3:37:32 PM] B: And all you did was romance with D. That was it. If you we're doing other things and participating in any of the conversation, that might be different
[3:37:40 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B why are you telling me all this?
[3:38:08 PM] B: But you were on the mic making sexual giggly cute expressions of physical love and that was it, followed by many awkward pauses
[3:38:14 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: are you trying to make me feel like I'm some horrible person for bringing up that you guys didn't tag me and yet when you guys get tagged you tag everyone else.
[3:38:56 PM] B: I'm telling you this because you brought it up, continued to bring it up, talk about how you feel left out, then left immediately afterward
[3:39:13 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I didn't leave
[3:39:31 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: my computer crashed and I was going to come back on but my dad came into my room and told me to sleep
[3:40:16 PM] B: Whether or not that's true, this isn't the first time you've complained about feeling like an outsider, then leaving
[3:40:35 PM] B: In my experience, this is known to be an attempt at making us feel bad about you feeling like an outsider, and a hope that our guilt will change that
[3:41:02 PM] B: But I'm telling you that you have to actively think about how others feel about what you're saying
[3:41:56 PM] B: And if we're talking about something mundane and you answer back with a sexually lewd comment toward D, and every time you say anything, it's to make a sexually lewd comment toward D, it brands you as "that person who makes sexually lewd comments toward D".
[3:42:24 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: The reason I sometimes leave is because I feel like you guys don't want me around and right now you are making me feel that way. I don't do it to make you feel guilty, if I really wanted to make you feel guilty I would stay and continue naming off reasons why you should feel guilty. Instead I point out something and then I shut up about it because I know it won't change anything that happens.
[3:42:53 PM] B: I don't care what I'm making you feel like now
[3:42:57 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B... Leave me alone I don't want to talk to you if all you're going to do is attack me and make me feel like crap.
[3:43:02 PM] B: I'm trying to make you see why you feel this way
[3:43:20 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: No, you aren't.
[3:43:35 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: all you're doing is telling me all this stuff because I apparently pissed you off in some way.
[3:43:56 PM] B: No, don't try to read beneath my words. What I'm saying is what I'm feeling.
[3:44:06 PM] B: I am indeed annoyed
[3:44:07 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I guess I made another mistake thinking that you or the others wanted to be my friend.
[3:44:24 PM] B: And all I'm annoyed about is that you give us the blame for you feeling like you don't fit in
[3:44:43 PM] B: And I'm trying to tell you what YOU are doing to cause that, so if you want to fix it, you can.
[3:45:20 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I'll leave you guys alone B.
[3:45:22 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: bye.
[3:45:31 PM] B: There is more to you than sexually lewd comments and sadness about not fitting in. You are a very awesome person and I see that in our conversations, and that is what I think will help you fit right in anywhere you want
[3:46:09 PM] B: But you're doing things in public that you don't do in one on one conversations with me, and the only thing I'm annoyed with is the fact that you don't take responsibility for that.
[3:46:45 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B you and me talk differently because of how you are.
[3:47:11 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: P and D talk differently I've talked to both of them in different ways that I ever talked to you.
[3:47:46 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I find it a really slap in the face how they are allowed to speak in the lewd manner that you claim I speak and yet you don't jump down their throat
[3:47:58 PM] B: Because they do more than that
[3:48:19 PM] B: They have conversations, they joke non sexually, they do everything a conversation requires
[3:48:37 PM] B: And if they make a sex reference, it's funny because its not constant
[3:48:43 PM] B: You choose to do it all the time.
[3:48:48 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: So me talking with your guys asking things and then just getting ignored and I'm expected to just think it's ok?
[3:49:32 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: No, B you guys are actually treating me pretty bad and I'm letting it slide because I want to try and be friends with you guys but you guys just don't like me and there is nothing I can really do make you like me.
[3:50:34 PM] B: Look at the above
[3:50:49 PM] B: You keep saying how you'll leave us alone and leave promptly and blah blah blah
[3:50:54 PM] B: And you say things like you just said
[3:51:18 PM] B: And what I see is that you do something awkward that makes people uncomfortable and expect everyone to accept that as it is
[3:51:28 PM] B: And when they don't, you leave because "they don't accept me for who I am"
[3:51:40 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I don't think that I can keep playing pretend and letting you or the others make me feel like I'm some horrible person like I'm the one at fault. I'm sorry that we couldn't really be friends B.
[3:51:48 PM] B: And all I see is you not looking at yourself for a possible reason for why this is.
[3:52:15 PM] B: Your decisions on how to talk aren't set in stone. That's not "who you are". That's how you decide to act.
[3:52:44 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B I am looking at myself.
[3:52:46 PM] B: And when you aren't accepted someplace, it is sometimes because they don't accept you, and it's sometimes because of how you are acting
[3:53:02 PM] B: And I studied how things go with you and everyone else
[3:53:26 PM] B: And you are simply not accepting anything that even implies that you might have to change something in yourself.
[3:53:57 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: So you're saying unless I change to accommodate you then I'm not accepted.
[3:54:47 PM] B: I'm saying that if something you are choosing to do is inconveniencing everyone else, don't expect everyone else to change what inconveniences them, but rather look at what you are doing and change that.
[3:55:28 PM] B: Your entire personality isn't "sexually lewd girl." That's just what you choose to SHOW us. And that's a decision you're making.
[3:55:53 PM] B: If that's the reason why you're not fitting in, then yes, you should probably change that if you want better results.
[3:57:10 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: You know what B, I talk and act the way I am and people actually accept me. They don't tell me that I'm horrible they don't say that I'm lewd... you know what yesterday I was a furry convention and they made me feel more accepted than I have in years.
[3:57:19 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: they said I was funny and that I was perfect being me.
[3:57:35 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: they didn't suddenly take me off to side and said "dont' do that we dont' want to hear that."
[3:58:06 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: no one tried to change me to make me fit in B and if you are going to be doing that to me when ever you feel like it then I don't want to be your friend.
[3:58:06 PM] B: You are totally against any kind of critique :/
[3:58:23 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I don't a friend that tries to hurt me that doesn't think of how I feel when they say all of this to me.
[3:58:23 PM] B: Okay, I won't do that
[3:58:43 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: Did you even stop to think for a moment "Geeze how is she going to feel when I tell her this?'
[3:58:43 PM] B: You said you'd like me to help you fit in the way I did with most of these people, and I tried
[3:58:53 PM] B: Nope
[3:58:57 PM] B: You asked me for help
[3:59:06 PM] B: I gave you a disclaimer that ill tell you what I see
[3:59:07 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I asked for help not be put down like this.
[3:59:26 PM] B: If you aren't open to critique, and critique depresses you this much, you shouldn't have asked.
[3:59:27 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I don't want someone to talk to me like I should be ashmed of myself
[3:59:56 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: it took me years B to actually accept myself and love me for who I am and all you have been doing is pushing on me that I'm bad... that I'm horrible.
[4:00:08 PM] B: No, what you wanted was for me to get everyone to accept you for who you are AND for everything you do, without telling you that you have to change anything at all
[4:00:09 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B this isn't crituque
[4:00:13 PM] B: I like you for who you are
[4:00:22 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: this you actually purposefully hurting me.
[4:00:27 PM] B: But I'm telling you what you did yesterday that made others uncomfortable
[4:01:14 PM] B: Okay just forget it, I don't want to tell you my observations any more.
[4:01:21 PM] B: It hurts you too much and I get nowhere
[4:01:33 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: You aren't trying to help me B.
[4:01:41 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: You are only hurting me.
[4:01:42 PM] B: Yeah, I really am.
[4:01:51 PM] B: No, you're just feeling hurt.
[4:01:59 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B you haven't critiqued me.
[4:02:16 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: You only say "you're doing lewd horrible things."
[4:02:25 PM] B: I have, multiple times, about various things, in different ways.
[4:02:47 PM] B: And there is always a reason why you are doing it and why you shouldn't stop
[4:02:54 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B do you really think that it's ok to suddenly just act like that to someone?
[4:03:05 PM] B: And half the time you get upset when I don't accept that reason
[4:03:25 PM] B: I think it's okay to tell you what I see wrong when you've ASKED me to
[4:03:54 PM] B: I don't know what you expected when you asked for my help
[4:04:02 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: You told me if I wanted some help...
[4:04:26 PM] B: Did you think I would talk to everyone and suddenly everyone would accept and like everything you say, no matter how "out there" it is?
[4:04:30 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I thought you were going to talk to me and talk to them.
[4:04:44 PM] B: I did
[4:04:44 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I didn't think you were going to just come to me and tell me how I"m wrong all the time B.
[4:05:00 PM] B: And they don't know I'm talking to you and you weren't going to know I'd talk to them
[4:05:22 PM] B: I told them to be very tolerant of the things they don't like because you're new to the group and asked them to change how they act toward you and it worked
[4:05:35 PM] B: As evidenced by how they seem to be okay with the things that I tell you about
[4:05:58 PM] B: They changed how they act because I asked them to, because it would make everything better
[4:06:07 PM] B: I came and did the SAME thing to you that I did to them
[4:06:15 PM] B: And you're the only one acting this way about it
[4:06:32 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B you came to me acting aggressive.
[4:06:59 PM] Ben: I started acting aggressive because you're making this impossible for me
[4:07:23 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: How am I making this impossible
[4:07:27 PM] B: And it really makes me think that you just wanted me to make them accept you and everything you do without even coming to you once to tell you something is wrong
[4:07:42 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B I've changed.
[4:07:56 PM] B: No matter how nicely I tell you that something you're doing is the cause of the problem, you will always be hurt and you will always give me excuses not to change anything
[4:08:05 PM] B: And it's very frustrating because you asked me to do that.
[4:08:47 PM] B: So yes I came acting annoyed and I am sorry for not keeping better control of my emotions
[4:08:59 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I have changed and the only things that keeps happening is that you keep telling me I'm stil lhorriblely lewd.
[4:09:08 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: You keep saying that I'm still lewd.
[4:09:11 PM] B: But I am angry for a good reason. Either you can take what I have to say, or I can't help you.
[4:09:25 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: Tell me that I haven't changed B, honestly compared to how I was tell me I havent' changed.
[4:13:13 PM] B: I haven't been here for like a month
[4:13:25 PM] B: When I came back yesterday, lewd was ALL I saw
[4:15:21 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I can't take this anymore, B you are acting horrible and right now I was having a good day. I was drawing and just talking to friends and you came along and just brought me down to shit. So until you actually change and try to be a friend I don't want to talk to you.
[4:17:17 PM] B: I'll just retire from helping you. That is how I help people fit into groups and you're the only one who it isn't working for, so your success is up to you
[4:18:27 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B... You should treat me like a friend instead of like I'm a plauge to you and your friends.
[4:19:49 PM] B: I will
[4:19:59 PM] B: You won't hear any complaints from me anymore
[4:20:25 PM] B: If I am to have a conversation with you, it'll be pleasant and comfortable and supportive from my end
[4:22:15 PM] B: Sorry to have upset you :c
He only said sorry after I told him I didn't want to talk to him for treating me like this for making me think that I was the one to blame.
[3:32:20 PM] B: Crystal, what was that all about yesterday?
[3:32:30 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: what?
[3:33:38 PM] B: The entire time that I was there on the stream, all I heard for the first half of my being there was you e-molesting D and the other half was you guilting us about not tagging you
[3:34:04 PM] B: And believe it or not, both of those things are known to make people uncomfortable
[3:34:58 PM] B: I don't get how you expect to be loved by everyone if you refuse to change the things in what you're doing that make people uncomfortable
[3:35:02 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: Ok first off I didn't guilt you guys about that... sure I felt really really sad to find out that you guys really didn't include me but I figured that if you guys didn't want to include me then there was nothing I could really do
[3:35:07 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: as for the molesting.
[3:35:15 PM] B: Especially when I'm going out of my way to tell you these things
[3:35:16 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: Me and D are actually in a relationship.
[3:35:34 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: he actually likes it when I cuddle him.
[3:35:42 PM] B: Tagging isn't something most people like. It's a burden of friendship.
[3:36:14 PM] B: When people tag me, they're assuming I won't get annoyed because I like them enough, but they only tag me because they want to see funny things ill do
[3:36:32 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: If it really is then why do you guys giggle laugh and just joke around about it, I never saw tagging as something bad since so many find it funny to do some of the tags.
[3:36:48 PM] B: It's not a sign of friendship. No one gets sad over not being tagged. When people don't tag others, others are expected to be relieved. It's supposed to be a GOOD thing that you weren't tagged
[3:37:32 PM] B: And all you did was romance with D. That was it. If you we're doing other things and participating in any of the conversation, that might be different
[3:37:40 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B why are you telling me all this?
[3:38:08 PM] B: But you were on the mic making sexual giggly cute expressions of physical love and that was it, followed by many awkward pauses
[3:38:14 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: are you trying to make me feel like I'm some horrible person for bringing up that you guys didn't tag me and yet when you guys get tagged you tag everyone else.
[3:38:56 PM] B: I'm telling you this because you brought it up, continued to bring it up, talk about how you feel left out, then left immediately afterward
[3:39:13 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I didn't leave
[3:39:31 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: my computer crashed and I was going to come back on but my dad came into my room and told me to sleep
[3:40:16 PM] B: Whether or not that's true, this isn't the first time you've complained about feeling like an outsider, then leaving
[3:40:35 PM] B: In my experience, this is known to be an attempt at making us feel bad about you feeling like an outsider, and a hope that our guilt will change that
[3:41:02 PM] B: But I'm telling you that you have to actively think about how others feel about what you're saying
[3:41:56 PM] B: And if we're talking about something mundane and you answer back with a sexually lewd comment toward D, and every time you say anything, it's to make a sexually lewd comment toward D, it brands you as "that person who makes sexually lewd comments toward D".
[3:42:24 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: The reason I sometimes leave is because I feel like you guys don't want me around and right now you are making me feel that way. I don't do it to make you feel guilty, if I really wanted to make you feel guilty I would stay and continue naming off reasons why you should feel guilty. Instead I point out something and then I shut up about it because I know it won't change anything that happens.
[3:42:53 PM] B: I don't care what I'm making you feel like now
[3:42:57 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B... Leave me alone I don't want to talk to you if all you're going to do is attack me and make me feel like crap.
[3:43:02 PM] B: I'm trying to make you see why you feel this way
[3:43:20 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: No, you aren't.
[3:43:35 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: all you're doing is telling me all this stuff because I apparently pissed you off in some way.
[3:43:56 PM] B: No, don't try to read beneath my words. What I'm saying is what I'm feeling.
[3:44:06 PM] B: I am indeed annoyed
[3:44:07 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I guess I made another mistake thinking that you or the others wanted to be my friend.
[3:44:24 PM] B: And all I'm annoyed about is that you give us the blame for you feeling like you don't fit in
[3:44:43 PM] B: And I'm trying to tell you what YOU are doing to cause that, so if you want to fix it, you can.
[3:45:20 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I'll leave you guys alone B.
[3:45:22 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: bye.
[3:45:31 PM] B: There is more to you than sexually lewd comments and sadness about not fitting in. You are a very awesome person and I see that in our conversations, and that is what I think will help you fit right in anywhere you want
[3:46:09 PM] B: But you're doing things in public that you don't do in one on one conversations with me, and the only thing I'm annoyed with is the fact that you don't take responsibility for that.
[3:46:45 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B you and me talk differently because of how you are.
[3:47:11 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: P and D talk differently I've talked to both of them in different ways that I ever talked to you.
[3:47:46 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I find it a really slap in the face how they are allowed to speak in the lewd manner that you claim I speak and yet you don't jump down their throat
[3:47:58 PM] B: Because they do more than that
[3:48:19 PM] B: They have conversations, they joke non sexually, they do everything a conversation requires
[3:48:37 PM] B: And if they make a sex reference, it's funny because its not constant
[3:48:43 PM] B: You choose to do it all the time.
[3:48:48 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: So me talking with your guys asking things and then just getting ignored and I'm expected to just think it's ok?
[3:49:32 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: No, B you guys are actually treating me pretty bad and I'm letting it slide because I want to try and be friends with you guys but you guys just don't like me and there is nothing I can really do make you like me.
[3:50:34 PM] B: Look at the above
[3:50:49 PM] B: You keep saying how you'll leave us alone and leave promptly and blah blah blah
[3:50:54 PM] B: And you say things like you just said
[3:51:18 PM] B: And what I see is that you do something awkward that makes people uncomfortable and expect everyone to accept that as it is
[3:51:28 PM] B: And when they don't, you leave because "they don't accept me for who I am"
[3:51:40 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I don't think that I can keep playing pretend and letting you or the others make me feel like I'm some horrible person like I'm the one at fault. I'm sorry that we couldn't really be friends B.
[3:51:48 PM] B: And all I see is you not looking at yourself for a possible reason for why this is.
[3:52:15 PM] B: Your decisions on how to talk aren't set in stone. That's not "who you are". That's how you decide to act.
[3:52:44 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B I am looking at myself.
[3:52:46 PM] B: And when you aren't accepted someplace, it is sometimes because they don't accept you, and it's sometimes because of how you are acting
[3:53:02 PM] B: And I studied how things go with you and everyone else
[3:53:26 PM] B: And you are simply not accepting anything that even implies that you might have to change something in yourself.
[3:53:57 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: So you're saying unless I change to accommodate you then I'm not accepted.
[3:54:47 PM] B: I'm saying that if something you are choosing to do is inconveniencing everyone else, don't expect everyone else to change what inconveniences them, but rather look at what you are doing and change that.
[3:55:28 PM] B: Your entire personality isn't "sexually lewd girl." That's just what you choose to SHOW us. And that's a decision you're making.
[3:55:53 PM] B: If that's the reason why you're not fitting in, then yes, you should probably change that if you want better results.
[3:57:10 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: You know what B, I talk and act the way I am and people actually accept me. They don't tell me that I'm horrible they don't say that I'm lewd... you know what yesterday I was a furry convention and they made me feel more accepted than I have in years.
[3:57:19 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: they said I was funny and that I was perfect being me.
[3:57:35 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: they didn't suddenly take me off to side and said "dont' do that we dont' want to hear that."
[3:58:06 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: no one tried to change me to make me fit in B and if you are going to be doing that to me when ever you feel like it then I don't want to be your friend.
[3:58:06 PM] B: You are totally against any kind of critique :/
[3:58:23 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I don't a friend that tries to hurt me that doesn't think of how I feel when they say all of this to me.
[3:58:23 PM] B: Okay, I won't do that
[3:58:43 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: Did you even stop to think for a moment "Geeze how is she going to feel when I tell her this?'
[3:58:43 PM] B: You said you'd like me to help you fit in the way I did with most of these people, and I tried
[3:58:53 PM] B: Nope
[3:58:57 PM] B: You asked me for help
[3:59:06 PM] B: I gave you a disclaimer that ill tell you what I see
[3:59:07 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I asked for help not be put down like this.
[3:59:26 PM] B: If you aren't open to critique, and critique depresses you this much, you shouldn't have asked.
[3:59:27 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I don't want someone to talk to me like I should be ashmed of myself
[3:59:56 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: it took me years B to actually accept myself and love me for who I am and all you have been doing is pushing on me that I'm bad... that I'm horrible.
[4:00:08 PM] B: No, what you wanted was for me to get everyone to accept you for who you are AND for everything you do, without telling you that you have to change anything at all
[4:00:09 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B this isn't crituque
[4:00:13 PM] B: I like you for who you are
[4:00:22 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: this you actually purposefully hurting me.
[4:00:27 PM] B: But I'm telling you what you did yesterday that made others uncomfortable
[4:01:14 PM] B: Okay just forget it, I don't want to tell you my observations any more.
[4:01:21 PM] B: It hurts you too much and I get nowhere
[4:01:33 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: You aren't trying to help me B.
[4:01:41 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: You are only hurting me.
[4:01:42 PM] B: Yeah, I really am.
[4:01:51 PM] B: No, you're just feeling hurt.
[4:01:59 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B you haven't critiqued me.
[4:02:16 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: You only say "you're doing lewd horrible things."
[4:02:25 PM] B: I have, multiple times, about various things, in different ways.
[4:02:47 PM] B: And there is always a reason why you are doing it and why you shouldn't stop
[4:02:54 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B do you really think that it's ok to suddenly just act like that to someone?
[4:03:05 PM] B: And half the time you get upset when I don't accept that reason
[4:03:25 PM] B: I think it's okay to tell you what I see wrong when you've ASKED me to
[4:03:54 PM] B: I don't know what you expected when you asked for my help
[4:04:02 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: You told me if I wanted some help...
[4:04:26 PM] B: Did you think I would talk to everyone and suddenly everyone would accept and like everything you say, no matter how "out there" it is?
[4:04:30 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I thought you were going to talk to me and talk to them.
[4:04:44 PM] B: I did
[4:04:44 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I didn't think you were going to just come to me and tell me how I"m wrong all the time B.
[4:05:00 PM] B: And they don't know I'm talking to you and you weren't going to know I'd talk to them
[4:05:22 PM] B: I told them to be very tolerant of the things they don't like because you're new to the group and asked them to change how they act toward you and it worked
[4:05:35 PM] B: As evidenced by how they seem to be okay with the things that I tell you about
[4:05:58 PM] B: They changed how they act because I asked them to, because it would make everything better
[4:06:07 PM] B: I came and did the SAME thing to you that I did to them
[4:06:15 PM] B: And you're the only one acting this way about it
[4:06:32 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B you came to me acting aggressive.
[4:06:59 PM] Ben: I started acting aggressive because you're making this impossible for me
[4:07:23 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: How am I making this impossible
[4:07:27 PM] B: And it really makes me think that you just wanted me to make them accept you and everything you do without even coming to you once to tell you something is wrong
[4:07:42 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B I've changed.
[4:07:56 PM] B: No matter how nicely I tell you that something you're doing is the cause of the problem, you will always be hurt and you will always give me excuses not to change anything
[4:08:05 PM] B: And it's very frustrating because you asked me to do that.
[4:08:47 PM] B: So yes I came acting annoyed and I am sorry for not keeping better control of my emotions
[4:08:59 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I have changed and the only things that keeps happening is that you keep telling me I'm stil lhorriblely lewd.
[4:09:08 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: You keep saying that I'm still lewd.
[4:09:11 PM] B: But I am angry for a good reason. Either you can take what I have to say, or I can't help you.
[4:09:25 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: Tell me that I haven't changed B, honestly compared to how I was tell me I havent' changed.
[4:13:13 PM] B: I haven't been here for like a month
[4:13:25 PM] B: When I came back yesterday, lewd was ALL I saw
[4:15:21 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: I can't take this anymore, B you are acting horrible and right now I was having a good day. I was drawing and just talking to friends and you came along and just brought me down to shit. So until you actually change and try to be a friend I don't want to talk to you.
[4:17:17 PM] B: I'll just retire from helping you. That is how I help people fit into groups and you're the only one who it isn't working for, so your success is up to you
[4:18:27 PM] Crystal BlackHeart: B... You should treat me like a friend instead of like I'm a plauge to you and your friends.
[4:19:49 PM] B: I will
[4:19:59 PM] B: You won't hear any complaints from me anymore
[4:20:25 PM] B: If I am to have a conversation with you, it'll be pleasant and comfortable and supportive from my end
[4:22:15 PM] B: Sorry to have upset you :c
He only said sorry after I told him I didn't want to talk to him for treating me like this for making me think that I was the one to blame.
Idiots these days. They have a quarter of a heart or no heart at all.