Right?? x.x

I've only played one /good/ EA game.. NHL 98. <3

What about Sim City 3000 Unlimited & Sim City 4 Deluxe?

They don't make games, EA is just a producer. Maxis made all those.

Ive always loved sim city, thats why I bought this one, the older versions actually had a lot more stuff and better deeper features in them this one just looks prettier

some bits of the engine for the new SimCity seem pretty good, but ...

SimCity 4 Unlimited. :) or Deluxe, whatever it was called.

They did a few nice things, but on balance the older versions had a lot more going on

copied and pasted from a different reply :)

This one has

* Teeny tiny little plots to build your city,
*limited number of terraisn to choose from
*No highways no elevated rail no subways
*no military bases
*no terrain editing,
*Budgeting is limited to raising and lowering taxes
* No ordinances, to cut costs you literally have to disable buildings and remember to re enable them later,
*AI is utterly broken, sims just run around aimlessly like idiots,
* you can not deploy police or firetrucks or military to disasters
*you have to trust the aforementioned broken ai to know to do it for you and it usually doesnt,
* The disasterous decision to cripple this with always on cloud based DRM means you can not save your cities locally and you routinely lose progress with the "Your city is not processing properly, rollback?" errors

Soviet Strike was good.

And Nuclear Strike! Both were awesome games.

Me and my dad bonded when I was growing up, thanks to those games. Desert Strike too. We had such fun playing all those. :3

Need For Speed 4

they buy from ea because of big titles. Honestly. i want EA dead or at least chopped into smaller companies.
They are the worst of the worst.

At first, I read that as "big titties"

lol. naw that WAS laura croft XD

We buy their products because they are slowly expanding and making themselves a monopoly. Plus they tend to have their slaves make good titles and games before they utterly ruin them.

Just like Mass Effect.

Mass Effect wasn't made by EA... it was made by Bioware.

EA had NOTHING to do with Mass Effect aside from helping to fund the project.

But if you hold the paycheck you have the power. They made Bioware rush the game at certain times to get it out quickly.

Yes.. I know...

And Bioware backed out and is no longer seeking EA for funding ...

You should see how PISSED EA was when BioWare decided to release the 'ACTUAL' ending of Mass Effect 3 as free DLC...

EA was trying to force BioWare to charge people for the proper ending... Fucking CUNTS.

I was always under the impression that EA held every dev under them by the balls. So it was BioWare's decision to do that and not EA saving face?

Correct...

BioWare realized how many gamers they would lose.. so because of this.. they went under EA's 'orders' and released the PROPER ending as free DLC rather than the 'paid' DLC ending that EA wanted them to make.

Wait. Bioware is under EA's paycheck - it's nothing you can just "opt out" of. Do you have any sort of supporting evidence of your claims Bioware is calling any shots?

EA owns Bioware.

I don't have any supporting claims other than a friend who works for BioWare, sorry.

But how could you possibly claim this:
"And Bioware backed out and is no longer seeking EA for funding ..."

If you evidently do not have any grounds for this claim, along with the claim of Bioware calling the shots on the re-visioned DLC deals?

I just know what my friend told me...

You HONESTLY believe that EA would give away 100% free DLC?

You're dreaming.

All I'm doing is for you to fulfill your burden of proof. If anything it might cause you to think one step ahead next time and look up what you claim before you do so - it's a good practice.

I think EA are a bunch of disgusting corporate monsters. But it's evident they know the crowd is easy to please. So to me it's quite clear EA was playing their support cards for the Mass Effect 3 ending DLC(s) to peace the crowd. I can't see Bioware being the slightest involved in this as they aren't really involved nor have a say in this - their task is to program content for EA to sell, while the marketing and pitching is up to EA in order to bring their invested development money back.

Sounds to me more like you're one of those EA fanboys if you ask me.

If that's the case then you're pretty much illiterate or have a problem understanding the written word in its context.

You accuse me of being a EA fanboy for not thinking the corporation is filled with stupid people? The consumers are stupid and easy to please, and EA knows this. This is why they can keep wrapping up dog turds in plastic and have the consumers throw their wallets EA's way every single time. If you think that to be a pro-EA statement then surely you need to consider to stop sniffing glue.

Whatever... I'm done chatting with you.. I tried telling you earlier that my friend who works for BioWare in Montreal (AKA: Where they are located! I love how 99.9% of Americans are like! 'Nu-uh! They're American because Canadians can't make anything good!!")

-- My friend who works at BioWare was the one who told me about EA trying to force the DLC as a 'paid DLC' ...

....whether or not this is a lie I have no fucking idea.. I would assume that a friend wouldn't lie as they know the ramifications I will take if they are caught in a lie with me.. But yes, there is the possibility that the friend who works for BioWare is lying.. I have no idea at the present whether its fact or fiction... I am just repeating what he told me.

Two words: source criticism

Your friend doesn't need to lie. He could just be ill-informed. Before you bring yourself to spread the claim you should analyse the claim - which I find it hard to believe you have looking at how you merely point at your friends' say-so.

To me I can't possibly see that happening. A studio owned by a big publisher asking not to get money from said publisher? What for? The publisher is under contract either way so their freedoms doesn't increase should their budget from said publisher decrease. I think your friend is either mistaken or should snap out of his day-dream.

Fair enough.. I was wrong. Are we done here now?

I just managed to glance at all your other posts in this journal and you come off as VERY hostile and belligerent..

Yes - you may be right about everything but that doesn't give you the right to treat other people like moronic fucking puppets. Just sayin.

Now the next comment from you will probably be: Where did I treat people hostile in this journal, correct? Most of your comments come off as hostile..

Just because you don't like something.. and other people do - doesn't make them an idiot. We are all entitled to our opinion.. I will not treat you like dirt - hence why I chose to agree with you - you're right I should have viewed my sources more clearly - so I apologize for that .. but what is your excuse for coming off as being completely 100% negative..?? (Again: I could be wrong.. I could just be misreading your text - but it honestly feels like your comments are filled with negativity from what I have read thus far.)

That is merely your interpretation.

Actually... not really...

I visited your profile and you are fairly negative on there as well..

Your personality definitely reflects someone who always thinks they are right and that everyone else are morons.

That is still merely your interpretation.

Anyway - I believe I am done chatting with you, as it is clear by your current dialogue that you just wish to start a silly little drama fight with me - and I have zero tolerance for this, thanks.

EA rushed Mass Effect which is why ME3 had to redo their entire ending in the (fortunately free) DLC later. EA dips their hands into every game they produce,

They do... which was why they almost ruined the franchise for BioWare.

What happened is:

1) EA made stupid decisions to piss people off

2) Pissed of people are trying to hack EA to death

3) You and other non EA people get hurt


It sucks for everyone:(

Well I wast really hurt, all i have in Origin is Sim City and frankly its an unplayable mess of a crippled game anyway so I dont really care if I ever get access to it again, just a shame I wasted $60

If people simply would try to hold on to their wallets and in large make more educated purchasing decisions that would be beneficial for everyone. I'm not trying to tease Hammy - even the in-depth on-read game consumer will cave in first best chance a terrible publishers has a big, shiny turd to sell. The fact that this happens essentially every single release and everyone knows it yet nobody is taking heart is to me utterly depressing and frustrating.

Yeah, EA's services are awful... thats why I use steam now ^.^ If i have a problem with a game i contact valve. it all works out :3

Which reminds me, i recently bought spore on steam and it works just fine. :3

EA has ALWAYS sucked.. the only true supporters of that failing game company are the sports nuts who eat up their shitty sports games on a shit stained spoon..

The ONLY time I've ever seen EA at the top of their game was waaaaaaaaay back in the day... 1989 to around 1995 to be exact.. when they made decent games... nowadays 99.9% of the products they shove out of their various orifices are about the equivalent of a lobotomy...

...by that I mean.. not fun... and don't get me started on their working conditions... lets just say Adolf Hitler had better working conditions for Nazis than EA does for their staff.

Ive known more than a few people who worked for EA, more often than not it causes them to leave the industry altogether.

Yep.. it is one of the worst companies to work for in the video gaming industry...

My sincerest regards for your friends who worked for EA... I'm sure it was like hell on earth...

Exactly. Once upon a time, EA made so many amazing games that they had earned their right to become a top producer.

In fact, I had once bought a used game at the swap meet that was in poor condition and years past the shelf life. EA's support was friendly and able to replace the game for an ultra low shipping price.

Alas, the (I think it was) Square/Circle/Triangle company called EA changed. And, it morphed into the thing that all these complaints are talking about. It's not the company that I grew up with. Now, it's just the Mickey-itler of the gaming industry. Breaks my heart, too.

Hit reddit with this story and see if that'll speed things up :)

This isn't news. Everyone with any eyes on the gaming press and/or any game communities knows this since release day. It's a gigantic spectacle.

yeah, it's stuff like this that make me check a games developers before buying it.

They went from "EA sports, it's in the game" to "EA support, it's f**king lame"

Why? Because their games are still good, mass effect, dead space, Defiance, Crysis..
I don't like EA company policy either but you can't deny they are not publishing good games.

They treat their customers like shit, They sell broken products, they lie and people keep coming back for more, that's what I'm confused about, I spent $60 on this sim city game only to find its heavily crippled with this server dependant always on poorly conceived DRM scheme, coupled with the fact that you cant save locally the DRM causes routine corruption of your cities plus it has far fewer features and depth than Sim City 2000 a 15 year old game, Plus the highly vaunted AI wich they claimed was the reason they needed the cloud is entirely broken, So Despite the fact that this game is an absolute disaster in every sense of the word they refuse to give refunds, this is a bad way to treat customers.

I heard some modders found a really easy way past the always-online. I don't know if they've found a way to save locally.

Even then, the game isnt as good as old versions of sim city :) Doesnt even have highways subways elevated rail, terrain editing or any of those other thigns all the others had! :D

I caught a YT video so many weeks back that claimed someone hacked the 'always on-line' feature, out of the game. Let me see if I can find it.

Here it is...

http://youtu.be/PpFlf5OhRNI

If it then lets me save locally it might be worth playing again!

Believe they said in the video that THAT'S half the point. Seems that it was to be a feature. But, somebody yanked it at the last second in support of 'on-line' only.

...parts of the game are written in JavaScript...Seriously???

Defiance is actually published by Trion Worlds, not EA.

I can deny that. As they simply do not represent any sort of quality. Last decent title released under the infectious umbrella of EA was in my view Mass Effect 2, and that was a few years ago. Since then they just wreck everything. Mass Effect 3 was lazy and so poorly executed it's nothing short of a disgrace, Dead Space 3 I will not touch for the life of me as Dead Space 2 was a completely unplayable and insulting mess, Crysis I cannot fathom why anybody cares about expect for the benchmark qualities.

If you want what's good for the industry; don't ever buy anything from EA. Don't even install Origin for a free game or a sale. We need consumers with a little bit of wit and backbone.

Mass effect 3 poor and lazy? Guess we were not playing the same game, ending sucked bad i give you that but there were moments during the game play that were awesome, you are not judging the whole game just cause of the bad ending here are you? And yes i did have origing, not because i wanted to i was annoyed during installing it but since you have to have it on your computer to play dead space 3 that i had bought there was very little i could do about that. The game was still good, better than 2 was with the weapon building and co-op, though still lacked the horror element cause enemy was already something familiar oh and end boss was lame.

I have already done that decided after i had finished dead space 3 would not buy anything EA marking on it.

No, I'm not one of those sheep that cling to the meme of bashing ME3 solely for its ridiculous and non-sense conclusion. But the entire game was just insulting and stupid. It lacked pacing and the character development took great step backwards in favor of establishing Hollywood cliches.

Just take the introduction to the game for example.
It essentially goes like this:
"Hey, Shepard - you might have been right on the whole Reaper thing all along, sorry for imprisoning you"
"Oh shit, the Reapers are blasting this building right now - guess they were actually real!"

And the ultimate enemy to all organic life still takes weeks and week to blast London to the point the Nazis could have done in just a few big raids in World War 2. Talk about demystifying the great intimidating evil from the two previous games into just a bunch of angry laser-shooting bugs.

The game itself has no redeeming qualities. It feels like an ambitious mod for Mass Effect 2. It adds nothing new and tries to be whatever is cool at the time; Metal Gear and Gears of War. They re-introduce some characters from ME1 yet they don't look the same nor have the same personality - so the reintroduction is completely unwelcome. The relationship with Cerberus has gotten from curious to completely ape-shit retarded. They made the Illusive Man into Adolf Hitler and Stalin and his organization becomes Al Qaida á Flamboyant - just going places shooting people up on random for no plan nor purpose.

And don't get me started on the Ninjagaiden-Metal-Gear-Solid hack-slash Japanese ninja-guy they introduced. It's just so dumb I cannot find words to describe it.

Overall - Mass Effect 3 left me sad and disheartened. It was a terrible game that needed more writers, less writers or a proper producer. Not to mention another year of development in order to not suck from a technical and gameplay standpoint - but that goes without saying.


Dead Space 2 was terrible, so that Dead Space 3 might have been an improvement I will not say anything about. As a dog turd wrapped in clear plastic would be a lot less offensive than Dead Space 2 and also play better as a game. That unless there's people who thinks a constant cocky and dismissive narration from the douchebag protagonist in a horror game adds to the atmosphere...

EA was good at one point back in the 80s and 90s. But 2000 and beyond they keep doing shit to piss gamers off.
The one I hate the most is taking down a game server after just 1 year of it being up.

I am not a fan of any product that depends on remote servers to function, if I like a game I play it for years i dont want to pay for something that is goign to fail in a couple years.

Yep same here.
I try to stay away from EA games any more.
Only one's I like are the Family Game Night one's they put out but again they take the servers down on all of those games so no playing on live or getting the online achievements for that game and I hate that as I am one away from getting 100% on the original Family Game Night.

It's something that I don't like the sound of, concerning future gaming. All this talk about 'no more physical media' and 'Cloud gaming' and 'Download only' and 'Console lockdown' stuff. It sounds like the return of a failed video format, tried a few years ago and nobody wanted it. (So failed, I can't even remember what they called it.) One where you get to play what 'they' say you can. Oh, you get to pay for the rights. But, when 'they' say no more, you are ____ out of luck. And, I don't even see how 'they' can honestly do such stuff. After all, the whole world doesn't have top-of-the-line internet access. I mean, if they lose physical discs and make it all digital access, only...what are you doing to the less-then-high-speed crowd of gamers? I mean that I'm nowhere certain about having future PC's go HDD-less and having it all store to a remote server.

DIVX not to be confused with Divx is what you are thinking of, it almost destroyed circuit city. Frankly with all this stuff they are tryign to take control of media away from the consumers so they can limit your ability to use it, and they are selling this bullshit by pretending it will somehow be more convenient, this is why I still use laserdisc :D

That's the devil, all right. I bet nobody whom bought into it can still play their 'purchased' movies, anymore. Probably because those servers the machines needed to phone into on a weekly basis are long gone.

Now, Blu-Ray is a very nice format to ride out into the sunset with, if physical formats must vanish from the face of the Earth. All the comforts of DVD with so much storage space, it's almost impossible to imagine where it all hides at. I'd certainly back up my HDD stuff to one...if I ever obtain a Blu-Ray recorder.

with hard drive space being so cheap, I jsut rip all my DVDs to a network connected raid box thing, it works great :D

Oh, I know. Upgraded my PS3 to a Terrabyte drive for a bargain of a price.

"WHY DO PEOPLE BUY PRODUCTS FROM THIS SHITTY COMPANY????!!!!! "

Ask yourself.. you bought Sim City :)

You've given them no reason to not be shitty.

That was more towards the people that buy products from them get pissed off scream for a while and then buy more products later on, Sim city and Spore are the only EA products I have ever purchased and I've learned my lesson Ill never give them my money again :)

obligatory

classic

Phew! I guess I dodged a bullet in 2008, EA didn't hire me.

I didnt know you did game design stuff! neat

I would not have been doing game design. It was to maintain one of their production pipelines at EA Black Box.
But I was working nights at the time, so... I worked a night shift, spent all the next day trying to prepare for the interview, worked another night shift, then had the phone interview the next morning. It went poorly, as I was struggling to stay awake.

Sounds like you dodged a bullet!

I have a friend who works for them, and they can't rant enough about how bad it was. They were hired and told they had 9 months to work on it. After the first week, hours were bumped from 40 to 60 a week. After the first month, the deadline was shortened from 9 months to 5. By the final month, they were working 70 hour weeks.

Keep in mind this is salary, and they were making less than the industry norm. So they were effectively getting less than half their fair pay, for doing a project in nearly half the time originally planned and agreed on.

Sim City was when I threw in the towel. I can forgive some things EA does, but that DRM was the most poorly planned and handled shit I've ever seen. Their refusal to acknowledge the glaring flaw in that system, their inability to provide the most basic customer support, and the complete BS reasoning behind DRM (global market = requirement, easier distribution of content, blah) was just completely awful.

Btw, they're also selling ad space in the game. Lawl. Go figure.

I wouldnt even mind ads in the game if the fucking thing worked :D

Right? Lawl because after the terribad publicity and the massive outcry from gamers, who would buy ad space? That is at all if we could see it :D

the way I see it, ad space would at least add some content, I mean... compared to earlier versions of sim city you have a tiny little space for a city, very few placeable buildings no highways subways elevated rail or any of that fun stuff at least billboards would be SOMETHING

Yeah, I didn't mind it so much in the Need for Speed games :p But those I had some fun in!

Yup!

You should come destroy things to let off some steam *nod nods*

you want me to help destroy things? OH the house? :D

Indeed, hehe =)

hehe sorry was animating all day,

Same problem with Mass Effect 2 and 3. I can't get any of my old downloads to work on trilogy sets since I had separate game disks before

I bought SimCity, I've always been a fan of the franchise and I was so looking forward to a nice game, but I ended up getting a refund on the game less than a week after. It's so desperately broken, it's pathetic. Almost two months later, and the game isn't even close to being fixed, so looks like I made the right choice.

They wouldnt give me a refund, instead I got a free game, Since Im not a gamer it wasnt really that great a deal :)

If there's anything I learned from this experience, it's not to buy from Origin. Just get the game on Amazon (who has amazing customer service, I spent less than 5 minutes on the phone and it was taken care of), or any other retailer that actually cares about you as a customer.

I bought mine from EB, I didnt even really know what origin was

Ah, I just assumed. I haven't dealt with EB before.

I dont like digital distribution still prefer to buy physical copies in physical stores :)

Yep I am same way although on my 360 I have about 120 Full Arcade games but most of them are games that are not availible in retail stores they are the ones that cost 400, 800 or 1200 MS points.
I have like 50 or 60 retail 360 games though.
And serveral other old games as well.

only two things im proud to own from EA, are Black, and Timesplitters: Future Perfect :/

I remember Mule was a good game

You will surely get the Karkland

Dont know what that means :D

http://i.imgur.com/ZDr2PYT.png

Wow so even if I ever manage to find a person to talk to, that's the calibre of service I can expect? Ok honestly if people deal with this kind of shit and yet still remain customers of this awful company, they kind of deserve to get screwed, The proper reaction to bad service is to go with a different company.

>Wow so even if I ever manage to find a person to talk to, that's the calibre of service I can expect?

Oh man, you don't even know:
http://i.imgur.com/Dg9d7QP.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/RyBvJj9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qlysTGR.png
http://i.imgur.com/IscHEC3.png

Wow I think monkeys could run that help chat better then these dumb asses.
I bet it is some douche in India or some other country who doe's not give two shits about customers.

And what the hell is with all of those names?
Those all look like the spam shit names I get when I check my email.

The second one was actually helpful so don't know why you included that, but lol at the last one, telling him to delete his Program Files.

So customer support is basically Cleverbot... but a horrible EA version of it.

"WHY DO PEOPLE BUY PRODUCTS FROM THIS SHITTY COMPANY????!!!!! "
Well I for one try to avoid doing that.
I only buy games on Steam.

I direct you to this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-LE0ycgkBQ

It explains everything. Enjoy.

good stuff :D

Oh, you missed my massive rage when I got Sim City. I waited a few days while my partner played, and decided to join in. After having to do the tutorial FOUR TIMES because the servers would crash and not save progress, I finally got to make a city... only for the game to break and prevent us from actually accessing said cities. That was when I was actually able to play, not just wait because the servers were down.

Dont care that it got hacked its the fact that its not easy to find help and the password reset page is broken just says "Sorry the service is experiencing difficulties" for the past couple weeks

It bummed me out when you had to keep the floppy in the disk drive to play Hard Hat Mac, and M.U.L.E.

I want Electronic Arts (c.1999) back. EA can lick an elephants filthy asshole.

Yep EA is bad now it is nothing like the 80s and 90s era of games those were awesome.
Now they are just in it for the money.

*goes back to playing NFS2 while listening to Reba McEntire and watching Rocko's Modern Life* Things were so much better in the '90s. Damn kids today with their Call of Doody and their Bowelshock... GET OFF MY LAWN, DAMMIT!

Lolz I liked Bioshock and the first few COD's were alright but kinda COD out now.
I did get COD Black ops but don't have the 2nd one.

Agreed 100% ...

I used to love the classic games EA pooped out for PC in the early 90s..

SSX Tricky and SSX 3 were amazing ^^ only memorable experience I have had with the company. I heard the ones after that sucked though, so oh well xD

Worst of all, Origin was made to outclass Steam. Do you think, by any chance, Steam would have been hacked ?

I dont know enough to have an opinion :)

Well, I allso think that if some one was to hack Steam, the rest of the hacking world be on there ass, after all, everyone likes Steam, few care about Origin.

Mja, I don't agree. Though Steam represents the much lesser evils in the industry. If people defend Steam it's more for the history and accomplishments of Valve - not for the Steam service itself. I dare say everyone likes Gaben, Gabe Newell, though!

I've not yet bought this game and do not believe I will.

Sharing development of a metro area seemed like a good idea when I first heard of it. And then this launch...

I'm planning to ditch all my EA software asap, but I don't want even my enemies to endure this crap...

Just get sim city 4, its better anyway

Oh, and just did some re-research on GlassBox.

I sit corrected. The engine sucks.

I sit because of arthritis in my back making it not possible for me to stand at this time.

Sorry to hear :/

People bitch but they don't vote where it counts. With their wallet.

I refuse to buy another EA game EVER until they totally overhaul their business model. If they don't? They never get my money. Ever. Fuck them and their overly profit driven bullshit.

Exactly, if people actually want things to improve all the angry posts and yelling in the world wont fix anything EA only cares about sales and until sales suffer they'll keep doing things the same way.

Bingo. I hear their CEO was it? The profit crazy guy who did help EA become so huge has actually left... Issue is they did a great job from a business POV but neglected core customer base in favor of kids with too much of their parents fucking money and people that seem to have no idea of what milking the cow means XD

For a few years in a row EA has been elected to the glorious title "worst company of the year" [in US] and seemingly everyone knows they're shit. Yet people are sheep enough to throw all their money EA's way over a shiny poster, a neat hyped trailer, etc. In order for EA to make a reform the consumers need to get a lot smarter overall about their consuming habits.

Even people who hate EA cave in with every new IP revival. This is what I hear all the time:
"Oh, I hate to give EA money but I feel like I must buy this game for reason X or support of developer Y".

It's essentially like first claiming North Korea is a terrible place then going on a holiday there to grease their gears with your money to support the slave people - a token of support for the dictatorship.

Sorry you're having a shitty time with EA.

Always be sure to stay away from EA and CapCom. Capcom is getting to the point of being EA now....or they're already there :P

yeah hey lost me forever :)

Good! Remember always vote with your wallet!

SSX was the only series they did well. >:I

Never forget Marauder Shields

A sad day indeed that there was no boss to fight in ME3....

Grats, dude. Normally I'd sympathize with you, but come on, we're in 2013 and the internet is EVERYWHERE! You can actually do your research and check out user reviews (note, USER reviews, not paid 'Official' reviews), check out videos, blogs, etc. People have been experiencing widespread issues with the DRM since launch, and Origin is loathed by many.

Needless to say, EA is the cancer of gaming...and you just gave them $60. I hope you learned your lesson, because - to an extent - you deserve the loss for not doing your research. :P

Big companies are trying to maximize their profits with minimal effort. We customers have to be more cautious now...

Well I bought it at launch, soooo the full rage hadnt happened yet, I was just thrilled a new sim city finally came out.

Dead space 1
Dead space 2
Battlefield 3
battlefield bc2
mirror's edge
dante's inferno

Personally i've been loving EA this gen. They really fucked up sim city (not that i play it) and i've heard about origin issues but not wide spread. Personally if somebody makes a great game, i buy it.

Dante's Inferno 2 AKA Purgatory. Except without all the bullshit from EA ruining Mass effect.

As one of the few that loved DI, i have unfortunately stopped holding my breath for the sequel that the director of the first one basically said was already greenlit and in production 2 years ago :\

That "your mother will hate it" ad campaign was a little desperate.

Yeah, it was a fantastic game though. EA seems to have fucked up the 3rd by trying to turn it into call of duty with necromorphs.

I can honestly say i've played, and hate, all of these.

Last EA game I enjoyed and worked right was Mechwarrior 2.

That's nice.

Isn't Dante's Inferno the one that's basically just 'God of War' but stupider?

Yes

No, it's god of war but actually challenging with a combat engine that's actually fun, better story and much shittier graphics.

If you buy it for the great game you also support the horrible practices of the company that makes games that are broken shitless. If you truly want to increase the industry standard you have to be a lot more thoughtful than this.

I also don't understand how you could possibly like Dead Space 2. That game just insults the intelligence of the player in every single way and makes way for a obnoxious protagonist that is so unlikable it's like the entire lead of EA along with the charming Nazi Germany propaganda ministry melded into one single guy.

Try playing the game again and think of how the game treats you and you will certainly change your mind.

You think Dead Space 2 insults the intelligence of the player in every single way???

Clearly you have yet to try Dead Space 3 then... lol

Why would I bring myself to play Dead Space 3 when Dead Space 2 was so bad I uninstalled it an hour of gameplay in?

Uh-huh...

I played only the demo of Dead Space 3 hoping the gameplay had improved. It hadn't. It was worse.

Sadly because the majority of gamers are idiots who will buy anything. Hence the reason EA can behave like it does. Make your points loudly enough and "EA Defenders" will start popping out of the woodwork. these sad examples of gamers remind me of beaten housewives that insist on defending their husbands.

I literally just alt+f4'ed out of SWTOR, another EA gem of a great idea gone to hell. Funny thing is? I would SO have payed to play that game. I love story and choice and I dont care about endgame, I was actually mad at all the raiders and endgamers because I felt their criticism when the game came out helped kill it, all the while the selfish jerks being unaware that not everyone played the game for the same reasons they did.
Then F2P came out and I decided to give it another go. OMG, never have I felt so insulted and berated for money at every possible minute than when I tried playing that. i tried to ignore it at first, thinking id just focus on the parts I like abut the game but no. EA has made sure that I am at every moment reminded that I am a freeloading bastard who isnt paying for thier game and, to be honest, had no buisness playing their game. THEN WHYHE FUCK OFFER F2P!! Why not just keep a full trial till lvl 15 or something? Why actively try to shame or frustrate me into paying for your game? What fecking, demented sort of marketing is that?!!!

Ahh but try to put that idea forth in the forums and the "EA Defenders" pounce upon you, moronically repeating: Its f2p, be glad you can play at all. I would pitty these fools (ha!) if I didnt think this kind of person is exactly the kind of mindless, meek, uncritical and undiscerning individuals EA, and in fact any corrupt and greedy corporation feeds on.


And if I am going to be honest with myself, for everything ive said about stupid gamers, half of that must, at the very least, apply as well to me: I still havent uninstalled SWTOR. Back when I played the trial version I loved that game SO much! I WANT to finish those stories! they sound so interesting and involving!, and yet every time I log in the experience is so unbearable that i end up exiting the game mid play.

And that i think is another of the big issues around EA. They make good games. They, or the many studios theyve gobbled up, come up with some fantastic ideas and concepts for games, and they own some of the best triple A titles out there, these are games you WANT to play. But man! the company treats you like DIRT! It really boggles the mind just how badly EA treats its customers, and how fiercly those beaten up customers will defend that blasted company no matter what.


/rant


Jesus that was a lot of pent up rage XD Sorry for turning your post into my soapbox, but really I had JUST logged off and when i saw this...well I saw red.

Hehe was watching the husband play SWTOR I presume you mean Star wars the old republic? We discovered how your decisions dont actually affect the story at all, if you kill a guy someone else just pops up to replace him and says "Oh no you killed that guy, anyway heres what he was about to say"

STOP LIKING WHAT I DON'T LIKE

Huh?

I am going to eventually got Sim City but not right now I am going to pay $20 max for this bomb.
I was excited about another Sim City coming out as I lliked all of the Sim City games from the very first back in the 80s to the Sim City 4 which was the last one I got which I have all of them but like Sim City 3000.
Hopefully some one will give it away to Goodwill were I can buy it for $5.00 or something.
I found Super Mario 3D Land for $20 there and it had just barely come out it was opened but was complete and like new.

It is sad that a company I used to love I now hate with a passion now.

Seriously just play sim city 4, the whole time I was playing this I just found myself missing all the features that they inexplicably decided to remove from this new one,


This one has

* Teeny tiny little plots to build your city,
*limited number of terraisn to choose from
*No highways no elevated rail no subways
*no military bases
*no terrain editing,
*Budgeting is limited to raising and lowering taxes
* No ordinances, to cut costs you literally have to disable buildings and remember to re enable them later,
*AI is utterly broken, sims just run around aimlessly like idiots,
* you can not deploy police or firetrucks or military to disasters
*you have to trust the aforementioned broken ai to know to do it for you and it usually doesnt,
* The disasterous decision to cripple this with always on cloud based DRM means you can not save your cities locally and you routinely lose progress with the "Your city is not processing properly, rollback?" errors

The ONLY thing this version has over the others is prettier graphics, so seriously even at $20 I would highly recommend not bothering.

Ah ok so if anything put it on a wishlist and hope I get it for my Bday or Xmas then? xD
Yeah with every one hating on the newest Sim City I think I might pass unless given to me.

Get CitiesXL. It's like SimCity 4, but with more features, prettier, and deeper simulation.

SimCity (the new one) plays like a high-graphical version of the original sim-city. I'm serious, it has ABSOLUTELY no content AT ALL. Furthermore, the play map is extremely tiny. You can't even begin to hope to build a metropolis like any of the previous.

Because their subsidiaries are really good at making games.

Because in some cases we're kinda forced to support EA. I've been a long time sims fan, and bought about five of the Sims 2 games (both expansions and stuff packs) by the time they made their way onto Steam. The serial codes in my boxed copies? They don't work on Steam. They do however work on Origin. So if I want to have digital copies of my games (much easier to install/uninstall) as a backup or something, i'm forced to use Origin.

My copy of Mirrors Edge comes with the official soundtrack for free. It's not on a CD though. I had to register my copy of Mirrors Edge through Origin to get the soundtrack.

And now they've started outright refusing to sell certain games on Steam, instead making them Origin exclusive.

So trust me when I say that a lot of us using Origin didn't start using it by choice.

Personally? I'm currently having a lot of fun with Poker Night at the Inventory 2. <3

Correction, meant to say Sims 3. Ugh, i've bought way too many Sims games.

Yeah, they went about origin the wrong way, and have done se stupid shit with it IMO. But at the core, they have to have their own digital distribution platform if they want to make money off the publishing side of things in the new age. There's a reason why you can't buy a big Mac in a KFC.

In the end they will have to go where the market is though. If people don't come over to origin, then they will have to forfeit their digital distribution platform. So you can still vote with yor wallet if you hate it XD.

Well ise the frustration thee, but seriously games are a luxury item no one can force you to buy them, and if EAs bad behaviour is rewarded with profit they will continue treating you badly.

well I see the frustation there.... that was a bad series of typos

I wish that BioWare could detach from EA.

They actively trying.

Wait... people still buy stuff from EA? Whoa.

Well that was the second time I did, and never again!

We all see the light, sooner or later.

Seriously, fuck the big publishers. Just stick to small/Indie publishers, or play some classic games, that were released before all this current bullshit. There are already more good games out there than any of us will ever have the time to play, so we don't really -need- the AAA publishers and their new releases. They just need our money. Let's see them actually earn it. :P

Well they just let go of 10% of their workforce. They have made some bad decisions at the top, and have made some bad nets on where gaming is heading, and now they are hurting quite a bit.

I hope they get their act together rather than continue to shrink and/or due. FWIW, I think games are evolving, and EA is trying to find its feet. Some of the stuff they do is baffling though, I think they have some rot at the top.

Thats not news they layoff their QA people all the time.

I buy as few of their products as possible... mostly just BF3.

I could say similar whys about commissioners on this website...
Don't worry, the video game crash is coming.

to tell the truth all gaming has gotten really same and shitty over the last ten years or so it feel like all games need to have guns or killing in them now i miss the good old day where games where filled with fun and not just mindless killing like leap frog and all the old games like that it sames that the game company dont relly whant to risk things any more

i cant type baa giggles and hugs you all

I remember playing Doom 2... Man, this was a real great FPS. Now, they all copy CoD with "presumed tactical game" which includes poor story, thousands of killings and you actually pay 50£ for this crap. I miss the old days, badly.

Says someone who never played Journey.

Lol I'm waiting till the modders release the offline patch mod and the saving feature, then I'm downloading the game :3.
EA lost my respect and my money.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Si.....lic-53739.html

Mmmm.. I remeber back in the early days of EA when they made lots of great stuff from Star Control to Wing Comander to Road Rash.

The thing I think that has been killing them in the eyes of gamers is they've just become far too much about the corperate side of things and not about being a leader in gaming any more. Alot of this has to do with the main level of managment caring more about it's stock numbers rather then if it's doing good overall, kind of like Walmart for the last decade.

I make this compairison since they are both the top of there areas (Walmart is bigest in retail, EA is the bigest 3rd party game company) and are more conserned with how can they mine out more for there stocks rather then making sure that those that like there product stay (and bring others... thus the same effect).

Also I have to say that a lot of there 'excuses' seems to me are more said to keep there stockholders happy rather then gamers. PC game not doing the numbers, well, that's pirates so we need DRM up the wazoo and tell those sock holders that it's just the pirates that are complaining. Console game don't make the excessive numbers that they think a game should make? Well that's used game sales of course. This is to keep those that don't have a clue about games happy and keeping there stock dispite it going down.

Some of the things I realy don't care about. Micro transactions on everything is just silly, this will come down to what the game is more directly then not. I mean don't it cost them money to put something on XBL or PSN? Then why would something that a small number of players are going to use be profitable if there just going to though out a batch with each title. Besides, many game makers looked at this very thing to conter used game sales back when it all started and it is still a good idea.. in moderation.

Mind you, while I understand how there looking at it, I don't think it's good. The last EA game I had gotten from them is from all the way back in 2011 for the console verson of Portal 2. I've bought more from the now dead THQ in the same amount of time.... maybe that slightly proves there point. :P

You bought a product from that shitty company.

Well Im not a gamer so I went in relatively innocent and unaware, what im talking about is people who buy shit form them over and over and over again despite being dissapointed and pissed off every time.

I think most people don't see "EA", they see "Sim City". If they've not been disappointed by the franchise yet, or if they buy into the marketing, then they'll follow through. Most people don't through stuff through, they're not curious, they're impatient and that sort of behavior encourages companies to have shitty business practices. But that's just the most recent form of exploitation, humans have historically always been sheep to a few, well positioned wolves who understood how to manipulate properly.

Thinking is hard, best not worry about things. But those who do may yet be those who are most successful in the end.

Honestly I don't know all the stuff EA did or is doing. The last game I bought from EA was Spore and honestly, I do love that game. The Other titles I own is BattleField 1942, BF2, Simcity 3000, Simcity 2000 and Simcity 4 (That never worked on my pc for some odd reason but does on my brothers... Odd)

I don't know what Orgin is really but oddly have an account (Odd because I dont' remember ever signing up) And from what I read I never heard of having to run orgin to play your game.

It was bad enough when steam came out and it practicly is always there running when I don't want to have it but to play my game. (Though acheivements are nice, Acheivements were in games since the 80's and were apart of the game itself, not an outside service that hosted the game) That is what I don't like about all the Steam and Orgin bull is that I feel as if they are trying to Host the game instead of having a legit copy you paid for. Which begs the question, what happens when they ever close their services? You can't play the game you paid for to begin with?

It seems that there is allot of rage with EA these days and I really don't know all of it but would love to know more about it and where the rage really is placed, the companies or the games.
and in all honesty, are they really as bad as some other companies, Atari with their games in the latter 80's. Activision when they merged and bought our Universial? What about Coleco (Or do you even remember Coleco, or perhaps that is way before your time)?

EA had to of done something right in the past to of survived today, and that being said I am more than certain that the hate and rage wasn't there back then, So what changed?

And to Hammy. The whole tech support thing really that isn't only Orgin and EA. Just trying to get help with Yahoo Mail is like that. Where they will send you to an FAQ and tell you to go figure it all out for yourself. What is so ironic is that a few months ago, Yahoo has Live support. Even Microsoft with Hotmail and MSN had Live Support. But everyone is cutting off the Live support chats with actuall people and going to this BS of an FAQ. If there is one thing that really gets me rilled up it is not being able to communicate with a real person.

II loved Spore until the user created content ruined it, somehow the filters on my game wouldn't work and I could only ever get these poorly made scenarios done by a pair of crazy illiterate guys :D.

As far as I understand Origin is their attempt to rip off steam and judging by the message boards ive been browsing its a comically poor copy of the other companies better service.

Honestly I feel this stuff makes games more complicated than they need to be, In fact when Hammy (the husband) Gets me to try a game, Im usually sick to death of it before im even in the actual game, all the various steps before that just piss me off, you need so many accounts and passwords, you need to create avatars and deal with hacking, communicate with infantile vulgar online gamers, deal with connection and server issues spend ages trying to contact tech support. A lot of these games you cant even quit for fear of upsetting your "guild" and getting reported. Its just not worth it, if the process is any more complicated than putting a cartridge in and hitting start then its all a step backwards as far as im concerned.

Yeah lack of proper support, coupled with increasingly bad manufacturing and qa processes is a growing problem in every consumer industry :)

User content is always something that is either for the good or for the worse. When the game itself filters content. Then it can become a problem very quickly.

Having a game that can have user content will greatly increase the longevity of the game by giving new things for the players to do and adding new content to the game. Though user be ware indeed. I do enjoy User Content though, and if the community is large enough and spread out.(instead of being refined to only one source) You can easily find a community with content that suits you. Needless to say, why isn't there a single place where all content can be found? -.- Sadly you get sites over zealous on what content is allowed and what isn't and this is why many sites are just a head ache when looking for new content. Either the community is not well mature or the content is overly restricted, or noone has the expirence in creating it.

Community in games is always something of a head ache. MMO (Massive Multiplayer Online) games to me are some of the worse games there are out there because of the communiy. You enjoy the socialization but when you toss a person out "there" it is like tossing a person in the void of the internet and that isn't always a good thing. Because it makes it really hard to "fit it" and get allot with anyone when half of them don't speak your language, the other half are under 12 so having a mature convosation will never happen. And the other half don't know the meaning of team work at all. I do enjoy co-ooperation in games and just about every game I own is a co-op game and I still play with my brother time to time.

I can understand with all the accounts. Really I find it annoying too that even council games you need to create and account, then sign in just to play a game. Instead of just having a single save file and being able to create multiple saves, now a game is saved by profile. Then even with PC games, The game is being forced to again have an account with some BS service and you have to have an account with that service. Orgin or Steam. Just to play a game? I would hate for anyone to get banned for some reason. What does that mean? You can no longer play a the game you bought? What if the service ever went under, like all things that come to an end. Would a player be unable to play the game they bought?

Character creation in a game isn't a bother really because it gives you a bit of creativity and puts you in the role of that character. Though many of times this can be a bit irratating, especially when the game in itself is rather dull.

I do agree that I miss the simplicity of games and I really dont' like the direction many games are going. (well not really the game as much as the publication and marketing.

Though with everything being said. What will it take to change the game industry today? Or at the least for one company not to follow in the steps of another and make the same mistakes?

Well what I meant when i mentioned filtering user created content in Spore is, I wanted specifically to block content from one specific user because everything coming from that guy, or guys was unbelievably stupid, to the point that.. it was either a small child or some kind of elaborate trolling scheme, I did the same "Run and pick up eggs without stepping in poo" mission about 100 times, The game refused to let me block that stuff, in fact up until I finally gave up every single scenario I picked up was that shit :D

I used to be heavily into games through the 80s and 90s , But as playing them got more cumbersome and complicated I guess I just gradually lost interest, I dont want gimmicky interfaces "the power glove was bad enough" or leader-boards or social networking or any of that fluff and piddle, just a nice diversion for a few minutes here or there :)

Wow.. That seems a bit of a head ache there. I never did play any user created content with spore. I just blew up allot of planets and made many enemies o.o ....

Back in the early 90s was the age that I picked up games. I played some of my first games on an apple computer and all it was, was a green and black screen with images drawn on it. Wasn't till windows 95 when I played other games in color. Racer games and other strange games. Trolls was one made by CapStone. Still one of my favorite games to date. In 97 is when I got Win 98 and played Mechwarriors on it. That game was awesome. In around 99-00 is when I got my first council, a ps1. At the time the games were really good. First game played was Spyro. It wasn't a year latter that the ps2 came out. That was frustrating. Then you wait and wait to save for the next council and when you get it, not a year latter the ps3. And every time the next concil comes out the price of the game just goes up and up. You used to find a game under $10 then it went to $30 now you are looking at $70-80 just for a game. -.- It was because of the concils not having but a short life and the price of the games that made me stop buying games, not to mention that I spent allot on games and then half of them got stollen. So it sorta made me really really sad and I fell out of it a bit.
Now more than ever I been getting back into games and really been trying to find all the ps2 games that I can. I been on the hunt for games and more games that I never did play and PS2 games are so darn cheap now (under $5 most the time) why not?!

I still to this date perfer my ps2 over my xbox 360. I can give two $&!ts less about graphics and aesthetics. I want my game play and funtionality. What made games fun.

The only EA game I've ever got was Theme Park, lol. After reading this, I don't regret the unintentional abstinence.

Lord knows why they couldn't just keep using Steam just like everyone else, instead of investing in their own shitty service that will never take off.

It's already taking off as EA is making a grand profit by not having to split the money with any third party for sold games over their own platform. And with big games like Mass Effect 3, Battlefield 3, etc - that's a ton of money right down EA's pockets. With the more guys they can force to use Origin through their big titles then the likelihood of the user buying more games over the same service ought to increase.

EA had a bigger profit on PC 2012 than on the PlayStation 3.
http://www.pcgamer.com/2012/08/01/e.....ults-revealed/

That's EA making a profit through exclusivity. I was talking about in terms of popularity. If you could choose between Steam or Origin, I'm going to bet you'd pick Steam. As I would. And as (I assume) everyone else would (other than EA of course).

Honestly - I think one of the best products EA has made was the classic Sherlock Holmes point & click adventure games back in the day for PC -- (Made between 1995-1996, I believe)

"The Lost Files Of Sherlock Holmes: The Case Of The Serrated Scalpel"

and "The Lost Files Of Sherlock Holmes: The Case Of The Rose Tattoo" - both were brilliantly done..

Of course this was back when the logo of EA was the circle, square and triangle, I believe.

Just looked it up, was made by Mythos software published by EA hehe
Even the one game MULE that everyone loved back i the day wasnt made by them

Oh.. lol ... Nevermind then.

Because you guys are a bunch of fucking sheep. :P

Moi? Im an innocent outsider who didnt know what EA was like, I wont make the same mistake again Ill never buy another EA product, Im asking about the people that buy from them over and over again no matter how many times they get screwed.

Well, at least you're innocent and finally know how much of a cancerous company EA really is. I'm simply referring everyone else as sheep as they still continue to buy EA products daily.

thatswhat gets me, they get SOOO ANGRY but still come back for more, So actually I cant really be mad at EA, They have no reason to change as long as they keep making money. And if people keep buying shit from them despite the low quality of the products they have no incentive to do better.