Try the Surface Pro

http://www.penny-arcade.com/2013/02.....ms-surface-pro

that one looks surprisingly promising thanks!

That's the exact thing tons of people want but there are very few options for (esp with nvidia or ati graphics) :/

As maho said the surface pro is out but I wouldn't recommend it first gen and I only comes with intel's HD gfx http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en.....specifications

All the other otpions seem to be limited to intel graphics too

Intel will do ok for gaming but the lack of geforce/radeon is tragic for me in particular as I want to 3d sculpt with one of these. :3

oh yeah surface pro seems liek the best option so far :D

This maybe?

http://www.sagernotebook.com/

hmm they make good stuff, is there a specific model?

None in mind, but I suggest you go according to your budget. In any case, these are customizable computers, so you can always order a basic laptop for now, and upgrade it later.

I know you're looking for a laptop, so this may not help at all, but I cannot recommend Yiynova enough. Fanatastic screen tablets for a fraction of the price of a cintiq. [I say, in case you'd rather spend the money on two separate items, since you could probably get a decent laptop AND the biggest size yiynova for that much]

Im in the market for a new cintiq too so thanks :d

This is the one I have: http://www.amazon.com/Yiynova-MSP19...../dp/B009QQ7BG0 and while it's gone up a little in price, it's still miles more reasonably priced than even the smallest cintiq [and it's huge! I love the thing :3]

There's no drawing tablet with discrete graphics, as far as I know.

Honestly, don't buy anything right now. Wait for Haswell. Intel JUST refreshed their CPUs, and the new ones will be more powerful and have better battery. Plus old models will get discounted. :D

I didnt know thanks!

Yeah, it's gonna be a huge improvement. :D 30-50% performance improvements, and 50% battery life increase over current machines. Definitely worth waiting for machines with Haswell CPus!

Prob is, Hammy needs it for an upcoming trip :)

I was just going to recommend the same thing. Wait 3-5 months for Haswell. The onboard GPU in Haswell is far better than the HD4000 series in the current Ivy Bridge processors. By then AMD's architecture refresh will likely be out and they're CPU/GPU will probably have a better GPU than what Haswell has.

I wonder if I can put Win 7 on the Surface...

It might be possible, but I wouldn't recommend it. There wouldn't be any official driver support, and you wouldn't get any firmware updates. The hardware is designed for Windows 8, and Windows 8 was designed for this sort of hardware, so the experience will be best that way.

If you're really hung up about not being able to boot to desktop or not having a start menu, there are utilities that bring both of those features back to Win 8.

Maybe hold on, Intel just released their new line of processors which means there will be a plethora of new laptops coming out in the next half year. While I don't know of any at all let alone ones with an active digitizer from what is being boasted about the new processors it seems they will be quite a lot better than the current generation, especially in the graphical performance department.

good point!

I don't really have a particular computer to show you, but if I were you I'd choose one with a nvidia gpu, for it's slightly better than ATI, and try to find a laptop with Windows 7 instead of Windows 8 for it has a better compatibility with games. Steam for instance is reluctant to develop its games for Windows 8 because the Metro interface is hard to handle. Plus Windows 8 looks awful but this is just my opinion ;)
Buy a computer with an Intel core i7 processor, that's what I have and it's just fucking powerful. 8Gb of ram is enough, nothing even uses that much memory today.
You should see a computer reseller, he will give you good advice, but I mean a GOOD reseller, not a big shop which also sells TV, DVD, cameras and stuff... A computer professional.
Try to avoid shitty brands such as Acer, HP, and this kind of shit, and stick to good brands like Asus, msi, Dell (or Alienware which belongs to Dell), Toshiba. I really don't know how Microsoft Surface things last but regarding the xbox lifespan, I wouldn't try surface... Microsoft isn't known to make quality products.

Thanks!, it looks liek theres no wacom enabled laptops with ati OR Nvidia unfortunately :/

What do you call wacom enabled laptop? All windows laptops are compatible with wacom tablets, I have no problem with mine.

As in it has a screen that you can draw on

Ah yeah I see.

The only two tablets at current are Samsung Ativ and the Microsoft Surface Pro but they're very lite for a gaming rig, as was already stated. In fact the only laptops that are built specifically for gaming (I assume you mean it can handle current games like Planetside2/Battlefield3/Skyrim/etc) are listed here:

http://asia.cnet.com/top-5-gaming-n.....e-39241882.htm

To add to what folks above have said: I would also recommend waiting a few more months, perhaps half a year. The Samsung ATIV 700T and the Microsoft Surface Pro are available right now and are getting nice reviews for their performance as Wacom digital art slates, but they are not high-end gaming machines. (Disclaimer: I own a Samsung ATIV 700T and am loving it so far. ArtRage works wonderfully with the Wacom functionality and it is a great general computer otherwise, but turn off "Use Wintab" in the ArtRage options to get zoom and rotate to work with multitouch.) Although, some folks are having decent results on them with gaming, depending on settings.

Intel's Haswell CPU has definite promise, I agree. However, licensing and integrating Wacom functionality on top of a tablet or laptop takes extra funding, so not all manufacturers will go for it. On the other claw: Wacom themselves are hinting about a new all-in-one tablet PC+Wacom they have in the works, but this has been very secretive. It is supposed to be out this year but finding information on it is extremely difficult. I mention it, but I have no links, sorry. They have it tightly under wraps.

Problem there is its for a trip the hubby is takign shrotly so he needs it soon :)

http://mobileoffice.about.com/od/la.....Tablet-Pcs.htm

Good compilation. There is an excel table at the end with all data easily comparable.

You will find few tablets with anything but a HD 4000... Although it's not THAT terrible for games.

http://m.tomshardware.com/reviews/i.....0k,3181-5.html

you should be fine with the lenovo yoga.

Wacom is coming out with their own multi touch tablet this summer. I am waiting to see more about it myself. This will be a first for them.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/2013/0.....in-summer-2013

I reccomend the HP Pavillion g7 w/ windows 8.
Other than the windows 8 it runs games amazingly. I play minecraft with over 60 frames a second.

thanks :D

I dont want to be that guy but if you want to drop stupid money on something like this there's also the http://www.modbook.com/modbookpro Modbook Pro option. Its super expensive, but its a macbook pro with a beautiful screen, wacom input, and can run windows and osx (if youre into that)


Only posting this since its an option that wasnt mentioned. Even if you can get 3 Surface Pro's for the same price.

They are beautiful and tempting :)

Yea, if I had the kind of silly money it takes to buy one of those and not think twice, i would.

well the Intel graphics are a little iffy

Theyre honestly not as bad as theyve been. I have a macbook air with the sandy bridge cpu in it (so a generation behind the current modbook's) and it's surprisingly good for what it is.

Keep in mind NOT all use the Wacom digitizer.

Lenovo, Asus and Sony also have some machines with Windows 8 and that are pen enabled.

Lenovo ThinkPad Helix (uses Core i7): http://www.lenovo.com/products/us/t.....annerHelix&;
Asus VivoTab (uses Atom): http://www.asus.com/us/Tablets_Mobi...../ASUS_VivoTab/
Sony VAIO Duo (can use Core i7 or less): http://store.sony.com/c/VAIO-Duo-11.....s8:ss:Targeted


Have fun!

I actually have the Lenovo x200t and its AMAZING! Though not great for games Im not a gamer and I posted this journal for someone else who is a gamer :)

Lenovo is quite great I believe and the Helix uses a Wacom digitizer, but personally I wait a few months for Haswell... but if you can't you'll have to check what's on the market.


Take care! :3

I did some checking into the Surface Pro. Yea it has Wacom technology, but as of yet there are no drivers for pressure sensitivity to work with programs like Photoshop, and Painter.

I'm not a gamer my self, for I'm using Photoshop CS6 with an Intel i3, with Graphics 3000. Even though it's a little sluggish at times, it works. Then again I had to go that rout until I could afford something better. I'm looking at a Sony, or even a Samsung with an i5 or better.

Thanks :), I think in the end he went with some razor edge pro, doesnt have the wacom screen but he decided the gaming features where more impotant.