Hey, let's toss some fuel on this fire!
19 years ago
Wow, this whole conversation about whether or not to ban cub art really makes me sick. I'm not going to go into a big rant about this, I'd just like to say a few short things. First: Where do people get off saying that just because they like something in their fantasies, they must be into the same thing in real life? Furries. Animals. Furries are animals. So by this wonderful logic, all of us must love beastiality! Oh noes!
And my second statement.
Y'know, I never thought I'd be saying something like this. I always saw it as a haven for those who are mentally deranged or too over-eager for their own good, but... If cub art is ban, I'm removing "my" art from FA. That is, the collabs from me and Sotelo and the PChat logs. I will not leave FA, per se, but I will cease to exist as an entity here. I have no wont to participate in a gallery where any fetish can be singled out and marked as OMG RONG GET IT OF MY INTERNTZ B4 I CUT MYSLEF. I realize that FA is not a democracy; however, if you're going to call yourself the place where freedom of expression reigns, then you may want to hold that up.
Note that this journal is not meant in any way to attack the wonderful admins of this site, a couple of whom I know personally. You guys do a great job. The problem here lies, as Dragoneer mentioned, in the fact that some people have misinterpreted some information, gone on to spread that misinformation, and gotten a whole bunch of people to show up at the gates wielding pitchforks and torches, demanding a sacrifice.
However, I'd like to say this: There is NO point where an issues has "gone beyond the control of the admins." You guys may want to be the "good guys" and hurt as few people as you can and not step on any toes, but here's the issue: It's still your archive. Just because public opinion (read; popularity vote) wants to make a change doesn't mean you have to. Same for the cub side. You could just stick to the TOS and start enforcing it. But the fact of the matter is you can't do anything without pissing some people off. Throwing this issue to the users-at-large isn't the way to fix it, though. All that does is start a big flame war and makes the issue worse. Before the poll I (and a large number of other users, I'm sure) was blissfully unaware of any problem. Had you guys made a ruling then and there, it would have stayed that way. Had you decided to remove cub art, then people would just look at it as "Oh, I guess they're going to enforce that part of the TOS now. Alright, whatever." or "Oh, I guess they're re-writing that part of the TOS. Alright, whatever." A few people on each side of the issue may have left, but the damage done would have been minimal.
Now, though, you've given the issue airtime and people have divided into camps. There are large discussions (read: arguments) in the forums and on people's journals, and cub artists are being flamed and dragged around the square as pedophiles. You guys need to sit down and come up with a ruling, one way or the other. I keep wanting to make an argument for cub art, but that's just going against all I said. This is YOUR decision, admins. Not ours. Whatever you say, I'll stand behind, but I can't say I'll be happy if it's to remove cub art... But again, I'm not the one making the decision. My happiness is not the issue here, it's what you guys want this archive to "say" to the world outside. Do you want to imply "We support pedophilia" or are you going to go for my centered tagline earlier in the post? Choose wisely.
I know I said I wasn't going to get ranty, but... I just started typing and it all came out. Gomen.
And my second statement.
Furaffinity.net: Where FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION reigns. (Unless you'd like to express something that we find morally questionable, distasteful, uncomfortable, or otherwise unacceptable to us.) Y'know, I never thought I'd be saying something like this. I always saw it as a haven for those who are mentally deranged or too over-eager for their own good, but... If cub art is ban, I'm removing "my" art from FA. That is, the collabs from me and Sotelo and the PChat logs. I will not leave FA, per se, but I will cease to exist as an entity here. I have no wont to participate in a gallery where any fetish can be singled out and marked as OMG RONG GET IT OF MY INTERNTZ B4 I CUT MYSLEF. I realize that FA is not a democracy; however, if you're going to call yourself the place where freedom of expression reigns, then you may want to hold that up.
Note that this journal is not meant in any way to attack the wonderful admins of this site, a couple of whom I know personally. You guys do a great job. The problem here lies, as Dragoneer mentioned, in the fact that some people have misinterpreted some information, gone on to spread that misinformation, and gotten a whole bunch of people to show up at the gates wielding pitchforks and torches, demanding a sacrifice.
However, I'd like to say this: There is NO point where an issues has "gone beyond the control of the admins." You guys may want to be the "good guys" and hurt as few people as you can and not step on any toes, but here's the issue: It's still your archive. Just because public opinion (read; popularity vote) wants to make a change doesn't mean you have to. Same for the cub side. You could just stick to the TOS and start enforcing it. But the fact of the matter is you can't do anything without pissing some people off. Throwing this issue to the users-at-large isn't the way to fix it, though. All that does is start a big flame war and makes the issue worse. Before the poll I (and a large number of other users, I'm sure) was blissfully unaware of any problem. Had you guys made a ruling then and there, it would have stayed that way. Had you decided to remove cub art, then people would just look at it as "Oh, I guess they're going to enforce that part of the TOS now. Alright, whatever." or "Oh, I guess they're re-writing that part of the TOS. Alright, whatever." A few people on each side of the issue may have left, but the damage done would have been minimal.
Now, though, you've given the issue airtime and people have divided into camps. There are large discussions (read: arguments) in the forums and on people's journals, and cub artists are being flamed and dragged around the square as pedophiles. You guys need to sit down and come up with a ruling, one way or the other. I keep wanting to make an argument for cub art, but that's just going against all I said. This is YOUR decision, admins. Not ours. Whatever you say, I'll stand behind, but I can't say I'll be happy if it's to remove cub art... But again, I'm not the one making the decision. My happiness is not the issue here, it's what you guys want this archive to "say" to the world outside. Do you want to imply "We support pedophilia" or are you going to go for my centered tagline earlier in the post? Choose wisely.
I know I said I wasn't going to get ranty, but... I just started typing and it all came out. Gomen.
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