Thanks for sharing! There was a good portion of some of this talked about at FurCon this year, I went to a panel called "Commissioning For Artists And Commissioners".

Of course hearing such complicated stuff on PayPal scares me out of getting PayPal again... *laughs* It's funny because I have a friend who buys a lot of hentai doujinshi and as you know PayPal doesn't look kindly on "adult services" being paid for through them. So, she makes a big deal about always classifying adult stuff as "gifts" and avoiding the fees. I wonder if she realizes that it could get into trouble if you need a refund...? *hmmmm*

I kinda knew most of this,but it's always good to read it again and even see info one might not have known before.

Does she know about the paypal stuff? To many gifts will seem suspicious after awhile and she could get her account frozen for a time as they look into it.

You know...I have to wonder if she knows that because...a few months ago, she was really complaining that her PayPal account was frozen. She was really, REALLY angry at this...so I bet she doesn't know that "too many gifts=suspicious". Wow. That's also a good thing to consider. Maybe that's how the "tip jar" thing got started...so that certain gifts could be given all the time, without the labels of "gifts" all the time?

So, maybe you can answer this question, since I don't know much about it--suppose you do want to purchase an "adult piece of art" from an artist, how do you classify that in the PayPal thing? I mean, how specific is PayPal in what they want the "what payment is for" mentioned as?

I don't know about the tip jar too much. But if it's only occasionally that someone receives a gift it's ok. Paypal just wants their little fee payed. And I see no reason to only want to accept gifts. It''s like 50 cents they take or something when a payment comes in. It's no be deal.

Um for the question. It asks if this is a purchase of goods or services and then there's the for family/gift option. If it's not a physical item your gonna be receiving(since it's for an art.unless it's gonna be shipped to you) One unchecks the shipping address. Because even if you use this option too much and then the artist isn't shipping things out,they can get their account frozen as well.

That's pretty much it. The note that is optional when sending or receiving a payment is just that,optional. You don't have to fill anything out in it. And I tell those that I'm receiving a payment from to not mention furaffinity,their usernames/my username or anything about adult material. Because if I remember right paypal knows of furaffinity and the adult nature of it at times. So usernames can be a bad thing to mention in the note. And of course don't mention it's for anything adult.
If the artist wants to they can send out an invoice,so that they know for sure no mention of "bad" things can potentially happen. I've considered doing that as well. But haven't figured out the invoices yet.

That makes sense. (Jeeze...my friend makes a big deal about PayPal fees that are likely 50-cents???) I've heard about that, too...which is why I know that PayPal can be extremely picky on things when they know it could be adult related. I noticed that in that journal, someone even made the recommendation of sending a receipt physically to a person so they could prove something was shipped out....I think that's a great idea, but I do know a lot of people around here who refuse to take the physical piece of art I do for them, too...because they simply don't want to reveal their address.

I could understand not wanting to give out ones address. But the services option is fine instead of the item one,though it's been put in the same option now. So that's why one has to uncheck the shipping address to no shipping required.

There was one artist that did a commission for me that I wanted the physical piece for. But circumstances came up and she never could get it to me.

Awwwww...that's too bad!

I guess it seems weird to me, coming that I'm from a world of pen-pals and sending things in the mail has never been a big issue for me (although, the Postal Service really needs to start cleaning up internal issues that result in damaged mail if they truly want to keep their business). *laughs* But I try to accomodate people when they say so. (I think more people actually are shocked in the end that I'll willingly mail things to them at no cost... *lol*)

I get kinda excited when I'm expecting something in the mail. But there's also that tiny worry about things getting lost in transit too. But it's only really happened to me the one time as much as I can remember. If I had the extra cash I'd be making crocheted animals to send to family and friends just because I want to make them things.

I think...in about the 20 years I've used the Postal Service for packages, I've only ever had two small packages ever get completely lost. Anything important, I try to put in a box, rather than a bubble-mailer envelope (since those are the ones that went missing). But I have had a number of packages I've sent get majorly damaged in the past year or so, just in the past year or so! To me...I'd rather splurge the extra couple bucks on a box and make sure the items make it, than have them never reach their destination.

(I still have the traditional Shadow drawing I made for you ready, in case it ever comes to wanting to send it to you someday, too! )