Am I A Jerk?
12 years ago
I joke around a lot, that's clear, you know that. I recently offended someone who, even knowing it was a joke, said it was something I can't joke around about (which they wouldn't tell me what it was so I still have no idea..), which hurts because I try to be on my best behavior on streams, only really making "offensive" jokes towards good friends who know I'm not serious..
I love making friends an I want everyone to like me, but I don't want to stop BEING me for the sake of making friends.
Still.. I'd like to know.. Do you think I'm offensive in some way? This is merely an Eye-Opener Journal for me, I won't get mad, I promise. I just want to see if there's something I can work on to be more, "appealing" to be near.
I love making friends an I want everyone to like me, but I don't want to stop BEING me for the sake of making friends.
Still.. I'd like to know.. Do you think I'm offensive in some way? This is merely an Eye-Opener Journal for me, I won't get mad, I promise. I just want to see if there's something I can work on to be more, "appealing" to be near.
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i love your artwork, and concept. if someone says comment offensive so...
that is the jerk.
either way eye love joos
As someone who occasionally is in your streams when you happen to be chatting and whatnot, no, you're not offensive in any way and are probably one of the nicest people out there.
And I agree, what they and people like them need to understand is that the Rule of the Universe is "You can't learn something unless someone or something else tells you it!"
Though yeah, it goes along with people trying to manipulate others. Like, "if I don't tell him what he did wrong, I'll eventually get into his head and get stuff." Least that is how I see it at times and what's happened to me on occasion.
Still; wouldn't/shouldn't let it bother you. <3
With that said, the way you tell this story, it kinda sounds like the person who was offended is being the jerk. If you're offended, tell the person why so they can fix the problem. Obviously, I don't know the whole story, and maybe they did tell you but in a roundabout way that you didn't catch or something, but taken at face value, I don't think you're the jerk here.
First time I went to your stream for a commission I found that you're a pretty cool guy(and I hope to be back for another one in the future)! =)
And sometimes, with all of our different tastes in humor, offending people just can't be avoided. What can you do, you know? @w@
Thanks.
A real jerk would have either-
A) brushed it off as somebody being too sensitive and forgotten already.
B) laughed and made fun of the person who said it wasn't something to joke about.
So no, you're not a jerk.
But before reacting, read this text whole. Consider I'm telling you with all the sincerity I'm possible and as close to a friend as I can. Sometimes saying your thoughts is difficult, over all if you're super shy.
One of the things why you are known -aside of the art- are the jokes that you do, sometimes insensitive. Sometimes you tend to yell to people over petty things, and you get angry very easily. Believe it or not that was the reason why it was so extremely difficult to start daring to talk or to say anything in your streams. Basically the fear to be yelled out of nothing (or what I felt it was nothing).
I am aware we talked about this some weeks ago in a stream, and you have been working in fixing these problems, but you havent changed completely. And that is understandable, to certain extent: I keep several of my past defects, even if I worked hard for leaving them. Some defects will never be completely left, indeed.
The thing is: Always, when you're going to react or to say something, try to see everything from the point of view of the other person. Sometimes is difficult, over all if that person thinks different to you, but doing that requires time learning to do it. By example, you can't yell a person that is just trying to get a friend, doesn't matter how noob that person is. Some people have strong difficulties for having the bravery to talk or to ask stuff, and being yelled would only throw them off.
That can be applied to all sort of things. Is somebody on your stream pissing you off? Pause for a moment and think "Why is he doing it?".
Getting used to do that always, will make you be more empathic, and hence being seen as less jerkish. You aren't a god -nor am I nor is anybody-; we all are human beings and we sometimes commit errors and mistakes, and some of us like different things.
I'd say look around and think: "Why does people gets closer to me? What do I have to offer to that people that makes me sightly interesting?".
That's it, actually.
Don't think I'm telling this to you in a bad way. I tell this to you because I still care about you, what happens around and the people that surround us. We all belong to the same group, after all.
However half the reason I stream is for company, and when nobody talks it gets lonely, which upsets me. When I call out for people to talk they say stuff like "Don't know what to talk about." You say because they might be intimidated, which can be true, most likely is the case too, which is why my more recent streams I've been just jabbering away most of the time, and reading the replies, instead of just waiting for someone else to start the convorsations.
I consider myself guilty of once saying "I dont know what to talk about", but I later understood that you're right on that. One of the reasons why I stream too is company, actually.
Also I understand that is very difficult to get in the shoes of other person, but is an effort that well worths the investment. You can be seen as intimidating and/or mean -that is basically how I saw you in the past before we got to talk- and you can be seen as somebody nice. Since clearly you want to be seen as the second (somebody nice), trying to understand others its the key for that. That is, actually, why most of the times I am very careful who do I joke about or about the exact moment to throw a joke, even when I'm the streamer. I know it may sound ugly that i'm citing myself as example, but sadly is the only example I have handy now.
And like it happened in my stream that time, if you see the other person is becoming mad for real, talk to that person privately and apologize, even if deep inside you feel you are right. This is not a competition, and things can always be spoken later when the heat of the situation already colded up. I have lost friends in the past due to just replying stuff in the heat of the discussion, and I do not want that to happen to you nor to anybody, because its one of the worst feelings when it happens with somebody you genuinely appreciate and love.
Just my two cents. :)
Damn my grammar.
I know we don't talk much but I don't think I could ever say you were a bad friend to me or someone I'd dislike.
From my view point you're a cool dude! If people think you're a jerk who cares! You have friends who are appreciateive of you for who you are!
Yeah that's something I have to remind myself from time to time. I can't possibly be friends with everyone, there's a limit to how many people I can have as friends and make time to spend time with.
however all that being said, I do also see where your coming from especially online its hard to read and judge how people will respond so some things and because of that something intended to be innocent can be taken the wrong way or out of context
do I think you are a jerk? I believe there are some things you can work on like everyone has, you have your moments as we all do
but no your not a complete jerk and you are my friend regardless of a few bumps in the road we may have had :3
But the few times I was around, I saw you had a higher level of intensity than most would. I guess it's not a huge issue, considering you could have it marked up as being passionate, but when you meet new people and they see your very confrontational demeanor, it can be a little off putting.
I doubt you will remember it, but I remember during my commission that you had streamed you got pretty upset with me over something I would not even consider noteworthy, that is, I was talking too fast.
I do not want to cause a problem, especially because I know you are a shit ton of fun to converse with, so I am thinking the few times we talked were under stressful circumstances and perhaps I am getting a bad impression. In any case, I say this not out of maliciousness, but just being honest and answering your question. Shit, I don't think I am perfect either, so a few minor character flaws are not a big deal.
It's not easy to ask others about what our own faults are, but the fact that you're doing so means that you're trying to better yourself, and that's something all of us should do!
As for the journal at hand, yes some of what other people have said is true, but I always thought of you as someone who expressed himself better through art that with words :3
You're a generous person, and have always been a good friend to me. And the few times in the past where you may have said something that hurt my feelings, you were very quick to make up with me.
Self reflection is never easy, but being aware of your own faults is something that will always make you a better person in the long run. :3
But in short, no, I don't think you're a jerk at all :>
From what I know of you, you're definitely not a jerk though, you're a pretty nice person both to friends and random FA people.
So the person you're talking about is probably just being oversensitive about a joke, although it's hard to judge either side of the story when (s)he won't even tell what it's about. :V
(Then again, saying somebody did something to offend you and then not telling them what it was is pretty lame)
On a more serious note...No... GOD no XD If you're a jerk, then I'm a super-villain =P
JK, thanks man!
but well being carfull of what we say is always important, " did i know this person enougeh to tell them this ? " is mostly what i ask myself
everytime i do jokes , like i said for my point of veiw you are a guy who like joking and thats how i take it , jokes..
Sounds like they got their jimmies rustled.
I feel as though I could have worded this better, but I kinda just woke up. XwX
Anyway, try not to let em get to ya buddy. Ya got friends who know you better than that and understand. :3
*extends a paw*
I also know how it feels with the not being told. I had someone who use to not talk to me, insult me, and be mean because of things I was never told about. So I know how it is to get called something or to -hurt- someone and not know how. If you want to talk about it at all you can note me.
That said, you needn't necessarily change yourself. Just accept that some people won't like you, even if you like them.
You're a big name in some of these circles. That will foster a lot of resentment as well as admiration. For the record, I'd bet you only care this time because it is someone you know that you've pissed off.
And I've never seen this person this upset either, it's not a nice feeling.
I find your humor and comments to be awesome, personally. They remind me of my kind of humor. Generally people need to know ME before they understand my humor. Random question: may I add you on Skype =D?
Keep on being you. Some people may have a problem with it, but most of the time they're not worth the time anyways
-Hasp
I understand that some subject matter people can get quite passionate about, (there is even some that I do as well), but not explaining what it is, especially after asking is just imature and not going to help with the greater understanding of the situation.
What I think I am trying to say is that you shouldn't get too worried about the situation and that it is a sign of how much you DO care.that you made this journal entry. The fact that you seem to be reading through it carefully and responding rationally is further proof of this!
You are one of the better artist I follow on this site, in both quality and content. Don't let this get you down! The are plenty more mice like me that you need to 'help'.
Thanks for your time reading, if not TLDR: thank you for being awesome.
And about the guy who is offended, it sound like he might be trying to get some attention, I know so because I am myself a bit of an attention whore, and being offended is often use as a way to draw attention to yourself, or he might not fully understand why he is offended himself: sometimes the emotional side of your brain isn't in sink with your logical side, making you feel sad/angry/disgusted about something which seems silly or trivial, which might explain why he doesn't wanna tell. That or he might just be angry with you for another reason, and was merly looking for an excuse to be angry at you.
I don't think it's a terribly bad thing though.
Hope to be able to chat with you again soon.
Although I can't say you have offended me because I can tell when you are kidding.
Some people do go through struggles daily, or /have/ gone through struggles in their past that shape their mood and how they react to certain situations.
Don't stop being yourself for somebody else. If they get really offended with things that you do, then it might be good advice to just go your separate ways.
Of course there are other options, I'm just not sure what else to say. xD
I like you just how you are.
Obviously, things are different now! The only thing that offends me is being called Makunt.
...
*glares* >;c
Honestly, if they won't actually tell you what you did wrong, that means they're not allowing you a solution, and all you can do is assume they're screwing with you.
as always keep up the good work sincerely you bud TryManX
But to sum it up. I don't think you are a jerk.
You have at times frustrated me to unprecedented levels before, Broke my sune heart, and made me cry.
But you have also mad me happy, smile, laugh, and have a good time. I know we dun talk much these days, but just know you'll always be loved by me.
Much love bro,
Salty
But no, you're not a jerk.
Although your writing style, particularly in comments and replies to comments, tends to be both heavily opinionated and rather terse, which can make it come off as sounding angry and mean spirited at times, even though that is not the intent.