Well what you should do is... Aw crud! im cant answer cuz im not one of you studs. -__- :: huffs in corner::

Why do you have to prove to them you are gay. If they don't believe you, that's there problem. Excuse any bad typing, one hand is...preoccupied. I MUST HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT YOUR PR0NZ! :3

Awesome, I love when people beat off to my pronz!

I don't really, it's not exactly a badge of honour I keep near my heart, ya know? I've still got a homophobic streak myself. But it's a little annoying to come out of the closet and end up back inside just 'cause you don't extend your pinky when you chug a beer.

Hmm. Well I don't feel there is any way to BE gay (besides the whole boy loving boy thing). Just be yourself, that's all you have to worry about. The word gay has become so distorted and stereotyped, that it's hard sometimes to "be gay" With out being stereotypical. And being stereotypical is wrong~!....though sometimes amusing.

AND YOUR PRONZ IS HAWT! <3 *sexplosion*

HAHA, WHICH BRINGS US TO THE POINT THAT I SHOULD POST JOURNALS LESS AND PRONZ MORE!

Agreed! All I favour?

Aye!

All opposed?

...

The decision is final!

I don't need people proving to me that they're straight. Why should you feel the need to prove that you're gay? It's not like there's any set definition for a person based on their sexuality. It's all about personality, and that has nothing to do with living up to a stereotype.

That is good wisdom... but even when the reaction is poor, I feel I'm doing the morally right thing when I let other people label me as 'FAG'. It's naive and optimistic and ridiculously childish, but I'd like to think once in awhile my super non-gay personality gives someone a reason not to completely generalize queers in their personal views.

you dont need to do anything extraordinary to prove anything. Being gay is like be hetero, it's just another way to love, when you are hetero you dont go everywhere saying "hi, good afternoon, my name is --- and I'm hetero" of course not. Society have make being gay like something curious or special, the image they have of a gay is what you see in extravagant bars or pride parades, but you can see gay people everywhere, and you wont notice it, because they are doctors, bus drivers, lawyers... we are normal people that love in a diferent way. Just feel fine about yourself, you dont need prove anything to anyone. But... if you really wanna impress and show your gay side^^ kiss a guy in public, that will rock!^^ ... but serioulsy.. dont worry about what people think about you, it's your life, live it and be happy^^

You are all apparently much better at being gay then me :P I think in future I will shut my mouth and not post self-centered journals without giving it a little rational thought before hand.

It's ok post this kind of journals, and share what you feel^^ after all... you said it's the only gay social place you know, so feel free to express yourself, you are wellcome here, hetero, gay, bi, or whatevere you are *hug*

well Im Bi, but I would say try easing into it, considering that most people are closed minded about those kinds of thing.

like try making a comment and just seeing what their reaction is....just not to major >_>

Nah, Ryu, I've told 'em I'm gay. About six times now. The problem is that they don't believe me.

wow, seriously? thats stupid ^^
um, huh.....how smart r these guys....?

tell me an example of when u tell them, cause if ur saying it like "no really, Im gay" or saying it sarcatically they can take it different ways >.>

Eh, one is a linear minded racist, but the rest seem to be of functioning IQs. I seem to be just very ungay. Except when I am actually having gay sex.

aw, I get it. hm, well I guess just just showing um some of ur gay non pron art would work(if u show em ur pron, it might seem over the top).....wait, do u even have non pron art >.>?

Of course having gay sex is the only thing all gay guys have in common. That and rink ribbons in your hair. You're wearing pink ribbons aren't you?

Please don't bring to light that I am one of those annoying queers who still isn't over the whiney self-loathing stage enough to not generalize his own sexuality :P

Join the Crowd, oh Flaming one (Flaming beaver that is). Except for the fact I have TEH GAY sex, 99% of people I run across don't realise I am gay. Don't think stereotypes, becuase not NEARLY all gays are the "flaming" (as in Madonna) type

Hm. If I was coming out to people that didn't believe I was bi, I'd probably offer to show them some gay porn! Of course I have the chutzaph to actually show it to them if they actually wanna see.
If you have any hump buddies over there in .jp, you might introduce them to your other friends just casually if the opportunity comes up. "Oh, hey guys. Hey Chad, these are some of my friends from work; guys this is Chad, I've been sucking his cock." Or you can amuse them by telling them who'se 'hot', or not, 'cute' or not, etc.
Not that you especially NEED to prove your gayness, as others have said. but those are amusing ways to get people used to the idea.

I showed up on Saturday at 8 in the morning decked out in Jagermeister kitsch and announced to them all I'd been out drinking and having gay sex. Exact words. They still don't buy it.

But I think I'll try the level headed approach people here are fond of and let it slide. Gay or not, I shouldn't be overly concerned... and if they ask me if I'm srsly gay one more time I'll just sock 'em in the jaw!

I think showing off a folder or two full of big nekkid menz is probably still gonna be your best bet in the end... it would probably be enough to show off the thumbnails, maybe a video clip or two, not like you have to walk anyone through all your faves in full detail.

I do actually respect your goal of wanting to undermine stereotypes with your own example, and can understand how annoying it is to be doubted on something like that. But really, short of bringing some guy home and frenching him in front of the roomies (repeatedly, followed by a grope or two), I think a quick porn-demo is still the easiest and most straightforward way to go, especially if you've got a big enough collection that they wouldn't imagine you just went out and grabbed a few gay pics just to keep the "joke" going.

Yeah, it's a pretty big collection... I'm sure it'd do the trick. But I'm giving serious thought to the 'let em think what they want' mindset, it seems more noble... and other qualities I'd like to pretend I possess.

Heh, yeah, I saw you had been mostly talked down from the prove-it idea by the time I responded... I'm just the li'l devil on your left shoulder (see my horns?? <--- ) tryin' to get you to say "noble, schmoble!" but, wouldn't ya know it, I was both late AND outnumbered by those pesky angels on this one. I'll get ya next time tho for sure, rawr!

Just to repeat what others have said: does it matter?

It isn't your responsibility to cater to the opinions of others, nor their impressions of you.

Your friends obviously accept you, which is the most improtant thing; tall, short, fat, skinny, straight, gay, bi, blue eyed, brown eyed, anime-purple eyed... it doesn't matter.

Your friends like you for you regardless of the parts that make you who you are. Perhaps they're just razzing you and already get the point but pretend to be ignorant because they know it gets a rise out of you, or maybe they ARE in the dark. The one thing they CAN'T say is that you haven't been honest with them.

There isn't really a "way" to be gay just like there's not a "way" to be straight. If they're your friends then you have nothing to proove to them and they won't care one way or the other.

Yeesh... this is really strange... I've used the EXACT same arguments to tell one of my effeminate male friends that he doesn't have to prove to people that he's straight. How's THAT for a switch? O.o

Haha, well, his problem is much less shallow then mine :P Being gay with the stigma of being straight is just irritating. Being straight with the stigma of being gay can probably really hurt a guys self esteem. But if straight guy can put up with being called fag, then I guess I can live with being a filthy hetero!

I know how you feel. I had a couple friends in high school who kept trying to set me up with girls (or in the case of the girls, just try to have sex with me). They thought once I had straight sex, I would magically change my mind and stop being gay.

If you want to get them to believe you without actually having sex with them, you could always subscribe to a gay magazine or two. I'm sure if you kept gay literature around that wasn't porn they would be more likely to think that it wasn't a joke.

Non-porn gay literature? Is there such a thing? Great plan actually, but all the books and zines here tend to be in kanji and all that... I could get the standard english mag and place a personal ad in the queer section... but that actually still sounds kinda jokey, doesn't it.

Especially since it will read something like, "Hey fatties, holler back for hot loving."

well you know im a big ole queer, hehe. tho, im hot for ether sex :3

-Z

Start talking about titties and pussy CONSTANTLY when you're with them. They'll think you're trying to compensate for having teh gay by acting too much like you have teh straight instead, and they'll see through it and realize that you're gay.

Reverse psychology: it really works, except for when it doesn't really work!

Unfortunately Hips, I do talk about them. A lot. Some of the most inappropriate comments ever :P
I'm just an all around sex approving kind of guy ;)

Well, if that doesn't work, then clearly, these people are thick as bricks!

Unfortunately, I have no further advice, other than just yelling "I'M SOOOO NOT GAY!" at random interjections when you're around them.

If forward psychology didn't work, reverse psychology has to work somehow. :P

Lol, you know, I think I'm a' gonna do that anyway, just cause it's right up my alley.

if you live in america than you understand that our culture imposes strict boundries on you based on whatever you identify as/with

which is prolly why you feel the need to identify yourself since our culture demands you to "choose a side"

Be glad your not living up to the identity that our culture has invented for us to traps us.

im totally gay
and so ?

Hey, no commenting after I've changed the entry! You'll think it was more sordid then it actually was!

heheh ops :P

I like your plan best. ^_^

I like how people automatically think it's their business to know.

Whenever they just find out (from someone else quite a bit) and they ask me: "Why didn't you ever tell me?", I just give my standard response:

"YOU NEVER ASKED!"

I feel not giving a crap about it is the best approach. And if someone doesn't believe you, fuck 'em. Not really, well, unless they're really cute. :3

Oh shit!
How did I lost to get my opinion on this?
it's not fair :(
Anyhow, feel free to OC agian with me when people is around ;)

OKAY! That is the best plan ever! If that won't convince 'em :P

I have no idea, I'm still closeted...

They can go screw themselves. Who cares what u are, jus as long as you're yourself. I still don't know what I am.. I jus preclaim bi for now. I guess I'll see what I am when I ever get with another girl.. T_T lol But don't let them get to ya, dear. Ignore they're asses and satisfy ur own. ^_~

They can go screw themselves. Who cares what u are, jus as long as you're yourself. I still don't know what I am.. I jus preclaim bi for now. I guess I'll see what I am when I ever get with another girl.. T_T lol But don't let them get to ya, dear. Ignore they're asses and satisfy ur own. ^_~

heh.. opps.. my computer's going wacko again..

I'LL TAKE THE RAPISTS FOR 200

"This guy would love to rape a fatty, but he's just too damn nice deep down."

Wow, I read this way too late!

I came out recently, and totally relate to Beaver. I come across as 'very straight' and people don't believe me when I take a leap of faith in them and come out. Do I care that they know or care about me? Not really, but I want to be taken seriously when I share something like that about myself.

PS, try being in the military AND from a catholic family yay!

Ah, awesome, exactly my feelings man :]

I got you matched on the catholic family thing. It seems Catholics produce a lot of gay furry types. WHAT A MYSTERY?