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A comment on art thievery
12 years ago
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A post I reblogged and added to on tumblr yesterday that I thought I'd share here too.
whitetail-music asked:
What's with furries that seems to make them as a fandom so hardheaded about art ownership and respecting artists - like I've never seen so many people try to hound artists into putting hard work into something they don't even want to draw specifically fr FREE like it takes years of practice to get decent and you just wanna undermine that like your shitlord ass who won't even try is entitled to their art?
manabananafox answered:
I have no idea :/
It’s one thing to want to have a picture that represents you and yea, not everyone can draw, but it’s like they don’t understand that these characters represent them- and using them takes away that person’s ID. For furries, it’s like their fursona is like a photograph of them. And someone taking your photograph and posting it on their personal twitter, facebook, whatever makes their followers think that is who that username is! If that makes sense.
Well, you know, how dare artists be so “selfish” and tell people not to take their fursona’s and art without permission. We are such terrible people.
Oh our skill, imagination, and time mean nothing to these people. Because fuck us they want to roleplay and need something visual to go off of!
They are lazy, they can look for people who draw art for free or join in art raffles. Or pay for a commission but no. Easier to google and take.
This goes past the artists too, this goes for people who commission, get gifts, and come up with the idea of their fursona. Because fuck them too. :/
I think you stated the core of the issue in the second line and didnt even realize it Mana. “It’s like their fursona is a photograph of them.” That sentence right there encapsulates the whole issue.
A persons fursona is called that and not just a character because the level to which some furries identify with their characters, to the point of a movie cliche “look in the mirror and see my character staring back at me” thing. And to furries who don’t have that experience, they simply can’t understand that concept unless it’s outlined VERY specifically and clearly that the persons character IS essentially them in their eyes, and I mean explained to them along the lines of “How’d you like it if I took a picture of you from facebook, and posted it up on a sex site for myself because you’re more attractive than me or take a better picture than me and that’s how I want to look.”
It’s not that they don’t have an appreciation for artists skills or abilities, in fact if I ever had my art stolen I’d be a bit flattered to be honest as much as I’d be pissed XD, because the fact they liked your art enough to steal it means it was good enough to be stolen. But rather that they don’t understand how much that art MEANS to the artist. They think an artist looks at their drawings the same sort of way they would look at something like their gamerscore or their pokemon collection, or their home projects they made as their hobby. As merely “a thing I created and now I’m on to the next thing, this one is now done and in the past”. And I’mby no means defending them, but this is the reason I think they do it, because of a fundamental misunderstanding of what fursonas mean to their creators and what the art means to the artist, not because they’re selfish little assholes who want to fuck over an artist at every turn (tho those people do exist too…)
whitetail-music asked:
What's with furries that seems to make them as a fandom so hardheaded about art ownership and respecting artists - like I've never seen so many people try to hound artists into putting hard work into something they don't even want to draw specifically fr FREE like it takes years of practice to get decent and you just wanna undermine that like your shitlord ass who won't even try is entitled to their art?
manabananafox answered:
I have no idea :/
It’s one thing to want to have a picture that represents you and yea, not everyone can draw, but it’s like they don’t understand that these characters represent them- and using them takes away that person’s ID. For furries, it’s like their fursona is like a photograph of them. And someone taking your photograph and posting it on their personal twitter, facebook, whatever makes their followers think that is who that username is! If that makes sense.
Well, you know, how dare artists be so “selfish” and tell people not to take their fursona’s and art without permission. We are such terrible people.
Oh our skill, imagination, and time mean nothing to these people. Because fuck us they want to roleplay and need something visual to go off of!
They are lazy, they can look for people who draw art for free or join in art raffles. Or pay for a commission but no. Easier to google and take.
This goes past the artists too, this goes for people who commission, get gifts, and come up with the idea of their fursona. Because fuck them too. :/
I think you stated the core of the issue in the second line and didnt even realize it Mana. “It’s like their fursona is a photograph of them.” That sentence right there encapsulates the whole issue.
A persons fursona is called that and not just a character because the level to which some furries identify with their characters, to the point of a movie cliche “look in the mirror and see my character staring back at me” thing. And to furries who don’t have that experience, they simply can’t understand that concept unless it’s outlined VERY specifically and clearly that the persons character IS essentially them in their eyes, and I mean explained to them along the lines of “How’d you like it if I took a picture of you from facebook, and posted it up on a sex site for myself because you’re more attractive than me or take a better picture than me and that’s how I want to look.”
It’s not that they don’t have an appreciation for artists skills or abilities, in fact if I ever had my art stolen I’d be a bit flattered to be honest as much as I’d be pissed XD, because the fact they liked your art enough to steal it means it was good enough to be stolen. But rather that they don’t understand how much that art MEANS to the artist. They think an artist looks at their drawings the same sort of way they would look at something like their gamerscore or their pokemon collection, or their home projects they made as their hobby. As merely “a thing I created and now I’m on to the next thing, this one is now done and in the past”. And I’mby no means defending them, but this is the reason I think they do it, because of a fundamental misunderstanding of what fursonas mean to their creators and what the art means to the artist, not because they’re selfish little assholes who want to fuck over an artist at every turn (tho those people do exist too…)
Over the period of 2-3 years I turned Nanaki from a anthro Charmeleon into a Anthro Charizard. I even once tried to make a dragon form. So i could have something to fall back on should i ever tire of the zardsona. I found that never would happen. Nanaki is as put a photograph of myself. He has my mental traits, slightly....altered physical traits. But overall he and I are basically one and the same. I feel sad when i find out people try to take peoples art. Its sorta like the biggest fuck you to a artist. "Fuck you and your passion. I'm gonna use this and get popular! HAHAHAHHAAH!" When i see that shit happens. It infuriates me to no end.even if the art ist commissioned, requested, gifted. One should never steal art.