Don't forms usually ask for sex and not gender?

tbh sex is a terrible way to go about it anyhow because of intersex people

The sex is what the police and healthcare are interested in, not gender.

healthcare is when it matters, which is why if people are getting any care relating to their sex they should talk to their doctors, that DOES NOT MEAN that anyone else has to know.
i dont see why it should matter with the police?

> healthcare is when it matters, which is why if people are getting any care relating to their sex they should talk to their doctors, that DOES NOT MEAN that anyone else has to know.

Doctors aren't the only people that play into healthcare. If people don't need to know, they don't need to see your identity information at all. If they do, then it's likely for identification purposes that may be necessary for the police or in a worse case circumstance, healthcare.

> i dont see why it should matter with the police?

Because police need to be aware of medical situations and biological identity checks.

Well honestly only people dealing with your genitalia should have a right to know?? You can use other things for identity.

> Well honestly only people dealing with your genitalia should have a right to know??

Sure, potentially the police and healthcare could be dealing with it and by extension, anyone who would need to provide that information to them because they could be involved in the situation too.

> You can use other things for identity.

One of the most reliable markers out there is the sex of an individual. Reducing the amount of reliable genuine identifying information makes it harder for law enforcement and healthcare to operate effectively.

That said, I cannot really think of any government papers that don't request identifying information like sex unless it is additionally kept for police and medical purposes to go through later (such as someone's driving license).

Perhaps a solution would be to provide two fields, one called 'sex' and another called 'gender'. That way people can make it clear what they identify with and the police/healthcare people get what they need.

yeah what Eri said; either way though, to some trans people being listed on formal documents by their birth sex and not their preferred identity can cause them a lot of stress, anxiety and dysphoria. so being listed by identity rather than biological sex may be preferred. :o

As a non-CIS person; I think those people should seek out treatment so they are comfortable with their gender identity, regardless of what some from or identity card says.