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To everyone who have noticed the drama lately;
11 years ago
Hello, this is a Pum speaking!
So, apparently this whole mess on tumblr is still going on...
We have done what I can about this matter.
We have removed the comments in question. (at least those we found, if you find some more - note me or Argos a link to them, and I'll happily remove them)
I have edited the title and description of the dragon and princess-submission.
I have removed the "rape face"-tag from the 'Playdate?' image i colored.
Argos have removed the posts he found on the norwegian furry forum.
I have publically, on this page, apologized to whoever might read my journals, and if you got offended by anything Vargos and myself have posted - we are both sorry to hear it.
Feel free to send us a note if you want a more personal apology, we never intended to hurt anyone.
The posts that offended weren't even meant to be seen that way, and was an unfortunate brainfart on our end. But they are gone now, and won't ever come back.
What is done is done, and I can't undo it.
TO make it very clear, we do not support or condone rape, we do not have a "rape fetish", we do not think rape is an okay crime to perform, in any way. And we certainly havent sicced some private army to make rape threats in our stead. It's a terrible thing to do, that appals the both of us, but more than that it is also an awful rumor to spread about someone. Why people are so hungry to gulp down any theories that we are so malicious and disrespectful, baffles me.
If any of you have GOTTEN rape threats from people taking our side in this mess, i am terribly sorry. It is very unfortunate that they have taken to such means of defending us, and while we are grateful for their support, we definately urge them to keep things civil and to-the point.
If there is anything else Argos and I can do, please let us know, TALK to us.
It is very hard for us to come to you and trying to solve things, when we dont even know who to go to.
Again, on behalf of myself and Vargos, I will say that we are sincerely sorry for any offence we have caused you.
However, all this being said, I think actually /PHOTOSHOPPING/ me into pictures/screen shots from facebook, just to try getting at us is a bit... desperate? pathetic?
Long story short, someone made me aware that a screenshot of a Facebook status was going around, showing me as completely unrepentant in this whole matter;
Here's a screenshot to the FurryScumbags' post im talking about.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p1a67p8se.....ags%20post.png
Wow, considering the whole apologizing thing, that seems rather insensitive to say, dont you think?
Especially since we have invited anyone offended to come and talk to us so we can bury the hatchet. But that's exactly why this is rather easy to debunk.
Here's a link, AND a video to the ACTUAL POST over on FB to disprove me ever saying that.
- https://www.dropbox.com/s/w5jz1g7pg.....0FB%20post.png <-- screenshot
- https://www.dropbox.com/s/ufezypz4j.....422_100514.mp4 <-- video where I actually locate the status, showing it is someone entirely different.
All it would have taken, is ONE TINY check for credibility. But apparently, as long as it gets our name in the shit, it's a-okay to toss up for everyone to see.
I am terribly sorry for the names in the picture and video, but posting a picture to disprove something, and the names are blackened out, it's... no use, really.
Im pretty much done with this whole thing now, I have said what i wanted to say.
If you are ACTUALLY interested in sorting things out or getting a more personal apology, just note me or VArgos and we will be happy to do so. The sooner, the better.
But as long as you insist on the two of us being absolutely unreasonable, i don't think there is anything we can do. I'll wish you a good day regardless, and hope that you'll change your mind eventually. Nobody gains from old grudges.
I really just wanted to disprove these claims, but hope you all had a LOVELY easter!
Be good everybody! <3
-Pum
So, apparently this whole mess on tumblr is still going on...
We have done what I can about this matter.
We have removed the comments in question. (at least those we found, if you find some more - note me or Argos a link to them, and I'll happily remove them)
I have edited the title and description of the dragon and princess-submission.
I have removed the "rape face"-tag from the 'Playdate?' image i colored.
Argos have removed the posts he found on the norwegian furry forum.
I have publically, on this page, apologized to whoever might read my journals, and if you got offended by anything Vargos and myself have posted - we are both sorry to hear it.
Feel free to send us a note if you want a more personal apology, we never intended to hurt anyone.
The posts that offended weren't even meant to be seen that way, and was an unfortunate brainfart on our end. But they are gone now, and won't ever come back.
What is done is done, and I can't undo it.
TO make it very clear, we do not support or condone rape, we do not have a "rape fetish", we do not think rape is an okay crime to perform, in any way. And we certainly havent sicced some private army to make rape threats in our stead. It's a terrible thing to do, that appals the both of us, but more than that it is also an awful rumor to spread about someone. Why people are so hungry to gulp down any theories that we are so malicious and disrespectful, baffles me.
If any of you have GOTTEN rape threats from people taking our side in this mess, i am terribly sorry. It is very unfortunate that they have taken to such means of defending us, and while we are grateful for their support, we definately urge them to keep things civil and to-the point.
If there is anything else Argos and I can do, please let us know, TALK to us.
It is very hard for us to come to you and trying to solve things, when we dont even know who to go to.
Again, on behalf of myself and Vargos, I will say that we are sincerely sorry for any offence we have caused you.
However, all this being said, I think actually /PHOTOSHOPPING/ me into pictures/screen shots from facebook, just to try getting at us is a bit... desperate? pathetic?
Long story short, someone made me aware that a screenshot of a Facebook status was going around, showing me as completely unrepentant in this whole matter;
Here's a screenshot to the FurryScumbags' post im talking about.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p1a67p8se.....ags%20post.png
Wow, considering the whole apologizing thing, that seems rather insensitive to say, dont you think?
Especially since we have invited anyone offended to come and talk to us so we can bury the hatchet. But that's exactly why this is rather easy to debunk.
Here's a link, AND a video to the ACTUAL POST over on FB to disprove me ever saying that.
- https://www.dropbox.com/s/w5jz1g7pg.....0FB%20post.png <-- screenshot
- https://www.dropbox.com/s/ufezypz4j.....422_100514.mp4 <-- video where I actually locate the status, showing it is someone entirely different.
All it would have taken, is ONE TINY check for credibility. But apparently, as long as it gets our name in the shit, it's a-okay to toss up for everyone to see.
I am terribly sorry for the names in the picture and video, but posting a picture to disprove something, and the names are blackened out, it's... no use, really.
Im pretty much done with this whole thing now, I have said what i wanted to say.
If you are ACTUALLY interested in sorting things out or getting a more personal apology, just note me or VArgos and we will be happy to do so. The sooner, the better.
But as long as you insist on the two of us being absolutely unreasonable, i don't think there is anything we can do. I'll wish you a good day regardless, and hope that you'll change your mind eventually. Nobody gains from old grudges.
I really just wanted to disprove these claims, but hope you all had a LOVELY easter!
Be good everybody! <3
-Pum
although I have no idea what this is actually about other then what is written in your journal here as I don't go on tumblr at all but it sounds like a horrible mess
I hope whatever happens that people are off your back about it
I hope you and vargos have a good day
It's so sad that people don't use their brains, think about a world where people would use them.. a wonderful Utopia right?
But anyway, I hope that those scumbags will stop their madness.
Hopefully they will come to their senses and realize what damage they are actually doing.
Well anyway I hope this mess will get sorted out and that people will take this to their mind and actually think for once instead
of following things blindly.
I wish you and Argos a good day <3
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thank you so very much for taking the time to reply to me! it means so much
I am happy I could help! c:
Im all for friendly banter and such, but damn!
I am also sorry to hear about your lengthy harassment ordeal, and i do hope we did not offer too much offense with our earlier comments!
I can not apologize on other people's behalf, but it is very saddening and horrible to hear this have happened to you.
Hugs
I can see why some people would find it uncomfortable though, and as such we have removed the mentions of it.
Just wanted to clarify, in case someone tried pulling that out of context.
And deep down, I doubt they are even offended. The internet....such a weird place. x_x
For example, the side that I'm sure was discussed here, was the non-fetishists' answer to rape, as in forcibly carrying out your sexual desires on an unwilling/unknowing victim.
This is by no means acceptable, nor is it permitted(Obviously). The act of taking away a person(REGARDLESS OF GENDER I MIGHT ADD!!!)'s ability to say no to sexual activity with another person, is the fundamental meaning behind robbing someone of their human rights. The concept of non-fetish rape is by all comprehensive accounts, completely and utterly revolting, and it is one of the universal, global laws of society which I am 'thankful' exists.
The other side of the coin would be the fetishist's answer to rape, as in forcibly carrying out your sexual desires on a willing/knowing victim, who pretends to be unwilling/unknowing(Aka Erotic Role Play)
This is by all means acceptable, as well as permitted, since no manner of crime is committed. Just because it looks like rape, doesn't mean it is(Just cause it looks like a murderer in a movie kills a person, doesn't mean they actually did it....Hopefully.). It is a perfectly common fetish to have, to have your own personal control over a situation be stripped away by somebody else, who pretty much leaves you utterly helpless to fight against them, and use you for their own twisted pleasures...Masochism, BDSM etc. It is all a very common fetish that in some form or another is even very easily portrayed in 'vanilla sex' (A simple gesture like pulling the 'takers' hair is a sign of dominance, and lack of control for the one getting their hair pulled)
In these terms, I personally find fetishes like Vore, Scat, Death, Necrophilia, and cannibalism(Kinda vore, I know), 'WAY' more unsettling, and taboo, than rape. But that's just me...
Just remember that actual, real rape is not okay doe
I am, personally, sexually dominant and can be kind of rough. Hardly a shocker, considering some of the images i take part in i suppose. But the very idea of committing an act of rape makes me cringe. I can't imagine what makes a rapist tick, really. But I also know that a surprisingly high amount of sexually submissive people enjoy the sensation of helplessness, of being completely taken away by someone and being at their mercy. I think that is where the murky grey-area here lies, and that is what i think sparks a lot of this whole debate. Where the line goes between willing submission and actual assault.
I can't blame people for their fetishes, whatever they may be. After all, who am I to judge them, taking an interest in half-human hybrids banging eachother.
But i DO agree that i personally find someone wanting to be ripped apart in a bloody massacre/orgy a bit more eccentric than someone wanting to be completely submissive and feigning reluctance.
That being said, no means no, and i think it is very important to distinguish between premeditated and agreed upon roleplay, and the actual, heinous crime.
Not only so that the people with the fetish avoids unrughtful abuse and shaming, but also, and this is important, to retain the seriousness of an actual act of rape.
Seem's drama is found in anything these days by people who want to see it -.-
I cant believe people go to this length to destroy someone else.
Its really sad.
The fact people take stuff out of context and just twist it is awful.
I hope stuff gets better for you, really.
Many of these sites or tumblr blogs that claim to be exposing real douchebags and actual bad people, seem to either be full of shit, or just far to quick on the trigger in drawing conclusions about someone.
What are they asking now? You two beeing whiped in public?
This is getting really ridiculous...
Its really true when they cant find drama they or their followers will create some sort of "drama" to report "drama".
As Teckly said, This is getting ridiculous.
Glad you're sorting this out at least
You guys should be able to post and say whatever you like. It's what the internet's for. But they've no right to just take what you guys had said and twist it all so out of proportion, regardless of wether or not they were offended. This could have been handled millions of times better than it was. And this is just incredibly sad.
Anyway, glad you guys are back, Pumzie, Vargos. Glad to hear you had a good time. Welcome home!
sorry you had to deal with this, it's never fun.
Tumblr has a ONE STRIKE YOU'RE OUT system that is totally screwed up and they believe apologies don't matter, etc. Basically, these people don't live in the real world, only in their pretend one, and it's pretty dumb.
So they see that SO AND SO did SOMETHING BAD on TUMBLR and it's suddenly the gospel truth. They don't even take time to check if it's REAL or not.
I wish the original poster can be found (Since it wasn't any of the staff from FurryScumbags who made this), and someone can talk to him/her to ask why in the first place would you do such thing. Just to get people in trouble?
Screencaps is, most of the time, the only thing we have to show something. It's the only proof you have on the internet.
So when someone photoshops something, just to get other people in trouble, and with really ill intentions, they are really not helping at all.
Specially to people that try to show evidence and so on of something that IS REALLY HAPPENING.
I don't understand the awful intentions you must have to try to slander someone, but just...Why? For what?
Anyways, I'm glad you actually made this journal. I think it was needed so people can finally close that thing that happened, and I'm glad it was written. Hope you and Vargos are ok. :)
im sorry to hear you had so much shit from them and who ever made it, good luck :c
If you need to set up a tumblr page to encourage witchhunts against people for saying mean things, to make you feel good about yourself, maybe everyone else isn't the problem.