Jealousy mainly.

Which is a laugh because when you live almost commission to commission...theres really nothing to be jealous about haha.

Bingo.

^ this. People think I must be rolling in it. I make well below minimum wage.

bc people are Dumb and Mean ?? and how Dare anyone else be more successful than THEY.

Pretty muchhhh *le sigh*

Because people on the whole tend to be selfish, and seeing someone being successful makes them feel jealous. Especially when someone opens an idea method that gets them money in a way they cannot do.

That and some people see YCH as a cheap cop-out to make a large profit for a smaller bit of work. Problem is it's flawed thinking.

I could go more, but I think that's a good summary at the moment *Hugs the Chu-Chu~*

I honestly don't see the problem with YCH. I think it's a great choice for people who aren't quite sure what they want but if they see a pose that catches their eye it's pretty darn useful. It really depends on the type of commissioner and like god forbid people try to make things easier for themselves.

u.u siiigh *hugsback*

asdfasfasdsaf THIS

Yus yus u.u

people i guess feel entitled to free things and think art is so easy and not worth the paw i suppose?? idk people are dumb

pAY*** omg y is not even close to w how did that happen

http://24.media.tumblr.com/69c79d0e.....74s4o1_500.jpg

I think you'll appreciate that silly meme.

But honestly, it's dumb for people to say that. Bet they're the types to complain about FREE art too.

a mixture of jealousy and a desire to just moan about something

I raised prices on a tuna sandwich 10c. A woman last week called me a greedy asshole. Its the nature of business

The only reason I consider someone that is if they just generally have crappy business practice about it. A couple examples without directly pointing at people:

Folks that post YCH/other auctions, but then repost their advert for it every two hours*.
- I don't have a problem with adoptables, auctions, or YCHs, but I don't need my inbox flooded with 10+ reminders for the Same auction/sale.


Folks that post publicly calling for commissions/influx of money but then ignore any inquiries for custom commission work.
- If you** want money that badly and consider yourself a fursuit maker/artist/etc., it behooves one to at least respond to my note so I don't feel insignificant.


Folks that Spend money for a convention, not selling at that convention.. instead Buying a lot of stuff to resell, and then crying they have no money.
- Again, if one is hard pressed for cash for RENT AND UTILITIES, don't spend on a convention.. and certainly don't buy a crapton of the merchandise in hopes of reselling immediately.

Folks that have a queue 15* people long that have been on there for months, and yet they take new commissions for similar/equal product.
- I understand you** may be in need, but it looks bad to neglect previous comissioners to pump out new art. If you can't keep up with your current queue, something definitely needs reassessed. Either charge more, or dedicate more time each day to completing previous commissions.




*An approximation of time.
**Used in a figurative sense, and not meant as a direct attack in any way, I promise!

(I actually like YCHs and adoptables because YCHs let you purchase a commission from the artist where you are certain to be content with the posing/theme of the image as you saw it beforehand. Adoptables are good premade because again.. someone could make a custom design and the commissioner not like aspects of it, requiring edits and costing the artist much more time.)

It's an odd thing in psychology. Artists, in any sense of the word, aren't really seen as "workers", even though they -are- working. So when people see the artist trying to sell their craft or endorse something (even if they genuinely like the product and want to endorse it not just for the money), they're viewed as money grabbers.

Like, I've seen some Youtubers advertise their shirts and stuff, and half the comments section is filled with, "Well, looks like they've finally sold out". People just need to stop sometimes.

I had a few people that watch me stated art should be free..

How dare we try to do drawings all day, we should work at a job we are unhappy with because that what people feel we should do.

People cry over the stupidest things. The ych is a brilliant way to make money purely because people will bid what they feel the spot is worth it. I seen people unwatched artist cause they are sick of the YCH stuff. I mean heaven forbid if people don't spend their money on what they feel is fit.

I TOTALLY agree with you on that, yeah.

Well its a mixture of what people have already said, BUt its also a factor of our culture. People are ripped off on a daily basis, and so we've become weary of price increases for things we don't deem "important". Food is important, medical bills are important. A cute picture...not important. But neither are high heels but people still buy them in bulk right? People have a skewed view of what is important, so i wouldn't put much thought into it. After all, I think video games are important...but in reality they aren't.

Scams have made people suspicious. WHy do artists need to increase their earning amount? probably for a good sound reason, like a tax increase or a new addition to the family meaning another mouth to feed. Does everyone see it that way? No, they tend to think "Oh they've done something stupid like gambled and gone into debt". People would do the same if they didn't know you personally and you'd asked for a raise at a shop.

In some cases its the artist fault as well. You heard of HardBlush? They've offered new packages where 90% of the content is something that's already been released. This isn't actually a bad thing because it allows new users to get ahold of image sets that aren't available anymore, a second chance if you will, but the site tends to neglect the old customers and doesn't offer a cheaper versions with just the new stuff. That right there is the artists fault, for not taking all their customers into consideration. Yes artists are like anyone else in any working industry, but when a company undervalues you, then you complain but many artists never see the original complaint until its spiraled out of control and several rumours have been started because of it. The sad part is that this trouble is easily avoided by remembering that you have new customers popping up all the time and old loyal ones, keep both in mind or you'll anger everyone. This is expected of everyone in every other industry, art is no exception.That is literally the only thing that artists do wrong, but its no surprize because most of you haven't worked with a large company and had to deal with customer complaints, this is easily remedied by keeping in mind that we are your customers in the same way we are Netflix's customers, treat us with the same respect you expect from them and you're guaranteed the moral high ground.

Art comes in two forms to the customer, a quick pic or a personal one. With a personal one the customer is more willing to pay a higher price because it matters to them. If I could afford it I'd pay 1 Mil for an artist to get my OC just right, but I've also got quirky ideas that if I can get for free...I'll get them for free. The best way to tackle this mind set is, education. I think I know a good way to do this...draw one picture to your highest standard, and record everything. Leave it recording for everything, including bathroom breaks and hours spent sleeping...and upload the video, and tell people this is how long it takes you to draw one great picture. They can't ignore it if when they start complaining about how long its taking, you send them a recording of how long it takes you, with things like eating and drinking getting in the way...video footage isn't something they can deny very easily. And when I say record I mean all we see is your computer screen, on and what is happening on it, you could add large words like "Sleeping" to clarify why the art isn't being made. And when I say record I mean that the video isn't sped up, if you sleep for 9 hours it records the screen being inactive for 9 straight hours. this isn't just a great way to stick it to every moron that thinks there's a magic"Make Art" button on your computer, but its educational in how modern artists live. Its also highly insightful as to how you as an artist live. Sure it'll take awhile but if it teaches morons a lesson I'd say its worth a try.

There's also one way in which artists shoot their skills down...the term "Anyone can be an artist". While this statement is true, it also means that people can ask the question...if anyone can, why the heck am I paying you? To this...I have no answer. I doubt anyone does, as the only solution is to actually stop the entire progress of the arts to s standstill.

Just my little view on things.

Add on to those complainers in your journal with the people who go oh, you draw art for a living? It must be nice being able to do what you love all day for money. I see you're always talkng about commissions, so you must be well-off."

People who work "normal jobs" seem to have a fantasy-mindset about doing a hobby for a living. That it's l sunshine and rainbows. Not hoping and praying that you get enough commissioners to pay your electic bills so you can keep producing art.

I had someone tell me once that they would be "ripped off" because their character was really detailed and complex and would take more than 1 hour to draw.
Um, no. It's called "being fairly compensated for your time". If thinking you're getting ripped off is higher up in your mind than knowing you're helping an artist survive another month of bills, maybe buying artwork isn't for you?

The REAL reason why someone feeds you that line is because they want free art from you, plain and simple. And they hope that line will guilt you into hanging it over.

Block, ban, move on. Best thing you can do.

Oh yeah it's not me who received it--because I woulda done that--this journal was mostly sparked from seeing some other douchebag on a fellow artist's journal. it burns me up auugh

I think I know what brought this up. I saw that just now and it infuriated me. -___-
Just because he can't afford to buy fap material, doesn't give him the right to talk down to artists like that. This is why I have a huge hate for people with blank accounts because most of them are rude like that.

A lot of the other comments about summed it up *sigh*
If you actually do the math, artists don't make much money at all, which is why sometimes they have to ask or beg for orders.

was this from the comment form that anonymous user on Tato's?

these people are nothing more than trolling assholes. -_-;

this kind reminds me you don't wanna see that Dr. Phil episode... omg that was terrible. -_-;

yeahhh basically.

was it really that awful? I knew it would be but fffffff

I didn't watch it but I remember the tweets about the shit he said about us.

honestly he's a bigger douche than John Edward.

I did watch it and it actually wasn't bad. Dr Phil didn't care that she wore a fursuit or drew artwork. He cared that she wanted to keep doing that stuff when she did not have a job that could support her lifestyle. He felt it was unfair to have her mother paying her rent, utilities, etc. and was equally frustrated she would ask/expect her friends to continue that for her when she moved in with them.

The only people he knocked on were Boomer the Dog because.... Well... Boomer. And the lady that tried BREASTFEEDING RABBITS. And asked her daughter to help her indulge in her bizarre behaviors.

The dr Phil episode really wasn't bad. If taken out of context or misperceived, it could be taken as a mean statement. What he said was that if someone wants to draw animals for a living, fine. If it's not supporting your lifestyle, then maybe it's time that hobby step back Into being just a hobby and getting a real job. Which I get. I don't think he meant all artists should quit.. Just if you're bawling about perpetually not having money, it's possibly not the right job for a person.


Please forgive my autocorrect.

I think my favorite was someone who was complaining about the concept of a closed species - I told them that some people needed to use them to get money, and his/her response was "typical American; only thinking of money."

Like???? Not only American artists draw for money????????

Oh my god what the heck. YEAH last I checked most artists in other countries are trying to make money too lmfao

it's because these people see you making a profit and see you succeeding in what you do and get jealous because they may be haveing a hard time saleing there work and they just wanna be emo and complain about there lifes mostly its because they think the person is a popular artist and there jealous and to tell you the honest truth its hard to start a art based business and i wish i could have enough courage to sale my work and start my own art based business but its hard out there and thats why people are flipping out

It's because people tend to assume that everybody has an easier time than they do. For example, someone might see you get over 50,000 page views and have an ability to charge $100 for a full-colored digital drawing. People tend to assume that these artists don't have any hardships. People who complain though tend to assume that they have a monopoly of hardships. For example, many people tend to assume that furries who can't fly to Anthrocon are the minority. All in all, people just have an egocentric bias.

welcome to the wonderful world of " I can't pay you but it will be really good exposure" I love that one

People like that have ZERO concept of a starving artist

I don't know why some people want artists to starve anyway. Do they chastise Disney animators for accepting payment too? Forget animation studios, what about cigarette companies and oil tycoons? So, what, it's wrong for artists to make money, but it's okay for big businesses to exploit people and actively destroy the planet as long as they make money doing it. Where is your outrage then?

Us musicians get the same crap. It's the usual hipster bullshit where "oh, since you're mainstream we don't like you anymore because all you care about is money now." Shit, what happened to just making a living while doing what you love, and listening to / following someone because you really enjoy their work. People who enjoy, say, being electricians don't get this kind of crap, nor do scientists, so why should artists?

Honestly sounds like a bunch of butthurt douchebags who just want free art. There's a surefire way to get free art: make your own.