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That's steam (and gaben) for ya.

I just lost 10 euros for nothing :c Someone said it might take up to 3-4 days to get my money back, by that time Steam Summer Sales will have finished already... So it's useless

what were you planning on buying?

Portal 2 and 1, Garry's Mod and another game under 4.27 euros

what's your steam? I've got some loose change, ill gift them

Mhmm, I'll send you my steam account in a note, thank you.

But Valve doesn't even set the prices. The developers do. .-. Plus the platform gets tons of sales so I don't see how It's valve's fault for some games being expensive. .-.

Also Valve doesn't really make much money off of trading cards. The players do. That's why there is a community market.

Valve has to earn money in some way. They're the 4th most bandwidth consuming company. Takes lots o' money to keep that service running.

I understand your anger on loosing your money. I wouldn't be too happy either, but It's not like Valve purposely did that otherwise Steam would be dead.

Doing transactions like they do can go wrong in several ways depending on many variables out of Steam's control.

I don't know, it just seems like you lost your cool and started blaming Steam for things that's not really true or out of It's control.

Hmm, did you know that they make some money too when users complete transactions with these trading cards ? This means more money for them because everyone wants those cards no matter what the price is, plus, they took 10 euros from my PaySafe card, but they didn't place them in my steam wallet, and now I'm asking myself 'How is that even possible ?!' So, I think I have all the reasons to be angry .-.

Them "taking your money" is nothing but an error. Steam doesn't purposely do that because I have added hundreds of dollars onto my Steam account and got it successfully.

Like I said they have to earn money some way. They're the 4th most bandwidth consuming company. Bandwidth isn't cheap these days. Plus they have to pay to keep services running, developers, funds for their projects, food, basic bills etc.

Running a company isn't cheap at all. And Valve is being a really good company by offering tons of services like Steam for no charge.

Taxes on trading cards is necessary. The tax system helps prevent abuse because the market is simulating an economy. And Valve doesn't even earn much per sale because each trading card sales for extremely cheap.

I don't think the tax system is a reason to be angry because It's perfectly reasonable if you know about how to run an economy.

I can only understand your anger with not receiving your money. This error of not your receiving your money is actually quite rare and doesn't happen too often. Like I said, even some things are out of Valve's control sometimes. If you keep just contacting Steam support I'm sure they will help you based on reports of other people on the forums loosing their money and eventually getting it back.

I did contact Steam Support, no response so far, it's been more than a day, I know it might take up to 3-4 days, returning to the subject, how can you explain it's instability ? Many times I've seen my Steam crash for no reason, offers have a lot of bugs too, I tried sending a Summer Sale Card to a friend for free and I received an error every time I tried (tried like 10 times) then my friend wanted to check if he had the card and apparently he received it even though it gave me an error... That's strange, About the prices, you can find the same game on Kinguin or G2A at half the price that it's listed on Steam, kinda weird, isn't it ? All those 60 euros games at 30. And I was curious to compare prices on Steam with prices on Origin, I was a little surprised to see how prices on Origin were a little cheaper than on Steam, and not only cheaper for EA specific games .-. Now I'm not saying that Origin is better or anything, I still consider it a Steam rip-off, but I'd do like to say that my arguments stay solid.

Instability? Steam has been perfectly stable for me. I've literally had no error or crashes in the 5 or so years I've used Steam.

Like I said, It's not Steam's fault for the price of the games. Many games that are multiplatform that get released on Steam retail for that price. Valve lets the developer set the price so your argument doesn't stay solid in that part. Origin can't be compared because Origin contains games exclusively from EA unlike Steam which allows professional and indie developers alike to get their game on a popular platform. Most games that are on Origin and Steam retail for the same price anyway unless there's a sale. Also, Steam has far more sales than the majority of platforms around. Many games you can get cheaper

Other platforms like Kinguin can't be compared because they don't actually hold and store the games like Steam does. They simply receive keys for the game and sell it at a cheaper price. Not the game itself. They use different methods for earning money that simply can't be compared to Steam.

Don't put blame on Steam for something far out of their control. Steam offers so much for the users and developers alike that it makes it a great platform for them both. That's why Steam has 26K+ titles and is still growing to this day.

I understand you're having errors and such with Steam, but that is not the normal case with Steam. There is most likely some kind of other variable involved with your issues if I haven't had a single problem in over 4-5 years on Steam.

Meh, I still think it has some bugs, me and some of my friends know it, might be also because we live in an eastern European country, usually these countries are left aside when it comes to pretty much everything..