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11 years ago
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EDIT: PLEASE READ
I will leave this journal up for reference purposes, but I ask that NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BE MADE AT THIS POINT ON THIS JOURNAL. If you have a comment, question or concern you are, by all means, free to post on the A_B! (http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/796376.html#comments) But please! NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
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EDIT: SITUATION TO UPDATE. As stated in the A_B!
I have an important update concerning the shipping: My mother has told me we will be able to go on Wednesday. I asked her to write a note to prove that I had asked, and I asked her to sign it. I also included an example of my handwriting to show that my mother's note was not forged: http://i.imgur.com/WXzCBkJ.jpg (her note) *EDIT EDIT EDIT* I had to delete the original 'comparison' because it had the OP's address on it. I will find another suitable example**
If I had a working vehicle, I would do it myself. (I can provide pictures of the engine light if necessary. It's no trouble.)
But this is an update on the shipping situation. Included is a signed note by my mother stating that the items will be shipped on Wednesday. There is nothing I can do since she is my only ride until my car is repaired.
EDIT
*ADDITIONAL EXAMPLE OF HANDWRITING COMPARISON: http://i.imgur.com/uhpyUjQ.jpg
I understand her being upset about the tail. I do not blame her nor do I try to justify the wait time. The issue is the miscommunication on whether or not she thought that this was a trade. Arguments saying "Just ship the box!" and "It took 17 months!" have already been answered. Please read the entirety of the article!! If you read all parts of the story, you would see hat I already discussed that the box will be shipped with both the owner of A_B and a moderator. The mods and I discussed the other aspects and came to a mature agreement.
Also, if you have something to say, SAY IT TO ME DIRECTLY, PLEASE. DO NOT COMMENT ON OTHER PEOPLE'S RESPONSES FOR IT DOES NOT INVOLVE THEM. Please keep all comments directed to me if you have a response!
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I will leave this journal up for reference purposes, but I ask that NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BE MADE AT THIS POINT ON THIS JOURNAL. If you have a comment, question or concern you are, by all means, free to post on the A_B! (http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/796376.html#comments) But please! NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
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I am no stranger to A_B because of my past mistakes. I take full responsibility in those posts and am working to make sure I correct each issue...however, the most recent one I do not agree with...and since A_B does not account for "the other side of the story" I feel like I need to make my voice heard. I emailed one of the moderators to explain the situation, but for those wondering about the article I will post it here for reference.
Below is the email I sent to the moderator. Now, this is not an attempt to get the article taken down, but rarely you get to hear what happened on the other end of the spectrum. In this case, I really do feel that the screenshots and information used were constructed in a way to be more harmful than informative.
If you have any sort of comments, please keep them respectful. If you disagree with me then by all means feel free to post about said disagreement, but I ask if you handle it in a mature and calm manner. This Monday this journal will be updated with the tracking for the items mentioned in the original note.
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Hello!
I am not sure who to contact for this, but regarding the recent A_B article..I'd like to place a rebuttal because I believe the article was posted simply because it had my name on it.
The article: http://artists-beware.livejournal.c......html#comments
I've made mistakes in the past that have landed me on the site, that I am not going to fight as it was my fault and I will not disagree when I rightfully belong there for those said mistakes, but this recent article I must say something for I believe the author heavily altered the situation to make it seem as if I was ripping them off.
First of all, let me explain that the only money that changed hands was for the Jail partial purchased, which included the Head, Tail, Feet, hand paws and leg sleeves. (the original note: http://i.imgur.com/QtCV0nw.png) All of which were delivered to OED upon payment for an eye repair before shipping out to the author. She successfully received the box within this post: http://i.imgur.com/xIsrPXo.png
The rest of the parts apparently owed, the tail and the handpaws, were not included in the box for they wouldn't fit. She agreed to this statement and said it was fine. I promised to deliver them at a later date: that's when the buddy box was formed because she also wanted to send me a package.
Her wanting to send me a buddy box in return: http://i.imgur.com/uSDOOl7.png
And so the buddy box was on. I even have a picture of the items I was going to send her, along with a price-sheet of the cost of each item: http://i.imgur.com/YWGp2Pp.jpg
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Price Sheet:
Buddy Box Price inventory (doesn't include the shipping I paid to get these items)
-Rilakkuma limited edition Halloween plushies: $25.75 (x3)
-Rilakkuma & Korilakkuma classics: $11.90 (x2)
-Kirroitori classic palm-sized: $9.55 (x1)
-Large gloomy bear: $40.00 (x1)
-Disney tsum tsum small plushies: $4.95 (x15)
-Rilakkuma memopads: $4.45 (x4)
-Rilakkuma mini memopads (bought set of 4): $6.37 (x1)
-Assorted stickers totalling to $30.00+
-OED Doe tail valued at $60.00
-Bunny&Black bow: $20.00 (x1)
-Rilakkumart coffee pen holder: $18.95 (x1)
-Stationary items inside Rilakkumart coffee pen holder totalling to $30.00+
-Rilakkuma funny face series coin pouch: $13.54 (x2)
-Rilakkuma letter set: $6.37 (x1)
IN ADDITION TO BUT NOT INCLUDED IN THIS SHEET: "Squishies" and mascot type phone charms, hand-made bandanna and other assorted items.
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She wished for me to omit the hand paws, so I did so. So all that was left that was mentioned in the "deal" was the tail, which I was going to send along with the items.
Time passed and her box arrived. She mentioned something about chocolates, but I had no idea what was in the box other than that (I mentioned this because of her argument that I never showed her the contents of the box which is untrue. I showed her over webcam in a Skype call, and she remarked how they were items one could find in a Japanese toy store.)
Now the part I agree to was the time between her box and my box. Perhaps I should have made her pay for her gifts, ship them, then return the money to her at a later date? I don't know if it's just me but I find that defeats the purpose of a care package if the party has to pay for anything in any way.
About the post about me shipping the box with Kahuna, my intentions were to do such but the box to ship Kahuna ended up costing $63.13..and the box for the author, I was quoted for over $80 in shipping the author's alone. I did not have the funds to drop $140 in shipping in the same day, so I shipped Kahuna out and not the author's package. To make up for it, I added additional items to the box in order to apologize for the further wait.
Also, she mentioned that I used an excuse of flooding as a way to get out of sending the box. Well, here's proof that there really was flooding (http://www.chron.com/news/houston-w.....sy-5766569.php).
I am not sure if the author understood what the care packages were all about. What I included in the buyout for Jail but didn't charge additional for was A. Handpaws B. The tail. She didn't want A so in reality I owe her the tail. The Jail plush, the bandanna were all included in the buddy box as extras and were not a part of the original note. While I understand where the miscommunication came from, none of the extra items that were not involved with the original notes were charged; furthermore, additional shipping for the box was not accepted for I was under the impression that we were doing a care package for one another, so I didn't want her to pay for her gift. This was a case of friends sending gifts to one another; I purchased everything with my own money. I kept her updated throughout the whole process, and the incident of me "ignoring" her (http://i.imgur.com/T7cBgaL.png) was that I was out for those days. I did respond to said messages upon returning, but again she has omitted this information.
I am not trying to convince anyone that the author is a bad individual, however she should not have omitted key information. Again, I believe she did not understand the detail with the buddy box..and she did not ask me once if this was a part of the items included as thanks for buying out Jail. Assumptions are often a terrible mistake to partake in; if anyone I should know this all too well.
So, this beware all in all consists of a miscommunication in a buddy box situation. If this was the case, then I could very well submit bewares for friends that have not sent me care packages in return? I wasn't aware that A_B had a category for buddy boxes, and if this is the case then I apologize for this wall of text.
Thank you for your time.
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*EDIT* I see that at the end of the beware post, she said that I said I would take all the time I need? I never said this and the author omits any sort of proof that asserts such. She also states that I said all of the things were gifts...which is true? That's why we were sending boxes to one another...to give gifts!
*EDIT, ADDITIONAL PROOF* I was hospitalized twice yet she claimed these were excuses, here are the pics to prove it: http://i.imgur.com/SS2APMA.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/3iaSHI6.jpg
*EDIT, PROOF THAT SHE IS SAYING THAT I AM "GETTING PEOPLE ON MY SIDE*: http://i.imgur.com/7lOWexk.png
*EDIT: We talked it out, agreed that the boxes were between friends and not a transaction. I am taking responsibility for the box being late, however:
[5:30:01 AM] sugar booger: The issue is this: I did not ask for a box, you offered it IN RETURN for my giving you extras. It was done in the spirit of friendship and in the light that we were just going to send each other things.
[5:30:20 AM] sugar booger: This was not a transaction. This was not "I am going to send you chocolate for your tail."
[5:31:29 AM] sugar booger: That's where my view stands, yours is that I agreed to a trade. I agreed to send items in return for a box.
[5:34:34 AM] # We did it as friends but you never returned a single box. That's my problem. You offered and offered and you make the box look so nice but never sending it doesn't make you a nice person.
EDIT: PLEASE READ
I will leave this journal up for reference purposes, but I ask that NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BE MADE AT THIS POINT ON THIS JOURNAL. If you have a comment, question or concern you are, by all means, free to post on the A_B! (http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/796376.html#comments) But please! NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
---
EDIT: SITUATION TO UPDATE. As stated in the A_B!
I have an important update concerning the shipping: My mother has told me we will be able to go on Wednesday. I asked her to write a note to prove that I had asked, and I asked her to sign it. I also included an example of my handwriting to show that my mother's note was not forged: http://i.imgur.com/WXzCBkJ.jpg (her note) *EDIT EDIT EDIT* I had to delete the original 'comparison' because it had the OP's address on it. I will find another suitable example**
If I had a working vehicle, I would do it myself. (I can provide pictures of the engine light if necessary. It's no trouble.)
But this is an update on the shipping situation. Included is a signed note by my mother stating that the items will be shipped on Wednesday. There is nothing I can do since she is my only ride until my car is repaired.
EDIT
*ADDITIONAL EXAMPLE OF HANDWRITING COMPARISON: http://i.imgur.com/uhpyUjQ.jpg
I understand her being upset about the tail. I do not blame her nor do I try to justify the wait time. The issue is the miscommunication on whether or not she thought that this was a trade. Arguments saying "Just ship the box!" and "It took 17 months!" have already been answered. Please read the entirety of the article!! If you read all parts of the story, you would see hat I already discussed that the box will be shipped with both the owner of A_B and a moderator. The mods and I discussed the other aspects and came to a mature agreement.
Also, if you have something to say, SAY IT TO ME DIRECTLY, PLEASE. DO NOT COMMENT ON OTHER PEOPLE'S RESPONSES FOR IT DOES NOT INVOLVE THEM. Please keep all comments directed to me if you have a response!
---
I will leave this journal up for reference purposes, but I ask that NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS BE MADE AT THIS POINT ON THIS JOURNAL. If you have a comment, question or concern you are, by all means, free to post on the A_B! (http://artists-beware.livejournal.com/796376.html#comments) But please! NO ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
---
I am no stranger to A_B because of my past mistakes. I take full responsibility in those posts and am working to make sure I correct each issue...however, the most recent one I do not agree with...and since A_B does not account for "the other side of the story" I feel like I need to make my voice heard. I emailed one of the moderators to explain the situation, but for those wondering about the article I will post it here for reference.
Below is the email I sent to the moderator. Now, this is not an attempt to get the article taken down, but rarely you get to hear what happened on the other end of the spectrum. In this case, I really do feel that the screenshots and information used were constructed in a way to be more harmful than informative.
If you have any sort of comments, please keep them respectful. If you disagree with me then by all means feel free to post about said disagreement, but I ask if you handle it in a mature and calm manner. This Monday this journal will be updated with the tracking for the items mentioned in the original note.
---
Hello!
I am not sure who to contact for this, but regarding the recent A_B article..I'd like to place a rebuttal because I believe the article was posted simply because it had my name on it.
The article: http://artists-beware.livejournal.c......html#comments
I've made mistakes in the past that have landed me on the site, that I am not going to fight as it was my fault and I will not disagree when I rightfully belong there for those said mistakes, but this recent article I must say something for I believe the author heavily altered the situation to make it seem as if I was ripping them off.
First of all, let me explain that the only money that changed hands was for the Jail partial purchased, which included the Head, Tail, Feet, hand paws and leg sleeves. (the original note: http://i.imgur.com/QtCV0nw.png) All of which were delivered to OED upon payment for an eye repair before shipping out to the author. She successfully received the box within this post: http://i.imgur.com/xIsrPXo.png
The rest of the parts apparently owed, the tail and the handpaws, were not included in the box for they wouldn't fit. She agreed to this statement and said it was fine. I promised to deliver them at a later date: that's when the buddy box was formed because she also wanted to send me a package.
Her wanting to send me a buddy box in return: http://i.imgur.com/uSDOOl7.png
And so the buddy box was on. I even have a picture of the items I was going to send her, along with a price-sheet of the cost of each item: http://i.imgur.com/YWGp2Pp.jpg
---
Price Sheet:
Buddy Box Price inventory (doesn't include the shipping I paid to get these items)
-Rilakkuma limited edition Halloween plushies: $25.75 (x3)
-Rilakkuma & Korilakkuma classics: $11.90 (x2)
-Kirroitori classic palm-sized: $9.55 (x1)
-Large gloomy bear: $40.00 (x1)
-Disney tsum tsum small plushies: $4.95 (x15)
-Rilakkuma memopads: $4.45 (x4)
-Rilakkuma mini memopads (bought set of 4): $6.37 (x1)
-Assorted stickers totalling to $30.00+
-OED Doe tail valued at $60.00
-Bunny&Black bow: $20.00 (x1)
-Rilakkumart coffee pen holder: $18.95 (x1)
-Stationary items inside Rilakkumart coffee pen holder totalling to $30.00+
-Rilakkuma funny face series coin pouch: $13.54 (x2)
-Rilakkuma letter set: $6.37 (x1)
IN ADDITION TO BUT NOT INCLUDED IN THIS SHEET: "Squishies" and mascot type phone charms, hand-made bandanna and other assorted items.
---
She wished for me to omit the hand paws, so I did so. So all that was left that was mentioned in the "deal" was the tail, which I was going to send along with the items.
Time passed and her box arrived. She mentioned something about chocolates, but I had no idea what was in the box other than that (I mentioned this because of her argument that I never showed her the contents of the box which is untrue. I showed her over webcam in a Skype call, and she remarked how they were items one could find in a Japanese toy store.)
Now the part I agree to was the time between her box and my box. Perhaps I should have made her pay for her gifts, ship them, then return the money to her at a later date? I don't know if it's just me but I find that defeats the purpose of a care package if the party has to pay for anything in any way.
About the post about me shipping the box with Kahuna, my intentions were to do such but the box to ship Kahuna ended up costing $63.13..and the box for the author, I was quoted for over $80 in shipping the author's alone. I did not have the funds to drop $140 in shipping in the same day, so I shipped Kahuna out and not the author's package. To make up for it, I added additional items to the box in order to apologize for the further wait.
Also, she mentioned that I used an excuse of flooding as a way to get out of sending the box. Well, here's proof that there really was flooding (http://www.chron.com/news/houston-w.....sy-5766569.php).
I am not sure if the author understood what the care packages were all about. What I included in the buyout for Jail but didn't charge additional for was A. Handpaws B. The tail. She didn't want A so in reality I owe her the tail. The Jail plush, the bandanna were all included in the buddy box as extras and were not a part of the original note. While I understand where the miscommunication came from, none of the extra items that were not involved with the original notes were charged; furthermore, additional shipping for the box was not accepted for I was under the impression that we were doing a care package for one another, so I didn't want her to pay for her gift. This was a case of friends sending gifts to one another; I purchased everything with my own money. I kept her updated throughout the whole process, and the incident of me "ignoring" her (http://i.imgur.com/T7cBgaL.png) was that I was out for those days. I did respond to said messages upon returning, but again she has omitted this information.
I am not trying to convince anyone that the author is a bad individual, however she should not have omitted key information. Again, I believe she did not understand the detail with the buddy box..and she did not ask me once if this was a part of the items included as thanks for buying out Jail. Assumptions are often a terrible mistake to partake in; if anyone I should know this all too well.
So, this beware all in all consists of a miscommunication in a buddy box situation. If this was the case, then I could very well submit bewares for friends that have not sent me care packages in return? I wasn't aware that A_B had a category for buddy boxes, and if this is the case then I apologize for this wall of text.
Thank you for your time.
---
*EDIT* I see that at the end of the beware post, she said that I said I would take all the time I need? I never said this and the author omits any sort of proof that asserts such. She also states that I said all of the things were gifts...which is true? That's why we were sending boxes to one another...to give gifts!
*EDIT, ADDITIONAL PROOF* I was hospitalized twice yet she claimed these were excuses, here are the pics to prove it: http://i.imgur.com/SS2APMA.jpg , http://i.imgur.com/3iaSHI6.jpg
*EDIT, PROOF THAT SHE IS SAYING THAT I AM "GETTING PEOPLE ON MY SIDE*: http://i.imgur.com/7lOWexk.png
*EDIT: We talked it out, agreed that the boxes were between friends and not a transaction. I am taking responsibility for the box being late, however:
[5:30:01 AM] sugar booger: The issue is this: I did not ask for a box, you offered it IN RETURN for my giving you extras. It was done in the spirit of friendship and in the light that we were just going to send each other things.
[5:30:20 AM] sugar booger: This was not a transaction. This was not "I am going to send you chocolate for your tail."
[5:31:29 AM] sugar booger: That's where my view stands, yours is that I agreed to a trade. I agreed to send items in return for a box.
[5:34:34 AM] # We did it as friends but you never returned a single box. That's my problem. You offered and offered and you make the box look so nice but never sending it doesn't make you a nice person.
FA+

Yeah, I don't really think it's fair if it's a personal care package swap. If it happened with a pen pal, would they/you/whomever do the same thing? I don't think that's cool.
I don't understand if they didn't believe the sick things? You really were ill. Excuse you for having an immune system, yeah? lol
(Also, do you have a commission list up?)
And yes, that was one of her issues was that I claimed I was ill..but I still the hospital bands to prove such.
I am not going to lie, some things I take ages on. I am not going to pretend that I don't and that is my fault for I take on way too much than I can handle sometimes.
It's time that I speak up, if it's to take responsibility or in this case...explain what's up.
I hate A_B
Unless you've tried in the past and have been banned or something I guess idk
but yea I'm on your side as well
HOWEVER! The MAIN issue here is that the tail *IS* part of the buyout deal you offered her and she took. You actually DO owe her that part and though it's not a giant problem if it's send out a little late, we're talking about SEVENTEEN months here. That's a very frustratingly long time to wait for a deal to be met.
Again I get your point and I get that to you it feels Wolvinny is disproportionately upset about this, but imagine having to wait 17 months for part of a suit you bought in a buyout deal. The never-received gifts just make it extra sour.
My advice is to just send the damn box and be done with it, because I'm sure Wolvinny wants nothing more than that. She doesn't want to name and shame you, she doesn't want to vilify you. She just wants to stop waiting for a package promised to her well over a year ago.
The naming and shaming thing is something she intended to do, as seen here: http://i.imgur.com/cL6vplu.png
Anyway, the journal states that the item will be shipped out Monday, but your concern has been noted!
Back in January 2014. That's 8 months ago.
And in June 2013 (http://i.imgur.com/uSDOOl7.png) you claimed to have "everything ready" for the second box.
That's 15 months ago.
So you're telling us that, even while she offered to pay for the shipping because she wanted to have that box so bad, simply shipping a box took you over 15 months. And that's somehow her fault?
I am not saying the length taken was her fault - note that I never put blame on her shoulders.
Seems to me you only take responsibility for half the length.
Oooh, I see she posted something about me on twitter on how I am trying to get people to "take sides" when I stated: Now, this is not an attempt to get the article taken down, but rarely you get to hear what happened on the other end of the spectrum. In this case, I really do feel that the screenshots and information used were constructed in a way to be more harmful than informative.
NOTE - This is not an attempt to get the A_B taken down. Just to offer my side of the situation.
Proof of the twitter post: http://i.imgur.com/7lOWexk.png
Now, posting a social media website that "She is getting people on her side" is a little iffy to me?
Thats immature as feck.
Like srsly, good on you for handling this calmly and stuff. I mean, you dun goofed a bit, but you're trying to fix the situation.
And yes, I am! And I am not trying to pull sides either, I am just offering two sides of the coin.
I am honestly disappointed that she posted this to social media. I get being upset because someone disagrees with you, but to do that?
In my original post about the item list (that I still own) I omitted any names. She posted the direct article along with the comment "she's getting people on her side."
Sorry, you mentioned something about immaturity?
When I did it, I kept the name and business out of the situation. She directly linked everything, not omitting names.
If she would have said, "This person is really pissing me off." With no direct links, no nothing...I wouldn't be so upset.
I understand you're her significant other, but that doesn't give you an excuse to look at this through rose-tinted googles. I understand you're trying to defend her, but in my comment I asked for maturity and calm sense. Please demonstrate such.