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Why do you like rape?
17 years ago
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I got mail question from raped person.
She don't have good feel by your rape adore.
I think, another raped persons has hating feels to you. Why is Rain related rape?
I wondering that thing by some times ago. I was not make rape art.
but I have some duty at this problem. Sergals don't like rape.
She don't have good feel by your rape adore.
I think, another raped persons has hating feels to you. Why is Rain related rape?
I wondering that thing by some times ago. I was not make rape art.
but I have some duty at this problem. Sergals don't like rape.
Rape by definition is unwilling, and ooutside of roleplay agreed to by both parties, utterly abhorrant.
Roleplay-wise.... I can just about live with it, because no-body really gets hurt - like vore, it is purely fantasy. But even then it is something that has to be agreed on by the players beforehand for me to be willing to incorporate it in a scene.
anyone who thinks what you are saying is so stupid that i fear for the safety of everyone around you.
i don't care if you cause drama. i just think right now you should know you're a liability to the human race.
Would you care to elaborate how/why -drawn- rape is evil?
your reading comprehension is terrible.
second off, his reply was a complete and utter straw man rolled into a slippery slope that was COMPLETELY unrelated to anything I'd said previously and fairly idiotic in its own right.
stop talking.
your attempt to offend me really didn't work but good try. :)
"if someone got to know me..."
Yeah you're so misunderstood. You want to say stupid shit without being held accountable for it. So you're a moron and a coward.
Yes. Exactly.
There are some fucked-up people in this fandom, didn't you know that? People who truthfully believe that hard fetishes, bestiality, etc. are wholesome acts and have no shame for partaking in them or telling others about it as loudly as possible. So a person cannot assume that such comments are made in jest, unfortunately.
You should understand that this "being silly" is exactly what the original complaint was about. Rape is not something to take lightly, or joke about.
2) I never met someone who can call a rape "the best sex of their life"
people should think better about it, because there's already a lot of idiots who rape people because "hey it's cool" or "aaah I guess she liked it in the end".
I hope you'll be raped one day, so you'll understand A LOT.
And if you'll enjoy it, please go to visit a psychanalist.
Ahhhh, the cry of the butt hurt; "I was just doing it for the lulz rly. I r not actly dumb guiz".
You're full of fail. There was nothing wrong with the journal otherwise.
And I just found this journal via mick's new journal, saw your idiocy... had to react
Rape can't turn to willing at common sense man's thinking.
lol
English-speaking people likely first heard of Rain through this website, or heard it from friends who heard it through this website. The joke was very popular for a time and became quite famous.
Now if you ask a person at random about sergals on the internet, they will likely say "Oh yes, I know them, they are furry rape machines."
Actually it evolved from a picture where Rain sticks fingers into a tied female's vagina. Combine it with their creepy appearance and give it to a couple of Silent Hill fans... And you'll get a furry version of the Pyramid Head.
Funny thing though - when the old stories about Rain were translated, everyone was shocked that Rain was not a rape machine.
She seemed to be more gentle than how she was pictured in the art.
Good to hear you say that, because I use a Sergal character and I am somewhat tired of the people I talk to,
who make "rape jokes" about Sergals all the time.
Oh and the whole "Rain likes to rape!" thing started from 4chan.
"You can't rape the willing!"
Real rape is serious, but this journal is disgrace to that seriousness and every single one of you should feel bad. Don't cross fantasies shared by two intimate people and a real serious problem like actual rape. You're crossing two lines that should never be crossed and you're burning people in the process. It's a disgrace.
"It's not right and I won't allow it!"
Keep on, buddy.
I get upset when people don't understand the difference between fantasy and reality and they start burning other people with the line they don't see. So sue me if I'm a little angry.
I personally don't think that consensual adults indulging in play rape fantasies has that effect. But it's also perfectly reasonable to disagree with me, and such disagreement does not require an inability to distinguish fantasy and reality.
"Throwing words like "moron" and "idiot". Grow Up."
Again, http://www.wikihow.com/Use-You%27re-and-Your
You seem to think you deserve better than flaming. Something about you having a great life, and people PM you all the time to tell you how great you are. That's very interesting. Tell me more. How many compliments does it take to make you feel worthwhile?
"the sheer scale of this, the amount of people"
"even my bro"
"if someone got to know me they would realize this is just me being silly and messing about. In fact I am quite nice usually"
I can't make up those quotes. It's clearly very important to you to have widespread recognition, and for people to know that you're really a nice guy if they'd just give you a chance. You've had problems making friends in the past and you're still kind of traumatized over it. That's not that unusual, danza, you needn't feel so ashamed.
But you can't pretend that you want to have a serious conversation about rape, though, when you replied to a serious comment with more defense of your wounded ego.
Again with the insistence on "REAL LIFE" from a person who defends his first comment here with "I was just being stupid" on the internet. Keep telling me how important and popular you are in real life. I'm almost convinced. I think I just need to hear it one more time.
"No one thought you were serious. It was obvious that you were being stupid. But that doesn't make you any more likable. You say stupid shit, you're going to be called an idiot."
You earned the insults, because you couldn't admit fault and instead tried to excuse yourself with a lame cop out, "I was just kidding." If you don't want to get flamed, you need to understand that no one is obliged to think that you're funny; anger is a legitimate reaction to insensitive comments, and a joke does not earn you diplomatic immunity.
"Throwing words like "moron" and "idiot". Grow Up."
I want you to look at that for a second.
I want you to look really hard.
I misinterpreted
Also gee, I wonder WHY some people might be touchy about the subject of rape. >:/
jesus christ how can someone watch tracymick and not know he's not an english major
COME
ON
GUYS
So in summary, apologies for misinterpreting.
Sergals, especially Raine, are very beautiful, yet also terrifying creatures.
and perhaps, they fear some would like rape.
of course, some people act as if they have not brains of their own, and only repeat what others say.
also, there are those who show concern, but do not look as carefully as they should before acting.
Oh..! fuck!
Then of course poor Rain ended up on 4chan >.=.O
Eating young ones? Yes.
No eating.
And she was quite gentle towards Gin.
The /tg/ board on 4chan has taken a love/hate relationship to them lately though, they've made D&D pages for them and such.
O,O'
I like them most as great hunters.
<3
Tough I first noticed Rain at a side with furry-pictures as a sexy one. :D
<3
Can't get enough of seeing her doing it.
Oh wait wrong topic.
A lot of people think sergals are all about rape and vore. It's hard to convince people otherwise, but those who are convinced, tend to like the race a lot.
tough, i still prefer her eating small, or big things :D than raeping ^^;
Having a rape fetish is usually not the same as actually wanting to rape someone (I say "usually" because there's always going to be one sicko who proves me wrong, the same way being a furry usually means you don't want to fuck your dog :D).
A rape fetishist operates on fantasy...it's all roleplaying, I know I myself might enjoy the idea of rape at times but would never, ever want to actually be raped.
Now, I know this will cause a huge drama explosion from Danza and probably a few others but it isn't worth my time to reply to the drama.
The same way I may have a rape fetish and never ever want to be actually raped, there are plenty of people who could play at "rape" with their partners and fantasize about "raping" someone but actually carrying through with it is not part of their agenda.
It's not fair to say that just having the fetish creates someone who is a criminal and who would act as such. People who aren't touched in the head and have common sense KNOW that someone will not come to "enjoy a rape" no matter how good it feels sexually. I honestly can't imagine why someone would think that rape would turn consensual if it was actual rape, although I can see the example that you pointed out in someone's comment.
I'd like to just think that that person is not of average intelligence/common sense.
Average people fantasize about things that they would never dream of doing every day.
The meme was popular for awhile online in America, so people have associated Rain with rape.
Firstly, it's important to remember that there's a difference between liking fantasies of rape, and liking rape itself. Being into vore doesn't mean you're a cannibal in real life, for instance -- and it's the same with rape. People indulge in the fantasy because it satisfies their fetish, not because they're expressing an urge to actually, nonconsensually rape/be raped. The fact that people make jokes and snide remarks about rape in the context of their fetish can easily come across as being especially callous and insensitive, whereas in reality I think it's a way of emphasising that you're dealing with fantasy only. Of course, it's difficult to make someone who's been raped see it that way, and I don't blame them for that. Still, it's a fact IMHO.
Secondly, what is it about the rape fantasy that attracts people? I think there are a lot of reasons, depending on the person. For some it's an extension of the Domination/submission setup -- there aren't many acts that place more power in the hands of the aggressor than rape. For others it's a way of relieving guilt about sex. Danza brought it up, but it's common for a rape fantasy to include a point where the victim realises they're actually enjoying what's happening. I think this is a way of transferring the responsibility for sex to the aggressor - they're making the first move in the most direct way possible; the victim is forced into something they don't have the courage to initiate themselves. The fact that this doesn't happen in real rape just shows that we're dealing with a fantasy, not an actual desire for rape. And for other people, it's simply about breaking a taboo, adding an edge of illicitness to sex -- along with associated urges like masochism, enjoyment of being tied up, etc.
Thirdly, why are sergals associated with rape? Well, if you (
That's what I think, anyway. Of course, I respect your decision if you want to distance yourself from that perception of Rain/sergals -- you have every right to show them as what you think is best.
Now, I know this will cause a huge drama explosion from Danza and probably a few others but what the hell, let them scream and shout and call people names.
Now to address the meat of your post: you're generalising in a dangerous way. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure there are rapists who preceded their crimes with fantasy and planning, but you can't turn that around and say that anyone who has rape as a fantasy -- from either side of the act -- is therefore an 'arch-typical pre-crime rapist'. The majority of rapes are spontaneous, not pre-planned. It's also a fact that the fantasy is far, far more common than any tendency to actually carry out the act -- as is the case with most fantasies.
If somebody is mentally sick enough that they are seriously planning, or might seriously plan to commit a rape then without doubt, intervention might be called for. But you absolutely can't assume that's the case based solely on somebody holding a very common fantasy.
As the guy said, some people do go on to do it but the vast, vast majority as someone said further up "keep it in their pants"
I think as you said you must have some kind of mental deficiency to go and commit real life rape without the understanding of the consequences. People who think its cool in real life make me feel sick, like as if its something to be proud of.
All the same, back on topic... The fact that Tracy is a bit down due to the connotations her character seems to have had. She hasn't really done much to prevent that ... http://www.furaffinity.net/view/274846/
Thanks for the good contribution Senn, its holistic people like you that make this fandom more tolerable. :3
Thanks for flaming at me though and what ?
Assuming I think RL rape is ok.
Douche.
Generally things such as this, "What if the induvidual was amazing at the sexual act, and was actually quite the gentlemen but was just desperate. And actually gave the rape victim the best sex of their life ? O_O" don't come off well to people when you speak of rape. You corrected yourself afterward which, is why I did not say, "Danza's a pre-crime spree rapist." I am sorry if you interpreted it as such.
I will also admit that I felt like crap yesterday and may have had the subconscious desire to make other people feel like crap too. Don't take it too seriously. I don't want this to devolve into a senseless flame war.
Rain eating someone, is like a lion eating a gazelle. Rain is a predator after all :)
`I don't know what you mean by "glory",' Alice said.
Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. `Of course you don't -- till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'
`But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument",' Alice objected.
`When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less.'
`The question is,' said Alice, `whether you can make words mean so many different things.'
`The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master -- that's all.'
Alice was too much puzzled to say anything; so after a minute Humpty Dumpty began again. `They've a temper, some of them -- particularly verbs: they're the proudest -- adjectives you can do anything with, but not verbs -- however, I can manage the whole lot of them! Impenetrability! That's what I say!'
`Would you tell me please,' said Alice, `what that means?'
`Now you talk like a reasonable child,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. `I meant by "impenetrability" that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life.'
The truth is, we were all still high on Pyramid head meme and the first model of Rain appeared on /b/ at a certain point. We honestly had no idea what we were up against, so after some more images and the fact her clit was really a penetration tool, we jumped on the boat that she loved to rape, because of this vicious nature we just randomly assumed.
or something
Sergals are beautiful predators.
i lol'd when lulz.net got all up in arms when Trancy started drawing Rain with breasts, butt-feathers and no pussy tentacle - GUYS DON'T FORGET WHO MADE THESE CREATURES IN THE FIRST PLACE
Woo her with rohypnol.
Either way, by the end of the night, something's gonna be hitting the back of her throat.
And remember ladies and gentlemen, start your morning off right with a big fat mug of rape. Doesn't it feel good?
Still, RP rape is fine, real rape is not.
"Rape is bad", "Eating is bad" and "killing is bad".
Everyone haven't life with no eating.
Eating is in short killing animals and plants.
I don't say "Not eat!" to lion.
Perhaps, I say "Not rape!" is stupid.
Yes I know world is brutal.
Is rape bad?
Is rape bad enough to where your brutal creatures do not do it at all, or is it just something that happens with some of them, even if Rain does not do it?
The latter is more realistic, though it does not have to be said, that is common in most societies.
I don't want to seem like I'm judging, though. I think rape is bad, I think vore is bad, but, I enjoy the art of vore.
I just wanted to ask the question, because your journal made me curious, why you are sad if someone says you draw art of rape, but you are fine when someone shows you draw art of vore (killing for pleasure, not for need -- because Rain could simply eat a sandwich). If they are both not okay in life (rape, and killing/eating someone scared, without need), but killing is okay in art, why is rape not also okay in art?
I am sorry if the question is upsetting. I don't like rape in art either. But, questions of fetish and fantasy and art (and what is okay, what is not okay, in fantasy and real) are very interesting for me. Your journal made me curious, so I wanted to ask, maybe to understand why and how you enjoy things. (Because I don't understand myself; your art and chimerasynx's art is upsetting to me, but also very enjoyable.. I hope by asking questions I can come to understand this better ^^; )
Anyway, thank you for the reply.
Sergals seem to be very predatory creatures, and carnivores, so I'm guessing that the idea of eating meat in general is accepted and necessary for these creatures.
I'm also guessing by the wide jaws and neck, and the general lack of sharp holding teeth, that swallowing large chunks, or small prey whole, is a common method of feeding. I'm thinking similar to my tegu lizard; though it has jaws full of teeth to hold prey (or tear off chunks of large items), but on the other hand Sergals have hands and tools to cut things to manageable sizes. if this is true, it's also likely they benefit more from digesting all internal organs and the bones of their food.
point being; I'm assuming it's "natural" for Sergals to swallow prey whole (vore), thus why such a thing is 'okay' for them, but not rape.
... but, of course, Trancy created them that way; why not give them a full mouth of teeth to tear apart prey? why not make them omnivores? :]
it's a good question, all in all (more I could add to it, but it' gets a bit personal)
If it's in your basic nature to do so, then it would be cruel and unreasonable for someone to ask you not to.
It's like saying breathing is bad.
Humans do not _have_ to rape or kill. We can choose to have consensual sex, to gather or farm. We have a choice. Our brains don't tell us to rape and kill all the time. We can choose not to and STILL BE HAPPY. Rape and killing is "wrong" when we do it because we have this choice.
A lion's brain tells it to kill all the time. That is all it does. It would be foolish to expect it to do otherwise. If you force a lion to never hunt, it will not be happy. That is cruel.
I always just assumed that Rain is like the lion.
And the question was more in the sense of, is either alternative really close enough to 'acceptable' to justify drawing a line between them, at least in a context like Rain's where the vore is (if I'm not mistaken?) sheerly for the enjoyment of it. If (theoretically) someone whose family member was eaten by a sentient being for fun (again, theoretically :p), would he shrug it off? (Versus in a case like this, where he clarified that he wouldn't draw something deplorable like that in his art..)
Was mainly curious about the distinction, it wasn't meant to sound judgmental, but I was curious about the disparity.
Juries, people... some of my neighbors XD Basically, yeah western culture, at least that’s what the prime time news suggests as well. I think vore and eating isn't as serious, no, because it's not a real problem our society is currently dealing with. Sure, people have eaten other people, and people have been eaten by animals, but it's not something the mass majority of citizens cares or worries about. For it to happen is so rare and isolated not to mention as horrible as those death are, they simply don't carry the stigma rape does. That’s human beings for you, go figure.
I think it's generally this:
if you're murdered, well, you certainly aren't around to deal with the consequences. just whatever friends/family you may leave behind. it's probably going to be pretty awful for them, but, you yourself aren't around to tell everyone how terrible of a thing happened to you.
if you're raped, you are perfectly alive to grapple with how it's affected you, along with your friends/family dealing with you - OR you dealing with them not giving two shits. you're most definitely left to try and continue on with your life, and sexual abuse victims, at least in the beginning of "life after," tend to be left to deal pretty much alone (sometimes through their own silence, but still)
Yes, Rape is also bad, but saying Death is preferable is just being melodramatic. I mean, what would be the point? Are you going to encourage suicide amongst rape victims, lest they go on living their traumatized lives?
Of course, since it's all drawn stuff anyway, it doesn't really matter.
Because her face is scary.
I'm mostly okay with rape pictures, only one ever bothered me and that was because it remembered me of a incident that actually happened to me.
What I DON'T like is something killing and eating someone they just had sex with.
The way I am depicting Rain's thought process in my writing is such that as she wants, what she wants, and if that is sex or food then lord help anyone who gets in her way.
http://www.haveaslogan.com/
that said rape is made into FAR too big of a deal. if someone rapes they should be punished out of the publics eye. why? because frequently people are accused of rape and tried, found guilty and hated for years afterwards, eventually the accuser comes forward and admits it was a lie and this poor sod has had a shit life because some prick wanted to get one over on them
Fantasy rape. well it's fantasy isn't it, if your going to complain about rape drawings and roleplay rape you might as well shut down 80% of the porn and fetish industry since it's all controversial
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/hypocrisy
Some more links for your edification.
I guess its like being in control of the situation that makes them feel like they are finally worth something when normally they don't have any self confidence or any really care for themselves.
I'm talking about real rape here.
Mots rapists see it as the only way they can be in control of anything in their lives.
As for fictional rape, I think for people who are turned on as rape victims, its the idea of putting their fate and pain into someone's else's hands.
Some people find that a real turn on.
Then it would just be non-consensual sex :o
rape = non-consensual sex
NC = Non-consenting can enjoy
Stop being retarded plz
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/rape
rape is any and all unconsensual sex. It has nothing to do with pleasure
I don't really care either way, i just found the uproar from danza's posts kind of funny
SogetoverurselfuFAGORT
you'll be something special when you grow up.
Ur a fabulous fag
*gay voice*
ISNT MY QUEER BEATING STICK JUST FABULOUSSSSSSSSSS?
It's called a Log Cabin Republican.
so you're also a coward.
it must suck to be you, day in and day out. Try suicide?
My life is pretty great
PS i'm not wrong, and you are so full of yourself its hilarious!
I can't be bothered to care what that is, but it is funny to see you squirm.
One, how is "Kill yourself" a friendly suggestion?
Two i'm not trying to make you care about my friends and relations (Where the hell did you get that?) i was just mentioning how happy i am to be living
Three I dont want respect from ANYONE on the internet especially a furry :O i will never meet you (probably atleast) why should i care
Four how do these things meen i'm covering some shame?
Do you read what you post? Or does it come directly from your ass?
Haha oh wow, this is the most fun i've had on furaffinity :D
You apparently are telling yourself that you don't care what others think of you, even though it's obvious to everyone else that you do. And this blindness to your own motivations is a telltale sign of repression (of shame or pain).
It's funny how much you can reveal even over the internet without realizing it.
Anyway. Rape is defined by the lack of consent. Enjoyment, or lack thereof, does not factor into it. Your definition is in no dictionaries, and has been tried in court, to the result of guilt and imprisonment. There's really no serious way for you to pretend that you're not wrong.
And i dont care what you think about me, the reason i'm arguing is it's fun and i need something to pass the time while FEAR 2 downloads :D
Dude if you didn't care, you wouldn't care enough to defend yourself against the accusation. This is really bothering you. It's almost sad enough to make me feel sorry for you.
Way to completely miss what i said entirely!
And i wasn't whining it was a statement.
Now please, i'll wait a second, go back to carefully read my previous post and make a response that is appropriate :)
"i'm relatively popular"
"i'm not trying to make you care about my friends and relations"
"I dont want respect from ANYONE on the internet"
"i dont care what you think about me"
"i wasn't whining it was a statement."
Over and over. It's sad. I'm see what you think you're saying; I'm pointing out that your actions contradict your words. If you didn't care, you wouldn't keep trying to defend yourself against this supposed misunderstanding. This is obviously pretty important to you. You care so much that you can't stop insisting that you don't care.
And continuing to try and tell me that i'm sad and repressing something :O
You obviously don't understand though
I CARE
ABOUT
REAL
LIFE
I don't care what happens on this website, and i don't really care about your opinions of me
Then you are like "oh well you must care because you are continuing to argue" Which proves you aren't even reading my posts, as i said i'm just doing it to pass the time while fear 2 is downloading
You are just plain silly mister.
You're so needy that I'm really starting to feel sorry for you. Will it make you feel better if I pretend to respect you?
You don't really have a logical argument, you're just insulting me with the same insults over and over
I've come to realize that you aren't very bright :o
So what is it that makes you so needy? Did your dad not hug you?
LIKE BOREDOM
And you put on this psychologist stuffs, snickering in real life.
Oh on that note i had a funny thought of you!
How you keep telling me i'm sad and stuff
I can picture you as some fat guy with a neck beard trying the jedi mind trick... hee
But here you are, complaining that I'm repetitive, and yet in spite of this tiresome repetition, you can't stop trying to convince me that you don't care what I think.
Okay dude. I'm convinced. And I respect you. Feel better? Done whining yet?
Yeesh man i hope for your sake you are better at your job (if you have one ) then arguing :/
Your whole counter argument is about being condescending, and not really saying anything.
Kinda lameo, in any case i have to get up in the morning so i'm gonna head to bed :o
it was fun while it lasted.
81 percent by the way :p
If you want to say something clever, get out your dictionary and try real hard.
I don't associate Sergals with rape. Although I have heard the old joke about "Pet Sergal = receive rape".
Sergals are fierce and hungry creatures, but beautiful and respectable nonetheless. I just don't want to be eaten.
D.O.P.R
Now, in real life, of course, anyone would naturally be freaked out if someone was forceful and wouldn't back down. But in fantasy, it's a guilty pleasure, a way to enjoy someone or something you like without shame or being condemned.
I have "rape fantasies" all the time, where someone I'm enormously attracted to is forceful, rough, won't take no for an answer, and it turns me on beyond belief. Would I REALLY want some random person cornering me in an alleyway and forcing my clothes off? No.
The extent of my little fantasy in REAL life is merely liking a man to be assertive and rough in bed, but there's always consent there.
Fantasy is Fantasy. Real life is Real Life. Sergals aren't real life and if they rape in fantasy, fine. Nothing wrong with that.
But yeah, running 4chan joke. I don't think they implied that all sergals like rape, just Rain, really, but on the bright side, it's certainly gotten you a lot of exposure.
... I guess you might not like the fact that Rain and Pyramid Head are my OTP, huh?
In fact it seems, sergals are linked to rape way too much. But every imagined species are use for that kind of art, even it's a great shame. As called sergals has gotten that stupid stereotype and as it is with every prejudices: It's hard to prevent or change them, even they are as fantastic as wrong.
I hope there will be more focus on the >>normals<< of sergal's life.
But I don't think that way about your creations. I also think it's inappropriate for people to send e-mails saying they are negatively affected by your art because of their own experiences. I'm gonna go ahead and put it out there that I've been raped and it's been so many years that I really don't care about rape art, and actually find the pictures exciting sometimes, as long as the artist doesn't talk about it being cool in a real situation.
People and morals and words and internet, that's a funny thing.
Time for a serious comment ...
I think its bad to some how try and associate rape in real life to the fantasy that is rape either online or in novels and such. I think that rape itself is a terrible example of how we as human beings in this modern age are unable to entirely shake of the chains of our ancient nature to just attempt to fulfill ones needs and wants regardless of the consequences.
I think if by this journal, which no offence I found hard to understand but I appreciate the situation you are in all the same Trancy, I think often those that like to point the finger and throw insults such as in the case of stereotyping your character to rape really are just being extremely pedantic. My advice is to remember where this came from. 4Chan, Its no surprise to me at least they would go and do something like that. I don't think your art represents any kind of rape although I do speculate as to how you actually feel on this matter...
Do keep in mind that their is a vast difference between "rape" online such as in RP's and real rape. Which of course has much more horrific and long term effects on those involved.
Thats just my 2 pence :3
Rape=Bad
Roleplay=Good
however, I will say the majority of so called Rapes are indeed regrettable sex
Doesn't change the fact that rape is heinous crime and deplorable act, and should be punished far more harshly than it is
You realize, rape can be a difficult thing to prove in the first place, and many people who are raped are too afraid to come forward and report it because of people like you who will simply assume they're lying, or try to blame or shame them for it. Most rapes are not even reported. False rape allegations don't even usually go to trial, and often even if you do get a conviction when one was actually raped, the rapist gets a lesser sentence than he would if he had sold some pot.
Secondly there is no standard "look" that rape victims have, people can and do react differently to being raped than other people. Saying that rape victims must behave or act a certain way, or else they are lying, is just ridiculously stupid and ignorant. It shows that you've probably not known a single person affected by sexual abuse in your life.
What happens when a child is raped and they don't have a "different look to them" are you telling me a 2 year old just had "regrettable sex"?
Get an education on this subject please instead of just assuming that most rape victims are liars, because it's nothing but misogynistic rape apologia you're spewing.
I don't mind being insulted, I have been called many things, asshole, backstabber, liar, prick, however i am not ignorant.
and are you truly niave enough to believe that people are are inherently good ? I never said It was their fault they got raped if that is what actually happened. You also seem to completely ignore the fact that I do believe that rape happens, and that when it does i think those whom commit should be drawn and quartered.
Secondly, My Fiance was raped So i have seen the effects firsthand
Also, a fucking 2 Year old can not consent, and those people are referred to as Pedophiles
now, I will not stoop to your level anymore, I am simply saying that from my eyes most rape cases are bullshit regrettable sex, as for how pedophilia was brought i don't know, and how name calling started I'll leave blank
Lets us agree to disagree because neither of us will make any headway
and yes, sorry, but you ARE ignorant. Not an insult, just a fact. Because the fact of the matter is that rape victims do not have to behave the way you believe they should behave in order to not be lying.
You fail to understand my point, you wouldn't call a small child a liar if they didn't act a certain way, so why assume a woman is a liar if they don't?
And yeah, you know ONE person who was, and I'm sorry about that. However, you did not see all "the" effects first hand, you only saw how it affected HER, NOT EVERYONE. It doesn't mean EVERYONE reacts the same way SHE did. I've known at least FIVE people who were raped and I can tell you, they all have different reactions. You can't say, someone is a liar because they don't act a certain way. That's not proof or evidence. Something I'm still waiting for you to show me to back up your claims by the way. But I got you to admit that you completely made up the 90% figure, so I suppose that's progress.
Actually, I'm more ashamed that I stooped to YOUR level, IE people who make rape victims too afraid to report their attackers because they don't think anyone will believe them. So you know, whatever, I can't make you see outside your own personal bubble, that's up to you.
and I've also said most statisics are made up on the spot.
as for how my fiance fared she coped with it rather well however you can see there is still damage if not much. As far as others go i know several others who have been raped. as far as there story goes one of them hates Mexicans because of what happened to her and and bitch tried to attack me.
AND if you are to fucking self conscious to go to the fucking police because got raped because you are worried what others will think then who's fucking problem is that.
Also SMall Children have yet to see the real world and obtained there true face. The real world changes people, everything has to be taken with a grain of salt and some skepticism.
again i am not saying rape doesn't happen however i am saying skeptical of most people who cry rape because that is not the case the majority of the time. When it is ...well the punishment is not what I'd like but the american penial system has it's perks, said rapist well his asshole will turn from this o to this O
Again, it's not name calling, just a fact. Especially since you admit you have NO proof or evidence of anything that you're saying, you're just assuming that one person's experience = everyone's experience.
And yes everything does have to be taken with a grain of salt, you're right, however that's not what you're doing, you're simply defaulting to the side of the accused for no real, rational reason.
You realize going to the police if you're a rape victim means having to relive that moment again and then again and again as the trial takes place, especially when the defense lawyers use the "put the victim on trial" tactic, and having to go through all that when you probably won't even get a conviction. It's not as easy as you think so don't pretend to know what you're talking about.
and you have no proof as to otherwise
I am optimist by nature however cynicism and realism how dowering effects
I'm not pretend to know what im talking about I've had the fortune of never being abused in my life.
and to be quite frank all the circle jerking is getting old
But I'm glad you admitted to not knowing what you're talking about, that's always a good first step. It doesn't really help you in defending the original point though.
query though: can you claim to know what you are talking about ?