Choosing between two passions...
10 years ago
Those of you who know me know I'm a very driven person. Once I find something I'm passionate about, I put my all into it.... but my issue has always been conflicted between two passions.
I love both art and holistic nutrition.
On one hand, I have this great community of friends here on FA who support my work and I feel like I've already got my foot in the door to be a successful artist. All I need to do is really turn on my focus and get back to when I would live in my studies and improve in leaps and bounds (and work on my marketing).
On the other hand, I've been obsessed with healthy living and fitness for the past 3 or so years. I've been really considering going to school so I can help people lead a healthier lifestyle and educate them on what they eat. It's just with nutrition I feel like such a small fish in a big pond and I don't know if I have anything to say that hasn't already been said. I don't think I have anything innovative to add to the overload of info already out there. That being said, I haven't gone to school so I could be introduced to something that offers me a different perspective.
It's important to me that at some point I start teaching (whether it's art or nutrition), and art is something I can see eventually making tutorials and mentorship and youtube vlogs etc. I'd love to have a blog dedicated to healthy living and stuff but like I said there's just SO much competition that I feel really intimidated.
artist pros: -foot in door
-abundance of free knowledge
- can more easily educate
artist cons: embarrassed about furry art
- making art doesn't help anyone or change their lives
- don't know what I would do outside of commission work
- full time could potentially kill the passion
- taxes, completely self-reliant (no benefits)
nutritionist pros: respectable, source of pride
- helps people change their lives
- encourages me to continue pursuing a healthy lifestyle
- can do art on the side for myself
- makes more money, benefits
nutritionist cons: intimidating, small fish big pond
- no semblance of a following, would be starting from scratch
- need to get into better shape to represent
- need to go to school/costs money
- need to be more outgoing/extroverted
I'm not asking for you to help me choose which to pursue or anything, I just kind of needed to rant and maybe hear some of your advice if you've got any.
GAH LIFE CHOICES
I love both art and holistic nutrition.
On one hand, I have this great community of friends here on FA who support my work and I feel like I've already got my foot in the door to be a successful artist. All I need to do is really turn on my focus and get back to when I would live in my studies and improve in leaps and bounds (and work on my marketing).
On the other hand, I've been obsessed with healthy living and fitness for the past 3 or so years. I've been really considering going to school so I can help people lead a healthier lifestyle and educate them on what they eat. It's just with nutrition I feel like such a small fish in a big pond and I don't know if I have anything to say that hasn't already been said. I don't think I have anything innovative to add to the overload of info already out there. That being said, I haven't gone to school so I could be introduced to something that offers me a different perspective.
It's important to me that at some point I start teaching (whether it's art or nutrition), and art is something I can see eventually making tutorials and mentorship and youtube vlogs etc. I'd love to have a blog dedicated to healthy living and stuff but like I said there's just SO much competition that I feel really intimidated.
artist pros: -foot in door
-abundance of free knowledge
- can more easily educate
artist cons: embarrassed about furry art
- making art doesn't help anyone or change their lives
- don't know what I would do outside of commission work
- full time could potentially kill the passion
- taxes, completely self-reliant (no benefits)
nutritionist pros: respectable, source of pride
- helps people change their lives
- encourages me to continue pursuing a healthy lifestyle
- can do art on the side for myself
- makes more money, benefits
nutritionist cons: intimidating, small fish big pond
- no semblance of a following, would be starting from scratch
- need to get into better shape to represent
- need to go to school/costs money
- need to be more outgoing/extroverted
I'm not asking for you to help me choose which to pursue or anything, I just kind of needed to rant and maybe hear some of your advice if you've got any.
GAH LIFE CHOICES
im torn between 3 things at the moment myself
its tough to choose, but its like, try to imagine how it would be in the future, ry to imagine how you feel about them now
write out all the things you like personally or dislike personally about each aspect, leaning away from the economic and logical aspects, so you can have that to compare w the lists you have here?
which one you feel like you could really keep and keep persuing
or you could even figure out ways to mix it in? (like full time art, doing some training on the side, or full time trainer who takes comissions or makes tutorials every once in awhile?)
It's just hard for me to do that because I'm such an all or nothing person. I want to choose one and spend 100% of my time focusing on it rather than spreading myself out. But I think if I completely ignore either one of these passions then I'd feel unfulfilled in the end. :P I appreciate the help, hopefully you figure out what's best for you or find some way to compromise with the 3!
For a long time, I've felt you've been trying to get art as your career choice, but how well do you manage burnout? When you make even less money, you can not really afford a break. Commission money is earned entirely based on how active you want to be everyday.
All in all though, you'd do well in either seat. If you could live off of art for an entire month and still say to yourself "I can do this for a long time!", then there is no wrong choice. Plus, you could always stop art and go for nutrition whenever you wanted.
I've actually been okay with handling it for the past few months. I mean I've been living completely off commissions for.... almost a year now? Granted I haven't always been paying rent depending on my location, but I've still been paying bills and buying food and I've done alright for myself. I just feel kind of stagnant with art. I could get really good, but at some point financially I'll cap out. I think there's more growth potential with nutrition and much more stability at that so I'm pretty certain I'll pursue that and just do art as a hobby. :)
- full time could potentially kill the passion
- taxes, completely self-reliant (no benefits).
You can do both and art as hobby is fantastic. For me it'd be self-expression and joy... and more i draw these furry stuffs.... i feel less of joy each day. :/ There are artists who burnt out because of the many commissions.
It's really a conflicted feeling... I would love to draw things for myself, but I also find challenge and enjoyment taking on commissions and I feel like I can make money and improve at something I'm passionate about at the same time. But I do think doing art part time would give me both that satisfaction as well as personal satisfaction from creating my own (non furry) work. And of course the taxes COMPLETELY terrify me.
Thanks for your feedback!
This art income imo is good for a side income so you can collect money/buy something for yourself/pay for emergency situations/etc. (I dont know bout your country salaries but here its pretty shitty)
But I dont think i'd get enough money with my art to live by. However among full time job it's a plus thing that could help you even in hard times and you can filter more what you want to accept as commission since it's a not a must. You can improve and have money in a fun way. :D
Yes, i agree that commissions/art-trades make you step out from your comfort zone so you have to try out new things. I experienced the same!
Oh god dont even tell about taxes... in my country it's so horrible for artists... brrrrrr.
Reading your comments i can see we feel the same way in some subjects like the furry smut art.
You can always make time for art as one can do for other necessities of an individual (exercise for example), but what you will have a harder time making time for is the education you will receive pursuing nutritionist studies, assuming you will undertake training. That does not appear to be something you can pursue as independently as an artist.
Of course monetarily nutrition is a lot more stable. I'm confident I could be successful doing either, but I think I'm considering art as much as I am because it allows me to stay in my bubble of comfort.
I do however feel like I could really make a business out of it. Unfortunately I feel like art hasn't really been personal for me in a long time. Which I guess could either be a blessing or a curse, I'm not sure.
Thank you for the feedback, I appreciate it.
It's not just studied, it need the certain calling
(Not sure if that's with the nutrionist too, as you say they are both your passions)
But personally I have more respect for an artist.
Take the one you're more comfortable with, an people will back you on your decision.
Thanks for the feedback!
However, I worry about this option, because I believed I would take a similar option with a military--pursue a longstanding career in the military and do artwork on the side. "Oh you'll have plenty of time to draw and do this and that", they said. Sure, I had a couple of hours to myself in a day, but I was too exhausted to do anything with them. I ended up exhausted, disappointed and depressed with my work because the military career I'd thought I would be happy to pursue ended up eating my life away and I had no life or energy for anything I really enjoyed.
I don't wanna see the same thing happen to you, y'know. Even worse would be the fact you'd have to get a degree for it, if you ended up disappointed with the work a degree to end up exhausted and unable to do other things you love all the time.
For the sake of freedom--which, honestly, I do feel is more important than hefty income--I'd say continue along the path of the artist. I do believe you'll be much happier and more fulfilled along that path.
I have until next spring when the next semester starts (unless I do an online course) so in the meantime I'll have no choice really but to stick with art, and I'm sure when that time comes around I'll have made up my mind.
But I understand how it feels to want to pick one. For example, I do want to experiment with my art, but I also want to stick to one style since people are going to expect a general same style when commissioning you. It's hard to make decisions.
And I also get how tough it is to want to do something and feel you aren't going to be heard, like with the blog. But you always start somewhere, you did with art, i feel it's worth trying out.
I totally get what you mean with the style though. People definitely expect consistency and consistency is just not something I'm great at LOL. I've tried opening up "experimental" commission slots in the past and usually a few people are interested. Maybe try doing something like that...? I noticed people on here are usually pretty open to surprises. Or maybe offer a couple different styles for the commissioner to choose from.
You're right... I joined FA not really worried about whether or not I got my name out there, so maybe I should approach blogging the same way. Thanks for the feedback!
Oh yes, I've done that :3 I mean more for myself, but I also rarely draw for myself so that definitely effects things :P . I meant that more as "I totally get how hard it is to chose/balance things".
It's hard, but you never have a guarantee you'll get known and it likely wouldn't happen right away. But if you enjoy it, it doesn't matter who's watching at first. I for one would be super interested in nutrient info, especially when calorie amounts are added.
You're absolutely right! Once I figure out what I'm doing (whether it's a youtube channel or blog or what have you) I'll definitely be making a journal so you can check it out whenever it's available. :)
You could have both! Many people have a blog, since sometimes talking doesn't give enough info, with videos on the side. Some will have a video once a week, with blog otherwise. You could pick a favourite meal of the week and film how to make it maybe?
Speaking of nutrition, I'm trying to cut grains and sugar out of my diet. Few weeks back I weighed in at 241 and realized stuff needed to change. I've lost 6 lbs since then just by swearing off bread and popcorn.
Good for you!! I've done both paleo and keto (neither of which really allow for grains or sugar) and it really does make a monumental change to both your emotional state and your weight. Grains really tend to make me sluggish. HOWEVER I am such a huge carboholic that currently I've incorporated 'healthy' grains into my diet to try and find some kind of moderation and I'm still losing weight/feeling great. Hopefully I can work my way to really limiting my intake of them both. Hopefully you find it a little more sustainable! I know some people function better on fewer carbs than others.
Your best bet would just be tweaking paleo like you've done so that it's something more suitable for your lifestyle. When I did paleo I still ate legumes too and I still felt great so I don't think it's a biggie.
Do art while you're in school for nutrition, then once you've done that do nutrition with art on the side!
Maybe even do little doodles to help illustrate nutrition concepts and whatnot.
That's the nice thing about art, you can do it in your free time if you want :3
Thanks for the feedback!
Who told you that? Because they're wrong.
Shallow isn't always a bad thing though (although I feel the same way you do! I used to have such an imagination as a kid).
I've really come to terms with accepting 'shallow' art. I don't think it necessarily needs to have a deep meaning for me to enjoy it. There's so much pressure on it to be some kind deep-seated eye into our soul haha but really all that matters at the end of the day is that you enjoy it I guess!
But you might teach someone something they hadn't been taught that will change their lives!
"Embarrassed about furry art" I don't know how to respond to that. It's art, just a different kind of wine. Your art is beautiful and you shouldn't be embarrassed about it.
I Hope you will be happy with your life where ever it will get you
I'm unclear on the legalities of this in the US, but in a lot of countries "nutritionist" is an unregulated term, which means anyone can offer a "nutritionist qualification" or call themselves a "nutritionist" even if they have more or less zero understanding of actual human biology. This is probably why you see so much competition in that field - there is zero barrier to entry even for people who know absolutely nothing about nutrition.
In Ireland and the UK, a "dietitian" is the legally-protected term, and I suspect the situation may be similar in the US. If you want to get work in hospitals or alongside doctors, you will almost certainly need a real dietitian qualification from an accredited institution.
Seriously, use art as a means to helping you achieve the nutritional portion of your passion. Nothing ever has to be one or the other, the latter gives you benefits and better pay, while doing art as a hobby can provide supplemental income which can be saved for extraneous expenses.
There is a lot you can do in Nutrition, you don't necessarily need "new" ideas to be a nutritionist or do something else with that area of interest, people pay out the wahzoo to talk to someone face to face, help them plan their new childs diet, help them make better choices and etc.
But also keep in mind that I have never been one for "alternative" practices and it is because traditional medical research has a lot to offer as well, like vaccines for one example.
Just a little aside: "There have been several published scientific studies that dispute the efficacy, beyond the placebo effect, of (alternative) holistic medicine in treating any known disease. The American Cancer Society recommends that if holistic medicine is to be used at all, it should be used only in conjunction with conventional medicine and not as a replacement" But this is medicine, not necessarily nutrition.
Good nutrition is most effectively used as a preventative measure, but that being said it definitely does have its healing properties. It only makes sense that giving your body the proper fuel would allow it to run properly and enhance the healing process found naturally already in the body. I don't shun conventional medicine by any means but I do think proper nutrition goes a long way in treating most illnesses. Have a look into Gerson Therapy, it's pretty interesting.
I also did some research on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Gerson
Just to get an over view, and there are definitely problems with it, even before I read the bottom concerns, and not surprisingly those were all concerns that were coming to mind. Thank you Biology Degree.
[Yes being vegetarian can cause a lot of problem if one is not taking supplements to get all the needed minerals and vitamins. Also consider that there are proteins in meat that your body needs that it does not get from vegetables. It is not just protein amount, but the types of protein. Animals protein is not plant protein.]
In the end it is ultimately your choice, but I think there is the ability to do and achieve both.
Also, I and many would disagree that art doesn't change peoples' lives, even if it's just "furry art" or even nsfw art.
I don't know why people are embarrassed all the time about the things they're into. If you hadn't noticed, it doesn't matter what someone's professions or interests are, someone is going to shit on them. Everybody keeps stuff hidden in their closet.
People always act like "normal people" aren't into this kind of stuff. Spoiler alert: if you're into comics, video games, film, music, what have you, there are plenty of people out there who are into some pretty strange shit. I know some very popular individuals in those realms that are into not only furry art but some even more crazy stuff. Just because they don't actively talk about it doesn't mean they're not into it.
So don't be embarrassed.
I have nothing against furry art (obviously) and I respect the artists who do it, but personally I just don't feel like it represents me where I don't actually consider myself a furry. That being said I never intend to completely stop because I DO enjoy it and I love that people are supportive enough to commission me, but the time I have available if I take on a job in nutrition could be used to make some art that I feel might represent me a little better.
The nutritional way would be a good sort of "main job". I'm not sure what you do now for a job, but if this involves leaving that and going for the nutritionist, it'd probably be better to start getting some schooling first. That way you would see what it really involves and decide if this is something that you want to go full force with. It may be totally different once you get into it than what you expected. I would suggest talking to local nutritionists and getting some connections. People will go more for those who talk more "real" than a doctor who spews just what they want to hear.
As for art, you can always work on art. I think your list including that it doesn't help people is wrong, I've seen a billion times where art has truly helped someone. It's on an emotional level, which is just as if not more important than physical. If you decide to go on with the nutrition path, you don't have to stop your art. It's not a choice of "Okay, if I do this, I can no longer do that".
So my advice is try nutrition out, talk to some people and look around to see what it's like. If you really like what you see, then get into it and go for it. There's no reason to have to throw art out the window, so you can have both ;]
I don't really feel like my art is impactful where it's as shallow as it is. Primarily commission-work and otherwise depicting sensuality (which there is nothing wrong with, I just don't think it would be as inspiring as more personal/soulful work)
I really don't intend to STOP art all together... it's just if I were to pursue art I would be willing to put in multiple hours every day to studying, so with art being a secondary hobby I'd just have to resort to improving at a much slower pace. I've just got a hard time balancing passions as I'm very 'all or nothing'.
Thank you for the advice, I appreciate it! :) I emailed a couple nutritionists so hopefully their feedback is eyeopening.
I'd also recommend this short little book I found on amazon called "The Art of Being Unmistakable." It has a lot of good advice about following your passions. ^-^
Thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out!
This said, the amount you help people is up to you as an artist. Plenty of artists do things like tutorials and the like, or you could even host your own support site with tutorials and instructionals on art like http://www.drawing-tutorials-online.com/ and do videos on all sorts of things, from anatomy to furries and ferals in particular, etc. Obviously it's not the same sort of help as a nutritionist, but to say that you lack to ability to make a substantial positive impact would be remiss.
Obviously the biggest thing is the fact that you'd be freelancing and yes, you'd be providing for yourself. https://motivapp.com/freelance-hour.....ate-calculator Is a useful tool that helps you get a rough estimate of what you want to live like and how much you'd have to charge on an hourly basis (obviously this would be in the case of "well it takes me one hour to complete a sketch/colored piece/etc, so I need to charge this much, plus a little extra to cover times with fewer commissions, should those occur" (though that will be less of a point as your fanbase grows, though simultaneously it'll be important to think of the time you dedicate to supplementary income projects as work time.)) Be honest on it, you might actually be surprised with the projected income. I took 30 days off, a year, 14 sick days (even though I never get sick), overestimated on a lot of expenses (I don't spend 30 dollars a day) and even put in my rent/mortgage as a rough estimate as the mortgage I'd be paying on a 500,000 USD home on -top- of the 15,000 I'd be pocketing in profit a year and still came out with less than 50 an hour and these are assuming that I have a 500k house that I'm not renting rooms in, or that I'm single (to which you can estimate how much you'd need to make with a partner (or roommates) by cutting rent/mortgage in half and doubling your daily expenses for food (even though this isn't accurate, because it's assuming your partner/roommate only makes enough to cover half of rent, alone) and you'll see that number drop down further.
Supplementary income is huge for freelancers, which is why it's very valuable to produce something you can sell, whether it's prints of exotic animals, character templates like waitress, brush packs like onta, or bookmarks or whathaveyou.
To see an example of why this is important, use the calculator I linked above and subtract 500 from rent alone and let's assume it's just supplementary revenue coming in. This can be in the form of things to sell (a plus), or this can even be in the form of a patreon, which I still wholeheartedly urge you to try out, if only to see just how many people would pay to see what you do on the side or tutorials or even a personal project like a comic or maybe even something else you could sell, like Vagabondbastard does. Being funded by other people to literally make something else to make money off of. Etc.
Now, as always, I think you should do what makes you happy (and draw pictures for me), but I don't now much about being a nutritionist, in particular. I do know that the more I've examined it, getting into art can be hard at first, for sure, but I think it gets easier as you continue on in the field and your name grows. It's not like you only have to draw furries, too. Look at Doxy/Onta, for example.
Anyway, I got distracted: I'm not trying to push art on you, despite the paragraphs talking about how feasible it is. It's not easy. Art is very competitive, same as anything else. But it's what I'm more familiar about rather than the pros and cons of being a nutritionist.
Additionally, you probably will need to be more outgoing (at least in marketing yourself and possibly attending a con or two) to be successful as an artist, as well, just to add to your list of cons, there. :P
-Hope this helps
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