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Thoughts on the whole EF thing.
10 years ago
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I wanted to wait to post this to see how it shook out.
So now that about a day has passed, I want to put my thoughts down, Take them as they are, my thoughts.
The Issue:
So there are two different things that are going on here.
The first is that EF has a policy that includes no babyfur badges, and no items such as pacifiers in public con space.
Personally I think this is dumb, as people have pointed out there are pictures of people literally humping pool toys in public. But as others have said, this is their con, and these are their rules, and as dumb as they are, they are entitled to have them.
People complaining about the first issue led into the second, much more damning issue.
There are two prominent staff members, including the con chair himself, who have been not only badmouthing babyfurs as a whole and spreading false information- and this included using the OFFICIAL EF TWITTER to do so, but they also insulted specific people. One went as far as to tell a person to "put a diaper on his head and choke himself to death".
Now, the more vitriolic posts were made on personal Twitters, but both have in tier info that they are staff of EF, and some posts spoke as if this was the will of the con, not just their personal feelings.
And what is worse, is that the official EF Twitter said that they were going to release a statement about it. It has been 24 hours. The two CONTINUE to spew venom and vitriol and EF has said nothing.
The Reaction:
People have been understandably upset, but unfortunately as furries are wont to do, people went exactly the WRONG way doing it and just made things worse. By calling people "Nazis" that just makes people hate babyfurs more, It was about the worst thing that people could have done.. And they did it.
Some people are voting with their wallets, and I commend them for it. People who are saying that they will no longer attend EF because of this.
Will it kill the con? OF COURSE NOT. But if they see that there is a consequence to their actions, hopefully that will get the point across better than insulting people online will
The Future:
So, what will happen? Furries will find something else to bitch about and it will be forgotten, which is a dam shame, because that means the two staff members who are spewing all the hate will continue to do so and there will be no repercussions for them.
Where so I stand in all of this?
I admit that I was sucked into the argument online. Hell, I even got blocked by someone because I dared to have a difference of opinion.
I called out the people who were spewing the hatred, of course that did no good.
I am rather saddened though that babyfurs actually turned against their own on this and some actually defended the policies and the people spewing the hate.
I don't and can never understand this.
So... yeah, that is my more than 2 cents on this whole thing.
I welcome and encourage conversation about this, but all I ask is that you PLEASE keep it civil, no matter what your thoughts are on the matter.
Thank you.
So now that about a day has passed, I want to put my thoughts down, Take them as they are, my thoughts.
The Issue:
So there are two different things that are going on here.
The first is that EF has a policy that includes no babyfur badges, and no items such as pacifiers in public con space.
Personally I think this is dumb, as people have pointed out there are pictures of people literally humping pool toys in public. But as others have said, this is their con, and these are their rules, and as dumb as they are, they are entitled to have them.
People complaining about the first issue led into the second, much more damning issue.
There are two prominent staff members, including the con chair himself, who have been not only badmouthing babyfurs as a whole and spreading false information- and this included using the OFFICIAL EF TWITTER to do so, but they also insulted specific people. One went as far as to tell a person to "put a diaper on his head and choke himself to death".
Now, the more vitriolic posts were made on personal Twitters, but both have in tier info that they are staff of EF, and some posts spoke as if this was the will of the con, not just their personal feelings.
And what is worse, is that the official EF Twitter said that they were going to release a statement about it. It has been 24 hours. The two CONTINUE to spew venom and vitriol and EF has said nothing.
The Reaction:
People have been understandably upset, but unfortunately as furries are wont to do, people went exactly the WRONG way doing it and just made things worse. By calling people "Nazis" that just makes people hate babyfurs more, It was about the worst thing that people could have done.. And they did it.
Some people are voting with their wallets, and I commend them for it. People who are saying that they will no longer attend EF because of this.
Will it kill the con? OF COURSE NOT. But if they see that there is a consequence to their actions, hopefully that will get the point across better than insulting people online will
The Future:
So, what will happen? Furries will find something else to bitch about and it will be forgotten, which is a dam shame, because that means the two staff members who are spewing all the hate will continue to do so and there will be no repercussions for them.
Where so I stand in all of this?
I admit that I was sucked into the argument online. Hell, I even got blocked by someone because I dared to have a difference of opinion.
I called out the people who were spewing the hatred, of course that did no good.
I am rather saddened though that babyfurs actually turned against their own on this and some actually defended the policies and the people spewing the hate.
I don't and can never understand this.
So... yeah, that is my more than 2 cents on this whole thing.
I welcome and encourage conversation about this, but all I ask is that you PLEASE keep it civil, no matter what your thoughts are on the matter.
Thank you.
I am AB but not babyfur, but yeah-- I'd agree with you that pool toy humping is worse than wearing a babyfur badge, especially since most cons allow children to attend. EF might be the exception, and frankly I'm too tired to research or continue my point.
Good night.
Honestly if that's the way they want to run their con, if that's the policies they want to make, so be it- so they alienate a section of their attendees- maybe it will come back to bite them, maybe it won't. It's really not going to help anything over there by creating waves and flocking to a banner over here that realy isn't our fight.
It's sad, it's unfortunate, but that's the way it is-
The whole thing's just really stupid drama and it's a shame to see that one of the supposedly finest conventions is shooting themselves in the foot like this.